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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:18 AM
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Settle a disagreement
I have a friend, Jay, whom I've known for 3 years. Over that time, we have been just friends.

Lately, Jay has been taking me out, buying dinners and drinks and not letting me pay for anything. He even came to my house and brought lobsters and steamers.

Is Jay getting sweet on me? I told him last weekend, "If you keep being so good to me, I'm going to think you're getting sweet on me." His response was "you never know."

I asked a mutual friend of ours what she thought and she said that I'm not the same person I was a year ago (which I think is true both physically and emotionally--I'm a much happier person these days), and that she thought for sure that Jay was interested in being more than friends.

My kids say that Jay is interested.

But people don't feel that way about me. They never have. Jay was seeing a woman and that didn't work out. He's just spending time w/ me so that he won't be lonely... right?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:20 AM
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1. I don't know
from the information provided it sounds like he liiiiikeeesss you!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:20 AM
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2. Ummmm
Hello????????

LOL, don't be so hard on yourself. Jay is diggin' on you and you may as well accept it.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:20 AM
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3. Unannounced lobster and steamers = romance
at least in New England it does.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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7. Not in Cleveland, though.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:40 AM
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30. SNARF!!!
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ahem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:20 AM
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4. Duh!
He's sweet on you. :)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:20 AM
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5. You must need a new pair of glasses
sounds like an opportunity
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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6. Quit selling yourself so short.
Just ask him and go on from there.:hi:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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8. stock up on condoms
and enjoy

:evilgrin:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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9. He likes you.
You know, like he likes likes you.
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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Men don't spend money on women...
unless they are interested in more than 'just friends'. That is the undying, unwritten law of male/female relationships. He is DEFINITELY interested. The real question is -- are you interested in HIM?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:27 AM
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22. oh no no
Thats not necessarily true. A friend of mine will pick up my tab if I'm low on cash, and I KNOW he is not interested in me. Trust me, I'm so not his type, and he's madly in love with his girlfriend.
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:29 AM
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25. OK I should have qualified that...
If there is no reason for him to be spending the money (like knowing you are low on cash), and he does it on a regular basis, then yes, it means he is interested.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:30 AM
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26. Thats better
:P
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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10. Yes. He is sweet on you.
Very much so.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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11. MissMillia, congratulations, you hae a suitor! I'd say "gentleman caller"
but that's a bit racy. As a guy, let me give you a 99.9% assurance that he is interested in you. Since we all know women decide who we're with, get busy evaluating the guy: yes/no; hire/fire; amusement/something more.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:25 AM
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19. 99.9%?
No way I would do all that for "just a friend"

Just a friend: alternate paying dinner & drinks
just a friend: order pizza

Something more: always pay
something more: well, I wouldn't do lobster, but that's just because I'm allergic.

Is he playing Barry White CDs in the background too?
:D
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:26 AM
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20. no barry white
but he did burn a bunch of CDs for me of music that I had mentioned I would like to own.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:28 AM
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24. Oh he's so into you
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:31 AM
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49. Oh yeah he is into you .
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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12. I think he's
sweet on you :)


:hug:

And why shouldn't he be?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:21 AM
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13. he soooo wants you
onLy question is... do you want him?
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:22 AM
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14. Hmmm...
I think he might we sweet on you?:loveya:
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:23 AM
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15. This is courtship behavior
Pretty much the same as when male Crows bring shiny things to females. He likes you down to his brain stem.........
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:23 AM
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17. *g* Agreed
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:27 AM
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21. Cardinals feed their sweeties too :)
It's fun to watch at the bird feeder!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:23 AM
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16. Based on what you said.....
"Millie and Jay sittin' in a tree.....K-i-s-s-i-n-g...etc" (giggles)

I think he likes ya. How do you feel about him?
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:24 AM
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18. If he said 'you never know'...
it means HE knows. Otherwise, he would have brushed it off and said something to make sure you knew you were just friends.

He's sweet on ya! :)
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:27 AM
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23. People may not feel that way about you, but Jay sure does
:-) He sounds like a great guy.

But are you interested?
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:31 AM
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27. Am I interested? I don't know how to feel
He's a sweet guy. Other than the fact that he voted for *, I think he's warm and funny and intelligent and thoughtful. Could I stand being around a guy like that? Sure.

But I'm TERRIFIED. I am a LOUSY judge of people, so while I'm sitting here saying what a nice guy he is, there's a part of me that says, "There has to be something seriously wrong with him" because when it comes to picking men, I always pick the bad ones.

There's a reason why I'm still single at 40.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:39 AM
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29. So just do the dating thing for awhile
Don't get serious or anything. If you can help it, it's easier said then done, of course.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:42 AM
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31. What do your friends think of him? Has your family met him?
A good girlfriend won't let you get involved with a guy she thinks is scum.

I personally couldn't date someone who voted for bushy though- I like my men mean, lean, and liberal :D
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:43 AM
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32. My kids have met him,
and they seem to like him well enough. They didn't spend a lot of time together.

All of my girlfriends are out of town, so they haven't had an opportunity to meet.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:54 AM
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44. MM
the dating quandary.

males get scared, too. LOTS of people miss great oportunities solely because the male doesn't have the confidence to state his case, and the female waits for him to make a move.

think it over carefully, decide whether you have feelings for him, and if you do, open the door. in this case it sounds like a sure thing, IMO, but if you want a relationship, assume some of the risk yourself and help the guy out.



then, PLEASE, work on his politix!!!! :evilgrin:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:37 AM
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28. In the caveman cartoons, they always depicted a man clobbering
a woman with a club and dragging her off by the hair. This is almost as obvious.
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:44 AM
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33. IMO he could just really enjoy your company
i have a girl friend who is like that. we spend lots of time together, talk on the phone several times a day and she comes over every Friday to watch me cook for the family and drink beer. My husband thinks she's sweet on me (i would be flattered if so) but i tell him were just very close. who knows......
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:50 AM
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34. Wrong
Edited on Fri May-06-05 09:53 AM by EstimatedProphet
If you look at things from the perspective of "people don't feel that way about me. They never have" then you'll never see when they are truly interested. Don't be surprised if he makes more of a move, if you let him.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:59 AM
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35. That's my insulation
It's the wall I put up so that I don't have to risk being hurt.... again.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:19 AM
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38. Believe me, I know that trick well
Edited on Fri May-06-05 10:20 AM by EstimatedProphet
I've used it most of my life. All I can say is, it feels really good not to anymore. If I hadn't dropped my guard i never would have been able to get along with the Prophetess, and I am convinced she is my match. So much so, everyone calls us bookends.
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love, and be loved in return" Moulin Rouge
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:09 AM
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36. I definitely think he's interested
You're so sweet, and look at all the changes you've made in your life recently. That type of hard work doesn't go unnoticed, believe me. I say go for it - he's a lucky guy! :hug:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:15 AM
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37. You're too kind
what a nice thing to say. Thank you!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:20 AM
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39. BIG FLASHING LIGHT, BELLS, SIRENS AND HORNS GOING OFF!!
Yes, he is definetely "sweet" on you. If it were going to be any more obvious, an anvil would have to fall on your head. It seems like Jay, the friend, has watched your mental, physical and spiritual changes over the past year, likes the changes, and wants to become more than just friends. Now then, the ball is in your court. Do you wish to encourage him or not?

And please, please, don't sell yourself short. I know, I know, you've got tons of excuses as to why you think you're unworthy, but they're all so much BS. It seems that you are a wonderful person, and I'm not just judging from your posting here, though that is part of it. It also seems that your friends think that you are a wonderful person, and that Jay thinks likewise. You can poo-poo this all you want, but if Jay is half the man you say he is, he is going to see through all of the smokescreens and BS you try to put up, and love you for you. And yes, I've had to deal with this esteem problem with my wife, and her BS didn't work on me:evilgrin:

So again, the ball is in your court. It sounds like Jay is a nice guy, and is interested in you. If you're interested in him being other than friends, than indicate that to him. If you want to go slow, and I can't blame you, I'm sure he'll understand and will do so. But please, please, don't run away from this opportunity just because you don't think you "deserve" it. You indeed are worthy of of love and companionship, and Jay thinks so to.

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:24 AM
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40. self-esteem issues? me??? I'm a bad-ass
Edited on Fri May-06-05 10:25 AM by MissMillie
I'm just lousy at picking men.

(On edit: I'm kidding of course. I do have some self-esteem issues, but I am getting better. Healing is a long process.)
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:38 AM
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42. Yes, you are a bad ass
And that is one of the things Jay likes about you, HAH! He also probably thinks that you are warm, funny, intelligent, cute, etc. etc., even though you don't think you are. And you know what, HE'S RIGHT! You know why he's right? Because his viewpoint is much more objective than yours! HAH AGAIN!

If you can't tell, I've been through these discussions before, etc. etc.:evilgrin: I see below where he wants to go out with you this weekend. Do it, and if you're comfortable, go for it. Life is too short to let things pass by just because you doubt yourself. Go out and have a great time!
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:32 AM
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41. UPDATE: Guess who just called....
Jay wants to go out tonight for dinner and drinks. We have a mutual friend who tends bar, so we'll go and visit w/ her.

He also wants to take me to Foxwoods when I'm on vacation at the end of next week.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:50 AM
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43. I really can't add too much to all the very wise and observant
things everyone has said here today; but let me emphasize: YES he's sweet on you! And I was saying that to myself before I even finished reading your paragraphs.
Go for it! Go at a pace that you find comfortable...He's already waited and watched for a year, my dear. That means he has the long view in mind. My husband was the same way when we were courting/dating. He didn't push me. And now we're married almost 40 years.

AND BTW: CONGRATULATIONS!

:toast:
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TheProphetess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:03 AM
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45. If he were just lonely, he could hang out with the guys
Don't sell yourself short - sometimes the most obvious thing in the world is something we are afraid to see, so we close our eyes to it.

I used to think that no one was ever interested in me, but then I met the Prophet. And as I thought about past experiences with other men, I realized that they might have been giving me the signals that I just wouldn't (couldn't?) pick up on.

Open yourself up to the possibility and see where it takes you. Good luck! :toast:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:11 AM
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46. I'm the densest guy in the world, but even I can tell this fella's
making an honest effort to win your heart.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:25 AM
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47. Thank you all for your input
You've given me quite a bit to think about. I'm going to put the thoughts aside for today though and just enjoy this evening. I guess if he tries to kiss me, I'll know... right?
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:29 AM
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48. Heck Miss Millie!
Don't wait for him to kiss you... if you feel like kissing the guy, GO FOR IT! This is the 21st century you know... ;)

Bella, who never turns down free food and kisses whoever she damn well pleases ;)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:43 AM
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50. he wants you like Antony wanted Cleopatra
He has the hots for you

He isn't interested; he's obsessed.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:23 PM
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54. that might just scare me off
I don't know if I can handle "obsessed".
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:23 PM
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55. passion, lust, desire . . .
Get after it!
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:30 PM
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56. Jeez....
we haven't even held hands yet!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:45 PM
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57. for heaven's sake, quit stalling ad get started
hold hands, talk, flirt . . .

he clearly is interested in you. Are you interested in him?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:59 AM
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51. Off topic or slightly off topic: This has more to do with you than Jay
You just lost a bunch of weight and you do not see yourself as Jay does.

He likes you...
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:22 PM
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53. These days I just see myself
as a work in progress.

What I see now that I didn't see 85 lbs. ago is that I am capable of much more than I ever could have believed.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:12 PM
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52. The writing is on the wall, MissMillie.
Jay is definitely sweet on you.
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