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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:36 AM
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"We can't ignore that our nation is based on Christianity — not science."
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:38 AM by NewHampshireDem
--Kathy Martin, member of the Kansas state board of education, retired science and elementary school teacher

:banghead: :wtf:

Don't like science? Well, just change the rules ... "The other proposes that Kansas alter the definition of science, not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-evolution6may06,1,7929126.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack=1&cset=true

Too many hicks falling off ladders and roofs while drunk? Well, how about outlawing gravity?

We now return you to our regularly scheduled march toward theocracy.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:39 AM
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1. This is a retired science teacher??
What in the world did she teach those poor students before she retired??
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:10 AM
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7. Let us hope she was 'forcefully retired'...
:D
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:41 AM
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2. Try to keep up Kansas...
It's called ev·o·lu·tion. Say it with me: ev·o·lu·tion. Good. Now you can watch a movie about ev·o·lu·tion here: http://www.becominghuman.org/
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:47 AM
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3. Kos sez:
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:47 AM by NewHampshireDem
"My problem with this debate is that this isn't about being pro-religion or anti-religion or faith-neutral; it's about institutionalizing stupidity as a valid lifestyle choice."

:rofl:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/5/6/19916/89062
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:53 AM
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4. Someone should send her the article about the
Founding Fathers being Deists. Of course, she's not going to listen to it. These people have had their heads up their asses for way too long.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:59 AM
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5. It might be interesting
to draw up a list of countries/states that do not teach evolution.

Then rank them by economic prosperity.

(I'm guessing that Afghanistan under the Taliban would have been on the list).
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:07 AM
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6. Wow.
I'm beginning to truly believe that people will never accept the idea that Christianity was not a central tenet of our establishment. Ugh.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:10 AM
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8. Change the DEFINITION OF SCIENCE?
WTF is going ON in this country??
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:32 AM
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9. I often wonder why civilizations much older than ours,
had a much closer relation to science.

I suppose that the tenet, "Seek, and ye shall find", doesn't count for much w/the pick and choose theology crowd. It is an embarrassment that these people would be more than happy to send the US back 1000 years and allow the rest of the world to march happily forward, learning and using the knowledge gained.

Strange how Socrates thought some forms of life were spontaneous, ie, maggots on rotting meat. If he would have had a microscope, he would have seen eggs planted by flies...one small instrument, and 300 years of thinking would have been dashed on the rocks of scientific reality.

In any case, the loss of reality of these people is incredible. Dinosaurs died in the Great Flood; the universe was created in 6, 4 hour days, (just where did these 24 hour days come from? There was no sun or earth until the 3rd day in Genesis; where did these 'days' come from?

One of my favorite notions is that Adam and Eve had Caine and Abel; Caine kills Abel...why are we here...end of bloodline before it even really got started. And why was Caine told to 'go marry and build cities'...marry whom build cities for what? Was the building of cities just a way to keep him occupied until he died? There was no one to live in them, the original Ghost Towns.

My point is, the Bible is like any other book, it has to be looked at as a guide, not an absolute. And there needs to be an emphasis on the POSITIVE aspects of all religious teachings. What happened to forgiveness, justice, love, compassion, empathy, caring for those less fortunate? All religions teach these things; but for some horrid reason, many religious leaders are hell bent on the negatives...pain, suffering, expansion of ignorance and intolerance.......alas, I am discouraged to say the least.

Beware of zealots, regardless of their stripe...evil resides in intolerance.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:37 AM
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10. According to the Bible, Adam & Eve Had Three Sons
Cain, Abel, and Seth (born after Cain killed Abel).

Who did they marry???

(Yet another reason I no longer believe anything in the Bible.)
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:01 AM
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11. So how exactly
do the inerrant-word-of-gawd folks answer that question? They seem to have an answer for everything.
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