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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:50 PM
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I've been warned to keep my mouth shut or be fired.....
....overheard a conversation goin' on between co-workers...one a city cop who works security...and a fundie...about how they're sick of people on welfare takin' all their money...I turned around and said...what about people on welfare?...it's not the poor livin' it up on the south side o'town in the projects that're rippin' you off..it's corporate welfare..the *war* and the rich who are....I was told I had a right to my opinion...and I said yeah everybody does have a right to their opinion but not their own facts and the fact remains that the poor aren't to blame...the rich are....sooooo...I'm off today and just got home awhile ago and there are 5 messages on my anwering machine from the temp agency I work for...I called and was told that I'm doing a good job but I need to keep my views to myself...that my supervisor had gotten complaints and if I wanted to keep my job....don't discuss my views anymore...just sit there and shut the fuck up...stick my head up the corporate ass and remain silent or we'll take away your part time temp $8 an hour job or you can just go live in a ditch somewhere for telling the goddamn TRUTH...i hate this fucked up ass backwards world. :evilfrown:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:52 PM
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1. damn, that sucks....
Rat bastards. :grouphug:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:58 PM
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3. Thanks...barely able to eek out an existence.....
....this company is pullin' out of our town after being one of the biggest employers in our area for 40 years...but I took what I could get...gotta pay rent and buy goddamn gas..feed my cats...on 27 hours a week..guess now I can forget about trying to apply for a permanent position elsewhere within the company which I had planned to do before today. :( :hug:
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:55 PM
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2. The job is temporary...
but your integrity is forever. Kudos to you for sticking up for your beliefs, whatever the consequences. MOst people don't have that kind of courage...
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:05 PM
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5. Thank you...just voted for taxes for that damn cops job too....
....not as sick about 'em not passing now...only roughly 15K people turned out to vote parish wide...which is about 155K population... the majority say fuck the cops and fire department and the juvenille detention center...we're not payin' more property taxes for any reason...the Chamber of Commerce opposed the continuation of these taxes...not NEW ones just some that've been on the books for a decade or so...sigh. :nopity: :hi:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:00 PM
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4. That's the worst! Jobs Fascism is slavery.
They want us to believe that there isn't enough to go around for everyone, so there has to be the Poor.

It's a lie. There is enough for everyone, enough of everything for everyone, if some people weren't so greedy and power/control hungry!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:10 PM
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6. Yeah the fundie is losing her job when the company leaves in a couple...
...months...and the cop will lose that extra time too...explained above about votin' for taxes so the cop wouldn't lose his job...but they complained to my superior so I could lose my temp job faster than they'd lose theirs...warped. x(
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:12 PM
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7. You're temping, so...
that puts you in the barrel while you're there, but I hear ya.

It never ceases to amaze me that WE have to keep our opinions to ourselves while others don't.

Seems anyone can rant off with boilerplate Rushisms and everyone just nods or looks away, but one lousy leftie comment and you're a pariah.

The mind boggles. And gets really pissed off sometimes.





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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:32 PM
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8. Ignorance makes me extremely offensive......
....I just couldn't stand to hear what they were saying...they're both losing their jobs and living in FEAR of having their jobs taken out of state by this company...yet blaming the poor for it all instead of who's really to blame for THEM having to go on unemployment themselves here in a couple months....this company has been here for 40 years and leaving this town high and dry...a continuation of property taxes for the cops and fire department just failed because the Chamber of Commerce opposed it..and I have to hear two people yuk it up about people on welfare taking their money..my loathing will be extremely difficult to suppress when I have to go back there now...won't be making an attempt to get that permanet position out of town with the company i had my eye on now. :eyes:
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:42 PM
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11. Well, look at it this way...
it sucks big time that these two have that attitude, but they are history after all, aren't they?

What about the rest of the company? OK, they suck too for leaving, but you had thought about leaving with them. Has anything else changed? How about TPTB in the company or your supervisors there? Have you gotten this terrible uppity liberal reputation throughout the company, or could you still apply and the managment and HR people who count maybe OK it because you can do the job?

All is not lost simply because you pissed off a few people who bothered to complain. You never know, the complainers may be on other shitlists.

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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:51 PM
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14. Nahh...my superior is the HR supervisor...a minority and fundie to boot...
Edited on Tue May-10-05 09:52 PM by jus_the_facts
....she understands my reasoning with my views and didn't let me go over this incident...but instead of talking to me about it she called and asked the temp agency to tell me this little news instead of having to deal with it herself....so I think I know where I stand and it's not going to be with the insanity and ignorance there...I'll suffer somewhere else instead of suckin' off this particular corporate tit much longer....it'll be the same no matter where I end up anyway...sigh.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:34 PM
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9. A cop moonlighting as security?
Is that kosher? I'd bet not.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:38 PM
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10. Yeah this is one of the hugest insurance companies in the US....
..city and parish police make sure the people they screw over don't come in there gunnin' everybody down...I'd be the first to go as I'm the corporate operations front lobby receptionist. :nopity:
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:51 PM
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13. And as the wealthy pull the noose tighter, and tighter, the fundies
say, "please sir, I want more."
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:08 PM
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18. amazing isn't it....
....I'm offensive for defending the poor and downtrodden..oh the humanity. :nopity:
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:28 PM
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24. Quite a few of them do it
They get paid VERY well for it. Most school police, university police, and police at special events are full-time in some other PD, but are getting paid for wearing their uniform somewhere else part-time. The security guards at Michael Jackson's ranch? Most of them are off-duty police officers making some extra cash.

I know of a fwe cops in my town that work with casinos during their off-hours -- they have the same legal authority/responsility off-duty as on, and are thus far more preferable to regular security guards.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:47 PM
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12. Tell your agency to place you somewhere else...
Ridiculous that you would have to keep your mouth shut because you have to worry for your job, when everyone else can speak their mind. The beauty of temp agencies... the customer can always send you packing, no explanation given. It sure is a fucked up ass backwards world.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:03 PM
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15. This agency doesn't get many clerical positionsl.......
..they deal mainly with industrial labor...all they'd been able to find me was one cashier position for a college bookstore...and this position...there've been a lot of calls coming through from a couple places who are offering people at this insurance company I'm temping for though as they're laying off and relocating people...so I'm going to apply for the ones I'm hearing about too.....I'm in a good position to hear first what jobs are being offered around here as a result...it sux but gotta suffer there for a little while longer...my loathing will be harsh...but gotta exist and survive in the mean time.

:hi: :hug:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:18 PM
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21. understood...
a terrible position to be in, but you've gotta survive... :hug:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:04 PM
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16. I'd tell the agency that you'd like to be transferred.
I'd also let them know that others were pushing their views on you and simply stated your opinion back. Also say that you walked away from the conversation without any anomosity and this compalint comes as a surprise and a bit offensive. Stick up for yourself in a strong and mature way.

I'd also be on the look out for other temp agencies in case this one can't handle being grown ups about the situation. :)
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:24 PM
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23. the understanding is....never EVER talk religion or politics....
....even if baited to do so....nobody wants to hear any liberal claptrap..so shut it missy!! I went with this agency because of being ostricised by another one for my big mouth in the past...a pattern I can't seem to break...doesn't PAY to be a commie librul around here.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:06 PM
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17. Look, if you feel so strongly you can write letters to the editor of
your local paper. That way you get your point across, to many more people than the two assholes you'de be talking to in the office... And you don't get in trouble. Makes sense?
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:15 PM
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19. I've gotten freakish phone calls and letters telling me I'm a demon....
....after writing letters to the editor back in the 90's when I defended the Clintons against Falwell...this is the pit of fundie hell...can't say a word around here period...without having to put up with maniacs...I didn't work for a long time after the last temp place I worked for wouldn't send me anywhere else because their receptionist had said some stuff she and I'd been discussing after I left...she ended up quiting after the repuke manager pissed her off over it and they never sent me on another job...I've burned bridges all over this horrid town for having too big a mouth it seems.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:17 PM
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20. Hmmm.... Any chance you can move?...
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:35 PM
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26. Nope..takes money for that..I work 27hrs a week at 8 an hour.....
..and lucky to have this job at all...just left a relationship after 14 years of which I didn't work for 10 of those..starting over and stuck...plus my dad's been sick..getting a bone marrow transplant at present...want to be near in case of the worst happening with him and my mom....and on and on...just not feasible on any level right now.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:21 PM
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22. I swear to jebus on a half shell
Soulless pods run the fucking world. It's a tough row to hoe being smart and AWAKE in this wide world.

I wish you could escape that fuckpit!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:29 PM
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25. THANK YOU....so do I but alas...
...here I'll probably suffer til my demise...which could be soon as that idiot cop was grittin' his goddamn teeth at me after I said that to him...heh..make my day muther fucker! :evilgrin:
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:40 PM
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27. Move north.
I know we don't have any culcher here, but we are a more mixed bag. I'll tell you a little secret, if you promise not to tell anyone. Most of Detroit is a safe blue collar neighborhood. Wonderful people.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:53 AM
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28. Yeah...the south sucks in so many ways......
....but Louisiana is all I've ever known...besides it's dog eat dog all over...and gonna get worse...my bleeding heart will continue to be broken regardless of state or country in the years to come...sigh. x(
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:55 AM
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29. GRRRRRR
Edited on Wed May-11-05 06:55 AM by GOPBasher
:grr: :evilfrown:

But those guys can talk about there views, right?

:grr: :banghead:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:04 AM
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30. Of course they can...they're RIGHT and everybody else can suck on it......
.....no commie librul N-lovin' bitch shouldn't be allowed to live in these parts....the knife in my back hurts like literal HELL today...glad I don't have to go back there for another 24 hours...sigh. :nopity:
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:10 AM
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31. Screw Them
You Just Keep On Telling Them How It Is. I Doubt They'll Do Anything At All. If They Call To Have You Replaced, It's A Temp Job Anyway. Theres More Out There I'm Sure

More Power To Ya !
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:19 AM
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32. Thanks...sadly there aren't that many more around here......
.....between this insurance company which is leaving and taking over a thousand jobs with them and layin' off another thousand....the pickin's are mighty slim in these parts....and with my inability to not be able to keep my mouth shut I was blackballed by the biggest temp agency in this town too...doesn't pay to be a vocal librul...eventhough these people are seeing first hand how the rich and powerful are screwin' 'em...they blame the poor...infuckin'sanity I tell ya! x(
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