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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:48 PM
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Court rules woman isn't liable for injuring boyfriend during sex
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/05/16/court_rules_woman_isnt_liable_for_injuring_boyfriend_during_sex/

Court rules woman isn't liable for injuring boyfriend during sex
By Michael Kunzelman, Associated Press Writer | May 16, 2005

BOSTON --A woman isn't legally responsible for injuries her boyfriend suffered while they were having consensual sex more than a decade ago, a state appeals court ruled Monday. The man, identified only as John Doe in court papers, filed suit against the woman in 1997, claiming she was negligent when she suddenly changed positions, landed awkwardly on him and fractured his penis. The man underwent emergency surgery in September 1994, "endured a painful and lengthy recovery" and has suffered from sexual dysfunction that hasn't responded to medication or counseling, the appeals court said.

Although the woman may have exposed her boyfriend to "some risk of harm," the three-judge panel said her conduct during the sexual encounter wasn't "wanton or reckless" and can't support a lawsuit. The man's lawsuit already has been thrown out by judges in Salem District Court and Essex Superior Court. The appeals court upheld those rulings while noting that its ruling doesn't apply to cases where someone has negligently infected a partner with a sexually transmitted disease.

"There are no comprehensive legal rules to regulate consensual sexual behavior," Justice Joseph Trainor wrote. "In the absence of a consensus of community values or customs defining normal consensual conduct, a jury or judge cannot be expected to resolve a claim that certain consensual sexual conduct is undertaken without reasonable care."

The man's attorney, John Greenwood, said he is likely to appeal Monday's ruling to the state's highest court. "It's a case that hasn't been seen before in Massachusetts," he said. Greenwood argued that consensual sex doesn't mean "anything goes. ... The fact that some behavior was agreed to by the parties doesn't mean all behavior was agreed to by the parties."

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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:50 PM
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1. Boston eh?
It's that damn Boston Clique... yet again! :P
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:57 PM
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7. OMG---this is the hysterical---poor "John Doe" ----OUCH!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:58 PM
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9. I'm not a member of the clique.....yet
Edited on Mon May-16-05 09:58 PM by paineinthearse
But I have invited all to a meet-up or three.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:50 PM
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2. "fractured his penis"
Edited on Mon May-16-05 09:52 PM by undeterred
Was this at a DU meetup? :shrug:
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:51 PM
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3. would that hurt? nt
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:53 PM
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5. You tell me.
:blush:
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:55 PM
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6. oops sorry I assumed you were male
my mistake. sorry
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:26 PM
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18. It can.
There's not always dramatic pain, but it looks pretty impressive. I've only seen it once in my career in one of those professions people seek out when they do this to themselves (no, not a trial lawyer).

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:31 PM
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24. ER doctor or vascular surgeon?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:49 PM
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40. You're a pipefitter?
:)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:52 PM
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4. A penis has no bones, despite the colloquial vernacular "boner".
Just some lovely spongy vessels that get flooded when Mr. Happy becomes expecting. :D
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:57 PM
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8. Now that this has come out -
The girl's going to have to have any potential intimate aquaintances sign a waiver!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:01 PM
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10. How the hell do you fracture a penis?
And I figure, hey, if you're gonna put it in someone else's body, you've given up your possession (so to speak) of it. If they move and take your penis with that movement, then, well, that's part of the risk of putting part of your body into someone else's.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:15 PM
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14. Uh, it does happen. It's not really a fracture in the sense
Edited on Mon May-16-05 10:16 PM by Redstone
of breaking your leg; it's more like a set of torn muscles.

Happened to a business associate of mine back in the late 1980s, and, believe me, you do NOT want to hear the details of the surgical process for doing a repair.

I didn't want to hear it either, but we were drinking, so I couldn't stop him telling me...Oh GOD DAMN, I'm getting phantom pains just remembering the conversation with that guy...

Redstone
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:18 PM
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15. torn muscles - I hadn't thought of it, but yeah, I can see it happening
and I bet it IS painful as hell.

Ouch!

"Hey, Jimbo, I threw out my shoulder!"

"Yeah, well, I threw out my penis!"
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:28 PM
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19. AND HERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PENISES AGAIN!
:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:30 PM
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22. Dork!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:31 PM
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23. Weiner!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:32 PM
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25. Flatulent peter!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:33 PM
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26. Maid O' the Meter!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:35 PM
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29. Crimson-headed soldier of love!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:36 PM
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30. Did you mess up the rhyme on purpose?
Harumph.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:39 PM
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31. No, quite by accident. Roseheaded heater!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:39 PM
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33. UNCLE!
I have one, actually, but it would get this thread deleted. So I can't use it. Sorry! It rhymes, too. Oh well.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:40 PM
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34. Oh, go ahead and say it
or PM it.

:-)
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:41 PM
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35. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Kitty eater!

There I said it!

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:46 PM
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37. ROTFL!
That's wonderful!!

And not at all offensive.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:46 PM
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38. Well, not THAT way.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:49 PM
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39. Check your PM.
It's not about this topic.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:32 PM
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48. What kind of therapy
would one need for this?????? LOL
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:10 PM
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11. WTF? IT can BREAK??? Who knew? Shouldn't there be a warning label
or something? This is serious business. I had no idea.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:14 PM
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13. Yeah, but you only have to worry about pregnancy if the condom breaks
too, so its really not such a big deal. Nothing to whine about...
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:12 PM
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12. Let's invite the lawyers into....
American Bedrooms.:banghead:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:18 PM
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16. I know a girl who did this to her ex boyfriend and unfortunately, he
could never get a full erection ever again.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:24 PM
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17. "EX Boyfriend" you say..... hmmmn I wonder why? Perhaps the old rule of
you broke , you bought should apply since that poor sob is never gonna hook up again.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:29 PM
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20. No way! It's broken now! She had to get a new one!
j/k
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:44 PM
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36. Actually, she stayed with him for a long time afterwards and it was
a very serious situation. I guess comedy is when it happens to someone else. Tragedy is when it happens to you.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:09 PM
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42. LOL BB ..........A bakers dozen blue light special aisle five
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:33 PM
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27. Shouldn't the Pottery Barn rule apply here?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:18 PM
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44. I know a guy who broke his
screwing around on his wife. He had to go home and pretend there was nothing wrong. Apparently his wife had some idea, and her revenge was to inflict wild porn-worthy sex on him as often as possible.

I found out about this from the other woman (the penis-breaker) who thought the whole thing was funny as hell. I'm guessing he wasn't laughing.
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usedtobesick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:29 PM
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21. can I file a suit
for being made to even think about that happening? I may be mentally scared. Wait I am sure that happened before I read this post...never mind.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 07:44 AM
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45. You signed the disclaimer when you entered the Lounge, right?
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:35 PM
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28. I tend to doubt that a fractured penis is a frequent risk...
guys are so proud of this appendage that surely this "work related injury" would have spread around locker rooms throughout the world, and women would have been made to sign some type of release years ago.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:39 PM
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32. Guess he would have rather had one that just lays there and cries?
That's a load of fun, lemme tell ya!

"Necrophilia? Oh, Yeah! Fuckin' the DEAD! I know ALL about that shit! I was MARRIED FOR FIFTEEN YEARS!!!!"-The Late Sam Kinnison
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:51 PM
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41. Entertaining in the lounge are you?
get over to the CSPAN schedule and contribute something worthy. I'm just kidding. Just stopped by to say :hi:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:16 PM
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43. It's hard work!!!!!
But someone has to do it.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:08 PM
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46. Do fractured penis stories have legs?
:shrug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:21 PM
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47. sometimes they actually split and grow into new ones
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:39 PM
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49. Nothing "wanton or reckless"
Hey, if your sex isn't both "wanton" and "reckless," you're clearly not doing it properly!
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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:33 PM
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50. Kind of brings a whole new meaning
to the term safe sex, don't you think?
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