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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 06:58 AM Original message |
12 Year Old Boy Ordered To Pay $200,000.00 For Vandalism At University |
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MattPSU (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wow |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No shit! Hopefully he will learn some respect for property! |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. that is unbelievable |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. $8.2 million in damage? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Halliburton must have gotten the contract for repair. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Did you read the description of what they did? |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. yep and it sounds like the dollar amount is exaggerated to me |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Well, clearly because you have no clue of how much |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Did you bother to read the article because it says right in the text |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. that does sound really high... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. not just equipment |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. they didn't just throw toilet paper around or spray paint some shit |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. The whole building cost 33.1 million to build |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. but the kids aren't being charged 8.2 million |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. True, but $200,000 ain't small change |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Did you have any flood damage to your home? |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. yep, but this isn't a small home situation |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. You have nothing to support your opinion with. |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Liz, I think the estimate for the damage is way too high |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:04 AM Original message |
You think the insurance company would estimate so they can pay |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
61. Tell me about it. I just finished remodeling from the water |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Insurance companies of all stripes are EVIL |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. Actually I doubt that the damage is being overestimated. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. it is more expensive to repair damage than it is to put it in brand new |
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RubyDuby in GA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
71. This is quite true |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. What's in it to you? The kid wasn't asked to pay |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I call em like I see em |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Kid and his family are being screwed? For the horrible damage |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. that's why they put a renewable judgement on him |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Well, clearly, they won't get any money any time soon- |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I see it the same way, Miz. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. Restitution should be part of every sentence involving theft, burglary, |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. Damn, I did something similar |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Well, I bet you would have learn your lesson if you were |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I'll bet I would have too |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. I'd be curious how a 12 year old could pay this |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
90. Where you pregnant at the time? |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm sure that is just pocket change! |
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MsAnthropy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. His parents only have to pay $1,000 |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Scientific equipment costs an obscene amounts of money- |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. As a person who had bad damage done by flooding |
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sexybomber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Yeah, exactly. |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. The kid is 12 and he is saddled now with $200,000 to repay. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Saddling a child with $200,000 when adults in our economy can hardly |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. 200,000 is the deductable on an insurance. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. And collecting it from a 12 year old child will take a generation or more. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Don't destroy buildings, and you won't be asked to pay. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I don't understand why he wasn't fined a third of that then |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Yeah, what happened to the other two kids? |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
85. it isn't clear in the article, but it looks like that might be the case. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. actions have consequences |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. It was an incredibly foolish thing to do, but it was a 12 yr old who was |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It is symbolic. It is never gonna be paid |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. No they'll just ruin his future credit and force him into the military |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. He is a juvenile. It will be sealed when he is 18 |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. So when he turns 18 the debt won't still be his? WRONG |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. probably not, actually |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Then he'd have to declare bankruptcy |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. 12 year olds cannot sign contracts |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:25 AM Original message |
Oh, you're positive? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
80. I just talked to my boss, a laywer who does alot of financial/real estate |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. These days, you never know dude |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. for precedent. Judges do that |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Of course I don't. But it's also outrageous that they are using this fine |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. counseling is a slap on the wrist at best |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. And have you been on probation during your entire teen years? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. probation is nothing |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Ok, fine, you've convinced me, let's let that kid live under a cloud of |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. this kid would be worse off if no one punished him |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. And you don't see the outrageousness of a $200,000 fine? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. what, should the court have found that the college pay the deductible? |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. LOL.... So, you know that they won't be able to collect the $200,000 |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Ok...let me try again |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Here we go! Heheheheh. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I'm not sure I understand your response... |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I love ya Misunderestimator |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. LOL... Thanks, miz |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #60 |
77. No, not an insult. Just "here we go," is all. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Yeah, ok... crystal clear then... thanks. |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. You are very welcome. n/t |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. He'll have to mow alot of lawns to come up with that |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Now seriously, I wonder about the practicality of that. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I have no idea why they think a 12 year old |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. They will never get 200, 000 out of the kid. I think it's a given. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. exactly |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. How do they expect to collect money in many lawsuits? |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
17. How much do kids these days charged for mowing lawns or shovelling snow |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. 10 bucks was the going rate when I was 12 for mowing |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
88. Wow, |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
50. As a fellow child-worshiper, he should not be fined OR punished |
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ohiosmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. You and I are in total agreement. This is another example of a heartless |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Yes, children often disturb my meals when I'm out eating |
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ohiosmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. You make a lot of sense. Especially the red light thing. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
91. Absolutely! Expecting a child to be responsible, and to own up to his |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
84. When did the laws change.....? |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
93. It seems to be a very unrealistic punishment |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-05 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. his parents must be pleased!!! |
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