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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:43 PM
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You should always wear a tie in court - right?
Edited on Thu May-26-05 12:53 PM by HEyHEY
A guy at work here, one of the best guys I know, has a settlement with the contractor who fucked him over on a deck in court today.
He had his only suit at the office cause he was going from work. This woman at work, who always bugs me for wearing ties (Pardon me for having self-respect), tells him NOT to wear his tie and to "dress down."
He was about to do it.
I pulled him aside and told him "Don't listen to her, you should ALWAYS wear a tie when you go to court. It's about respect for the institution."
What the fuck is it with society's slackers trying to drag everyone else down?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:44 PM
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1. Dunno, would it help him with the case if he looked poorer?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:45 PM
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4. Or would it help him with the case if he looked legitimate
:shrug:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:44 PM
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2. I wore a Hawaiian shirt
most days I was in court. Of course, that was a six week jury trial. We had one guy wear flip-flops.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:17 PM
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31. Lemme guess. California, right?
There is a bizarre imperative to dress down here for everything. Dressing up in the Bay Area seems to brand one as a good Republican.

No dry cleaning bills!
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:00 PM
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42. Yup
San Diego, where shorts are formal wear.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:45 PM
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3. Fuck the judicial system! Fuck the goverment! Free Quebec!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:45 PM
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5. and MUMIA!
And keep Ritalin out of our schools!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 PM
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9. Keep children out of our schools!
Those fucking shitties keep putting gum under the desks!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:48 PM
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13. And never do homework either
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:49 PM
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17. And don't let me catch you passing the dutchie from the right hand side!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:48 PM
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15. Isn't Mummia the name they used for...
powdered Egyptian mummies used as medicine?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:46 PM
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7. Hey, if the conservatives get in, that may well happen
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:48 PM
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14. Please explain how that might happen
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:50 PM
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18. Well, there will be another election soon
And the libs are in duch for this sponsorship scandal. So the Cons may take the next election. Problem is, the Liberals are the ones who held the nation together by listening to Quebec whining. If the cons get in they are likely to tell Quebec to fuck off.
So, separatism will rise again.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:34 PM
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37. Your post inspires me to repost this classic from alt.punk, 1995
Date: 29 OCT 1995 23:18:33 GMT
From: Jones town
Newgroups: alt.skinheads, alt.punk
Subject: Re: kkk get out of the montreal crust punk way

We are the Montreal crust punk and I drink my fucking beer and spit it in the face of you nazi dogs. Squat in the anarchy of montreal crust punk and you will learn how to be real hard.Come see how the real punks live and shut your fashist dog mouth or I cut your tongue out with broken beer bottle.Piss in your direction for fun when I have drunk a bottle of punk piss.Come put my cigaretts out in the nose of fashism for the crust punk pipe bomb Quebec separation revolution.Separate, separate Vive Lucian Bushard. Punks in the anarchy wish you go to a small country and we drop H-Bomb on it.I see you cut you hair off now you never gonna get a Mohawk,so the put you in the army to defend Capitalism and trhe corporation! Drink a bucket of squat piss in your direction on a monday night after the punk street hockey.Vive Jean Cladue Van DAM cos his mongrel ass would beat the punk piss out of your fashist behind.I tell you the street word is we are drunking beer for the revolution of the Quebec and th separation with pipe bombs of the canaduh.


Vive Quebec and lucian burshard

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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:46 PM
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6. Nothing like going to family court
and seeing what some people wear.

come on people at least wear clean jeans, and a t-shirt that is not a beer advertisment
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 PM
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10. My personal favourite is bail hearings
I've actually SEEN a budwiser muscle shirt appear in one
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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:52 PM
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20. not uncommon here
We get dragged to family court by my wife's ex every summer- he has no life, so this is his hobby- amazing what I see people in. I usually have at least a tie on. I see cut offs with holes in them, dirty shirts, baseball type hats. Some of the judges will not allow this attire in their court.
Nothing like a domestic violence case with a guy wearing, well....a wife beater t-shirt.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:35 PM
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38. Gad...
A Budweiser shirt? In CANADA? That's tantamount to high treason! DEATH BY WONGA WONGA! :wtf:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:37 PM
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39. It was in Woodstock,New Brunswick
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:40 PM
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41. That figures!
Where else but in the Province of Swine would someone advertise that he drank Yankee pigswill!

(And by now, of course, you knew that would get a rise outta me!) :evilgrin:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:46 PM
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8. You can't even get into our county courthouse
if you're dressed down too much, like wearing sneakers for example.

I'm with you. Let the judge know you respect his/her court.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 PM
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11. Don't wear an expensive tie, but it shows respect to the judge
and court if you make an effort.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:48 PM
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16.  I make sure I point out my tie is nicer than the judge's
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:51 PM
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19. I always like to one-up the judge, so I come to court dressed as a bishop
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:53 PM
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21. And demand he refers to you as "Your eminence"
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:27 PM
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33. Don't forget to wear a pope hat. That would be pimp
or better yet, come in dressed as a pimp like Kosmo Kramer in the Seinfeld episode
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 PM
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12. I think its respectful to dress nice in court
just as its respectful to dress nice in other places. I've never read the handbook or anything so I don't know for sure.
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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:53 PM
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22. shows respect for
self and system.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:56 PM
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23. Judges notice
I used to know a judge through a former job and he would complain about people who didn't dress "appropriately" in court, and he specifically mentioned ties. I think most judges would appreciate a tie.
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:57 PM
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24. Wear a blue tie.
Edited on Thu May-26-05 12:57 PM by caty
Wearing blue makes you appear honest.

I was in court once to be a witness. While I waited for the case to come up, there was a case of a woman who was asking for $50 a week more in child support for her 3 children. She wore a simple black skirt and a white blouse. Her exhusband was wearing a very expensive suit and told the judge he could not afford another $50 a week. The judge asked him how he dared to wear an expensive suit to court and then say he could not afford another $50. The judge then ordered him to pay another $75 a week, which brought his child support up to $150. (This was in 1970) The point is--Wear a suit and tie, but don't wear an expensive suit. It makes you look arragant.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:58 PM
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26. Well, his is a case of him being ripped off
So I don't think his financial situation will come into play.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:57 PM
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25. Of Course- here is another tip--stay away from StoneCold Steve Austin T's
I had to go to court in Maryland 7 years ago (mix up that could have really screwed me-I got a lawyer and sorta got off) and I was shocked at how people dressed for court. I am talking about DUI's and possession and such. One guy had on a StoneCold Steve Austin t-shirt and his lawyer layed into him right there. The guy sitting next to me HAD to be hung over or still drunk-he might have known he was going away so he got loaded.

I asked a friend of mine who was going through some legal troubles of his own at the time and he said that you wouldn't believe what some people wore into court.

It's about respect for the judge's position and the courts role in society. IMHO but then I came from a good home.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:00 PM
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27. Unless you're on a jury
then clean/casual/comfortable is acceptable. If you're "on deck", a business suit says "serious". It's best if you want to give a good impression.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:08 PM
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28. I think it shows respect to the court and that is
probably what they want. I would wear it if I were a man.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:10 PM
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29. Nah. Dress like Larry Flynt
With the ol' "Fuck this Court" t-shirt
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:12 PM
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30. there are dress codes in most of our courtrooms.
no jeans, tees, shorts...
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:18 PM
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32. Yes - dress to impress
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:28 PM
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34. I remember one time I was in court for jury duty, and there was a guy
wearing a T-shirt that said, and I KID you NOT: Hang 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:38 PM
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40. That'd get him out of jury duty! nt
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:30 PM
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35. I know wearing a hat is a BIG no no
You could be found in contempt for it. Always had to remember that when I was a bike messenger delivering documents into a courtroom.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:41 PM
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36. We always advise our clients to dress nicely for court appearances
Juries are more sympathetic that way.
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