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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:35 PM
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Michael Jackson Is 100% GUILTY!!!!!
discuss. :D
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:36 PM
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1. I tend to agree.
Nonetheless, he'll get off scot free. Slap on the wrist, at most.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:43 PM
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2. I agree with you AND Matcom.
He's already talking about leaving the country, and rumor has it that Neverland has either been sold...or will be.

I'm guessing he'll move to one of those shadow countries where pedophilia is "officially" frowned upon but not exactly "illegal."

I really, really, really believe he did it.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:03 PM
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7. I do, too...but the jury will return a not guilty verdict
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 07:03 PM by terrya
And I bet the jury will take less than 4 hours to deliberate.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:13 PM
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8. I agree w/ my home girl.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 07:42 PM by ronnykmarshall
Just watched a show about OJ (don't hate me Catwoman) and I think that he'll get off.

Here's what I think.

I think he did it.

What pisses me off is that:

1. He has allllllll these people (his fucked up family and employees) that let this shit go on.

2. He's a pathetic sick person that should have been stopped along time ago ..... see fucked up family and so on.

3. He doesn't now any better .... again see fucked family and employees that don't want the cash cow to dry up.

4. His fucked up "fans" will probably trash Santa Maria (a nice city) IF he get convicted.

I feel nothing but pitty for MJ. He's still a kid in his own warped mind and no one has had the gut to slap the shit of him and set him straight.

That said, I also feel sorry for victims. They've been through hell and paid the price.

BUT ....... who the fuck (parents) have half a brain to let their kid(s) alone with this freak?

Good gawd!!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:48 PM
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3. Oh yeah, well don't tell anyone I tipped you off but...
there's this guy over here who says you're full of sith.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:50 PM
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4. Well i'm glad your supremeness is on the jury
Tried, convicted, and sentenced for being weird. :grr:
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:58 PM
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5. errrr.. not for being weird...
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 06:59 PM by mac56
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:01 PM
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6. Yes he should be condemned to hell for all eternity.
He is 100% guilty for everything ever. Never once in his life did he ever consider doing anything that wasn't pure evil.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:29 PM
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9. I think he's innocent
Weird, but innocent.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:54 PM
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14. Litmus Test Question: Would you let your 12 year old son sleep in the same
bed as MJ, unsupervised?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:26 PM
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23. Don't know, never met him.
But there are other people I wouldn't let my twelve year old daughter sleep in the same bed with that haven't committed a crime.

We're not supposed to lock people up on suspicions and mistrust. We're supposed to lock them up because of incontrovertible proof they committed a crime.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:26 AM
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50. No. We're not. supposed to. But witnesses testified in court to what they
saw and heard.

They've seen MJ in the shower with a child, in bed with a child, giving booze to a child.

Just because they didn't SEE HIM having SEX with a child doesn't mean it didn't happen. And just because he didn't have sex with ALL the children he ever met, doesn't mean that some weren't molested.

MJ fits the psychological profile and patterns of a man who systematically selects, entices and then molests children.

Just because YOU didn't see him do it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I have met MJ. I worked for him for 6 weeks on a show.

I wouldn't let my child anywhere near him. He's a shrewd, calculating mentally ill child molester.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:34 PM
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10. Guilty of what?
Sleeping with children? Guilty
Being supremely weird? Guilty

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:37 PM
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11. Here are some warning signs of pedophilia:
1. Popular with both children and adults.

2. Appears to be trustworthy and respectable. Has good standing in the community.

3. Prefers the company of children. Feels more comfortable with children than adults. Is mainly attracted to prepubescent boys and girls. Can be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

4. "Grooms" children with quality time, video games, parties, candy, toys, gifts, money.

5. Singles out children who seem troubled and in need of attention or affection.

6. Often dates or marries women with children that are the age of his preferred victims.

7. Rarely forces or coerces a child into sexual contact. Usually through trust and friendship. Physical contact is gradual, from touching, to picking up, to holding on lap, to kissing, etc.
Derives gratification in a number of ways. For some, looking is enough. For others, taking pictures or watching children undress is enough. Still others require more contact.

8. Finds different ways and places to be alone with children.

9. Are primarily (but not always) male, masculine, better-educated, more religious than average, in their thirties, and choose jobs allowing them greater access to children.

10. Are usually family men, have no criminal record, and deny that they abuse children, even after caught, convicted, incarcerated, and court-ordered into a sex offender program. The marriage is often troubled by sexual dysfunction, and serves as a smokescreen for the pedophile's true preferences and practices.

11. Are often, but not always, themselves victims of some form of childhood sexual abuse.

12. Even if the pedophile has no children, his home is usually child-friendly, with toys, books, video games, computers, bikes, swing sets, skateboards, rec room, pool, snacks - things to attract children to his home and keep them coming back. Usually the items reflect the preferred age of his victims.

****

I'm not saying he's guilty, but I wouldn't let my kids spend 5 minutes alone with this man.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:55 PM
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15. Thank YOU!!
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 08:06 PM by ronnykmarshall
MJ has been enabled to what he wants.


That said, I'll admit I've never been a "fan" of Michael Jackson. Oh hell ya, the guy is fucking talentend. Not my taste but he's talented.

For years people have stood by and watched him turn himself into a fucking freak. No one, not Mama, not Daddy, not Janet nor Tito or anyone in that family have had the balls to stand up to MJ and say "what the fuck are you doing?".

I also like Lisa Marie Presley. I won't even try to figure out what the shit she was thinking when she "married" Micheal.

Bottom line.

This guy is a mess. He's been allowed to do what ever the hell he wants to his face, his life, his money and not one person has had the guts to tell him that he ain't rite.

I'm not on that jury (thank you god). I can't pass judgement on him. That's for god to do. I feel sorry for him. He's a kid that is a 40 plus year old man.

The boys that have had deal with him IMO were whored out by their parents. THEY are the victims. Fucked up lives and no money can make a difference.

The people that should be on trial w/ MJ are the selfish mother fuckers like his father, mother, sisters, brothers, employees that knew damn good and well this shit was going on.

Fuck them. They are just as guilty for letting this shit go on.

IF...... and I say IF MJ is convicted, there are more people that should be in jail than just "Wacko Jacko".

If he's convicted and goes to jail will I be sad? Yeah. God-damn it, I'll be sad. Sad because I feel it's wrong? No. Sad because a guy that I still see as a cute kid in J5? Hell yes. I won't question it if he is convicted. I'll be sad that the cute kid in the Jackson 5 was so fucked up in life it led to this.

If get's off?

All I can say to MJ is this: Get help. Fuck your blood sucking family and move your ass to a island and get over your god-damn ego. GROW THE FUCK UP!!
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:00 PM
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16. Considering his family was making him sing in STRIP CLUBS at age 6
"The family got three cents for every record sold, and promoting it was anything but glamorous. By his sixth birthday, Michael Jackson had performed to “Big Boy” in front of the audience at a number of strip clubs."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080055/

Yeah, that might screw a kid up. The father should definitely get jailed.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:07 PM
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17. You got it.
Joe Jackson is a fucking pig.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:24 PM
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19. he is no better than a street pimp
the way he sold his kids for his own profit and ruined their lives...there is no excuse for how he fucked his family up.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:31 PM
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22. I honestly belive he is guilty
He has huge red flags against him behavior wise. There are many people testifying against him. There are many boys who have accused him. Many of the boys stories have all the hallmarks of the truth, like Jordan Chandler's, the boy from the 1993 case. His uncle released a book called "All That Glitters" and I own it. I believe the Chandlers. There is nothing in the book that makes me think they are lying.

If I was a young boy molested, I would have been terrified to come forward. There is no way in hell I would have made something like this up. Pre-adolescent boys just do not make up stories about being fondled or raped by adult males---if they do, it is probably VERY rare. The embarrassment and humiliation would be so intense, as would your own sexual confusion after the fact. You cannot underestimate how traumatic coming forward must be for these boys, let alone the incidents themselves.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:28 PM
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24. Warning signs of an involved parent, too. Mr. Rogers even fits the bill
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:39 PM
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28. Could you tell me where you got this list?
I think it is excellent and I would like a printed copy and a source if possible. Long story as to why which I don't care to post but would answer in PM.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:56 PM
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30. Here is the link I used. Also, please refer to a book called
"Protecting the Gift" by Gavin DeBecker - it is the best book I have ever read on this subject and on the subject of protecting children from abduction. It was the book that alerted me to these signs.


http://www.mental-health-matters.com/articles/article.php?artID=273
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:32 PM
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32. Thanks...
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:55 PM
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49. great post/list. and it fits one i knew to a T.
we had to get a restraining order against him!

(did you sign the letter?
here's the link)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:53 PM
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12. great
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:54 PM
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13. I think so too, but doubt he will be convicted
in this case.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:19 PM
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18. He may not be guilty of the current charges...
I can't say, not hearing all the evidence. I have heard enough to convince me he is a sick puppy. Not that I didnt have misgivings before.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:26 PM
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20. Michael Jackson is 100% weird.
That is all. :hi:
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:30 PM
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21. I think he did nothing...
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:44 PM
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37. Read this and you'll change your mind.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:30 PM
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25. Does ANYONE here have any real knowledge of this case or this man?
Aside from what we've learned over the years by the same media that tells us George W Bush is a good, thoughtful man and a great leader?
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:46 PM
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38. Apparently not
Many here are relying heavily on media images and propaganda.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:53 PM
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39. I've read the
court complaint, some of the motions, the terms of the 1993 settlement, the psychiatric interview of a prior complaintant, the 1993 lawsuit filed, and other court documents.



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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:34 PM
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26. He is, and so are the boy's parents
I believe that the parents deliberately put their child in harm's way in an attempt to extort money from Mr. Jackson. Because of them, their son is damaged for life and Jackson will walk.
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SteveIrving1 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:38 PM
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27. Your Dam right hes guilty
Come on what grown adult man sleeps in the same bed as children that aren't his own and also has skin like that. I remember when he used to be black no hes whi.. Blight
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:36 PM
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46. Easily swayed, aren't ya?
Make up some more shit. It is entertaining.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:51 PM
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29. I feel sorry for him but wish he would just go away.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:08 PM
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31. *Psychiatric Interview with Jackson's First Accuser*
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 10:10 PM by Lex
.
After I read this, I no longer believed Jackson to be innocent:

http://www.courttv.com/news/jackson/docs/psychiatric.html

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:34 PM
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33. Holy shit,this is some fucking sick stuff.
MJ is a fucking monster.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:36 PM
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34. Yeah, and I, for one, don't believe the kid was "coached" to say
those things.

It's pretty damn believable.

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:38 PM
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35. This kid wasn't coached.
Lex please start a thread with this link.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:39 PM
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36. Swede--if you want, you can use the link and start a thread
--I don't mind.

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:41 PM
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47. I just read it now, for the first time
I had to stop midway. It's just disgusting.

There's no way the kid is making this stuff up. He mentions too many fine details, and he corrects the interrogator when he/she is inconsistent with his prior details.

I don't wish harm on MJ. I just want him to get the help he has always so desperately needed, and I want him hundreds of yards away from any children whatsoever ever again.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:58 PM
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40. I give 0% of a red rat's ass about Michael Jackson.
End of discussion.

Redstone
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:01 PM
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41. You care enough
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:02 PM by Lex
.
to open the thread and post about it!

:silly:

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:04 PM
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42. Yup. Just trying to kill it...
Redstone
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:06 PM
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43. By bumping it?
Hmmm . . .


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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:29 PM
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44. I'm not taking the bait. See you later.
Redstone
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:43 PM
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48. You just did
Nice to see that irony is not lost on you.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:32 PM
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45. I think he is too
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:35 PM by fujiyama
I'm not sure what exactly he did (and I didn't pay attention to the trial and I'm not interested in details), but I think he gave kids alcohol and molested them(though in his twisted mind I don't think he saw it as "molestation").

He's admitted to national TV that it's OK to sleep with kids in the same bed. He's truly bizarre and his mind is twisted.

It's really unfortunate. I actually liked some of his older music.

I can't see him spending time in prison. I see him leaving the country or even commiting suicide before that (if he's convicted which I doubt).
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