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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 05:07 AM
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ARGH! Next door neighbors are MORONS!!!!
At some point they aquired a 6 month old puppy, and can you guss how they are teaching it to "come"?
By saying, "Bye Elvis!" and pretending to leave!!!!!

This is SO WRONG on SO MANY levels!!

I've seen people do this with their kids and it is horrible parenting, but with an animal it is irresponsible, stupid and dangerous!! It is PASSIVE-AGRESSIVE behavior, how the f*ck is an animal supposed to understand that?? (And let me tell you, he doesn't, he completely ignores it, which leads him to run wild and I've seen him almost run into traffic, so then they chase after him which is WRONG also). Now, using this on kids is terrible, because it teaches them to obey by using the threat of, "If you don't do as I wish, I will leave you." Which is a totally f*cked up way to raise a kid. Children should obey because they are taught to DO AS THEY ARE TOLD BY A PARENT WHO IS A LOVING AND TRUSTED AUTHORITY FIGURE. They can learn to question authority later, as teenagers.

BUT DOGS SHOULD NEVER QUESTION AUTHORITY!!! It's crap like this that gives responsible dog owners problems. This dog is NEVER going to learn "Come" "Stay" "Sit" or anything. I actually just heard the girlfriend threaten the dog with, "No, too late, I'm leaving you!" Because she had said, "Bye Elvis" and he hadn't "Come"
:wtf:
How the HELL is a dog going to understand that?
I almost hope that dog gets hit in traffic soon, and gets put out of its miserable life.
I know that sounds horrible, but that dog is going to fully mature into a monster with no manners.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:25 AM
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1. I don't know if this will help or not but

You could send articles on how to raise and train a puppy to them either anonymously or give them to your neighbor in person.

Five years ago when I moved here just about every neighbor used pesticides on their lawn. Being organic, I hated this and was fearful of the chemicals getting onto my lawn and gardens.

I looked up studies on the Internet and printed them out for each neighbor. The studies were on how pesticides affect reproduction in humans and how harmful they are to children and pets. Some of the studies I delivered in person and others I sent through the mail anonymously, mostly depending on how easy the neighbor was to contact. Within one year, not one neighbor was using pesticides.

Whatever you do, be careful how you present your info. No one likes to be "scolded" and your ultimate aim is the health and safety of the puppy. I really wanted to give my neighbors a lecture but I realized that it wasn't in my best interests to do so.



Cher
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:45 AM
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2. Might be too late
But a quick trip to the bookstore, and a few "puppy warming" presents might be the way to go. The Monks of New Skete have a puppy book now, really very good stuff about what dogs do, and do not, understand. Little red bow and "congratulations" (and mutter under your breath "you morons") .

It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid... I've heard conversations like "what did I tell you about ______, puppy?" like the dog has any idea what you're talking about.... :eyes:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:58 AM
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6. Good ideas!
I wonder if I should get "Dogs for Dummies" for them!
I own it myself, and I think it is a really good book, but that might be a little too obvious.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:13 AM
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7. In the absence of "Dogs for Irresponsible Idiots" that may have to do...
:D
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:22 AM
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11. I talk to my dog all the time...
call me nuts, but sometimes she even understands me...

Her call name is Jessie, real name, Rushwind Lady of the Lake, but when I'm really P*&ssed off at her she'll respond to Jessica Lynn, which has nothing to do with her name, it just works well.

I know it's the tone of voice, but hey I like to delude myself.

Hopefully, your neighbors will realize their attempts are fruitless, go out and get some treats, and do it the old fashioned way...


P.S. I admit I say "bye" to my kids, but I don't actually walk out the door, they both seem pretty well adjusted and well loved, but then I'm biased...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:06 AM
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3. Let the dog live...
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 08:07 AM by Richardo
I almost hope that dog gets hit in traffic soon, and gets put out of its miserable life.

Better if, as they are pretending to leave, the owners walk out into traffic and are killed. This would spare an innocent pup; and at the same time exact Darwinian justice on these idiots, who -- I hope --have not yet reproduced.

I just wish we had enough room on the Richardo family's Lone Star Estate for all the dogs who are forced to live under similar conditions.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:27 AM
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4. Dogs respond more to tone of voice than words
Words other than their name, that is. Try it sometimes.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:21 AM
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8. Dogs respond to sounds as well.
My dog responds to more words than his name. "P" sounds mean "beg to go the park. Someone just said park."

My passive-aggressive advice would be to go up to the couple and comment on the cuteness and greatness of the dog. Then slip in some minor obedience training. If the dog acts up, I'd say something like "I know a great book about this..."
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:30 AM
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5. Well he'll end up in the pound, now won't he?
Dang some people are stupid.

Ask them if they think the dog understands english.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:48 AM
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9. I do the "Bye" thing with my kids.
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 09:50 AM by Gringo
And I don't think it's mean or passive-aggressive at all. When we are going someplace, I tell them "Okay, we're going to X now, put on your shoes (and they usually ignore me). Then when I'm ready to go, I go the the door and say "Bye, I guess you're staying here, right?", and they run over and put on their shoes and we go. My kids never seem freaked out or anything, they just don't want to stay home alone, but they also don't want to get their asses in gear until the last second - they just want to continue building lego houses or whatever.

ON EDIT: I should say, I don't pretend to leave - only do it when actually leaving...


You have a very judgmental tone RE others' parenting/doog-rearing. Do you have kids? I can assure you that it's VERY different from dog-rearing, which entails very little responsibility. Your neighbors may or may not be morons, but what do you care? I've had neighbors SOOO much worse than that. Some people raise their dogs for fighting, or beat the crap out of their dogs. I remember my grandma's neighbors' dogs were covered in ticks, all around the eyes and ears, just broke my heart. As long as they love them and feed them, I would never complain. I kept a bassett hound for 10 years. He was never trained to do anything. He just lived in the back yard, and we fed him and played with him. That's it. He couldn't come in the house, because he'd pee on everything, but he was okay outside (we'd put him in the garage on very cold days, but mostly his doghouse was warm enough).
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:10 AM
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10. Just because I'm judgemental
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 10:11 AM by Coventina
doesn't mean you aren't a bad parent!
:-)

hypothetically of course, I would never presume to judge your parenting ability without seeing it for myself.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:22 AM
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12. Don't you mean "MORANS"?
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:24 AM
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13. That's one of my pet peeves
"People who treat their dogs like they're people"

THEY'RE NOT!!! They're DOGS.

Is it really that hard to understand?
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Chilly_Willy Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 11:52 AM
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14. Yep dogs and animals
I agree animals do need more attention and need more time learning the signals a human wants to teach to their pets. They aren't people, they don't speak the same language, they do not function as humans do taking responsibility of their actions...There are so many things we really should realize when we all decide to own a pet. Will we have time for him/her, will we be able to promise a schedule of playtime, meals, training, etc.

Animals do need our sympathy and compassion, not someone barking orders or someone one in this case deciding that showing by there body communication that they are leaving when they are trying to get the dog to come. Very confusing, if you don't build trust with animals they will get out of hand ... just like children, only animals need more care and they live shorter lives.
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