Do you stereotype Hummer drivers?

Tell me about your stereotypes? Are Hummer drivers a certain race, age, income class, etc?

I know I'm guilty of it, but I want to hear what DUers think.

That's my stereotype of them.

I'm sure that there are a few people out there with a genuine need for a monster truck, but most of them are just out to impress others. Burning all that fuel for fun is unpatriotic.

And therefore, Male, White, Pseudochristians.

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I've only seen creepy freeper males driving Hummers -- she's DEFINITELY an exception to the rule!

Why the hell does she want such an ugly "car?"

which is where I grew up. She doesn't think it's ugly. She likes the look of it and the luxury that it provides.

with no one else riding along, most of the time.

Nothing pisses me off more than to see Hummer drivers guzzling gas with only one person in the vehicle.

She takes my dad or little brother around most of the time.

But from what I've read on here, the shitty gas mileage is not the problem that most people on here have with the Hummer. It's the fact that it's so big and bulky, because there are hybrid SUVs on the market right now that get 30+ MPG.

I mean some people drive sports cars which only get maybe 16 mpg. What's the difference? :shrug:

But I see your point. I do, really.

I think you and others on here would still hate the Hummer, even if they came out with a hybrid version that got 30 MPG.

10/13, which is considerably better than 6. For such a big car, I'm actually surprised that it gets 10/13.

BushCo approved gas mileage, for sure!

They most fun I had with a Hummer was watching this guy to parallel park one in West L.A. -- he's going back and forth and everyone's honking and pissed off, I was laughing though!

It's as simple as that. But I have the right to buy what I want, and I'm keeping my Expedition, which I bought used, btw.

These idiots in the mega cars, cause more accidents. I don't think they should be able to park by driveways -- it makes it almost impossible to back out! You can't see around them. If they hit you and you're in anything less than an armored tank, you're dead.

Although most sports cars get better gas mileage than Hummers, sports cars aren't half as annoying.

I don't see anything patriotic about giving the Saudis and BushCo twice as much money as you have to, knowing what evil they do with it.

Some SUVs are about the same height as vans, and yet vans serve useful purposes as well.

Not to mention when they were first introduced, the tax incentives on them amounted to welfare for the rich.

Why are you trying to link Hummer drivers to the Iraq war?

The Hummer is an expensive car, I know that. Most people who drive expensive cars tend to vote Republican. It doesn't matter what type of car it is.

Just blink and it'll all go away.

Most people in GENERAL are not of course but especially ones that drive expensive cars!! They were asking $5,000 over the sticker for the Prius which is why I couldn't get one. So I would say a fair amount of people with money got those, they were selling faster than they could stock them and WAY over sticker.

BushCo LOVES your Hummer!! They appreciate it...

No hybrid really is.

I'm talking 45k and up.

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nt

People wonder why anyone would drive one of those hunks of junk.

But the LTD was an ugly car.

Grotesque shit vehicles. :puke:

not.

I find the Prius to be a particularly ugly car myself. If I was going t buy a hybrid, which I'm not, then I would make it a Honda.

Which should prove it's the epitome of new tacky. It should be illegal to drive those tanks, it makes the roads more dangerous for everyone.

Your mileage may vary.

Just stop trying to stereotype people by the car that they drive.

I know plenty of pricks who drive Honda Civics, and I drive an Expedition myself. I try not to judge people by the car they drive.

I will think about changing my mind. But here in Kane County, IL, they are 90% Freeper jerks who ought to be ground into fertilizer.

riding along, do you? I think it's selfish as hell to drive an SUV when there are no passengers. What's the freakin' point of owning a road/gas hog if a smaller car would provide the same luxury and transportation?

Curious.

But it doesn't really matter. I mean it's really my business I think, if I want to take 5 people in the car with me, or 1, or even carry no extra passengers. Like I said in the other post, lots of tiny sports cars with big engines get crappy mileage as well.

decade is partially to blame for the increase in demand on gasoline, and, thus the increase in price for everyone.

Surely you understand a tiny bit why people resent SUV drivers.

No doubt that SUVs use more than a Civic, but so do private planes, like the ones Kerry rode around in last year. Those use thousands of gallons of gas, but I didn't hear anyone complaining about that.

Of course the price of oil is going to go up as the supply of it drops.

IF you were driving your SUV to change the direction of the nation, that would be understandable.

BTW, SUVs are no longer a status symbol. They are the Ford LTDs of the 1970s. They're selling for a song and a dance here. PEople don't envy you. They resent you.

What does that have to do with the make of car that I drive?

Didn't you just excuse your and your mother's SUV driving by saying (non sequiter) that John Kerry rode around in airplanes when he campaigned?

:shrug:

And Kerry was not exactly going to change the direction of the nation.

He was DLC and he would have continued the buildup of the military industrial complex. There were better candidates in the primaries.

I'm actually very glad that I abstained from voting in the last election.

the build up of the MI complex.

Boy are your true colors showing.

Don't even pretend to be a liberal, or even moderately progressive.

I guess I'd better toss my NAACP and ACLU cards in the trash, since they identify me as slightly progressive.

Enjoy the blood in your tank. Hope you can adjust to walking or bicycling when the gas is gone.

but I do walk a lot. I walk to work, in fact. It's a 15 minute walk from my house. I'm not white, and I'm not overweight from driving my tank everywhere. What else you got?

The time is coming when you'll have to adjust, and it won't be pleasant.

for me to afford, I will buy a more fuel-efficienct vehicle.

It doesn't matter that you're wasting precious resources, only that it might get too expensive for you. THEN you'll buy a more fuel-efficient vehicle.

Can't you hear how utterly irresponsible you sound? Why not buy one now and try to do your part towards conservation instead of just pouring gas in your tank?

I'm just not really sure about that right now.

there's a draft, you won't go. You also said that, since it's a volunteer army, they signed up and shouldn't complain. I'm paraphrasing, so you get the gist of it.

I just wanted to opine that you are a true patriot. :eyes:

And, btw, if you have anything to say to me, say it on the boards. Quit being a wuss and PMing me.

It is volunteer.

And I view this war as unjust and evil. I am a pacifist.

you and your parent drive gas guzzlers.

Apathetic? Yes. Pacifist? Hardly.

non-pacifist about driving an SUV? I can't kill a fly without feeling bad. You don't know what you are talking about.

:eyes:

You are riled up.

trying to rile me up. Thanks for the PMs. :eyes:

5 years ago.

Others have sent me PMs saying that flame wars are a part of DU. I am beginning to realize that.

You're not a really popular newbie, are you?

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referred to Kerry campaigning, not you driving. :)

Are you GOP? Tell the truth now, LOL! If not you sure sound like one.

Just pointing out the fact that Teresa owns a private plane and they rode around in it. It is not exactly environmentally friendly.

not all sports cars are inefficient :evilgrin:

Exactly the stereotype breaker I just saw. I was at the mall and happened to see a Hummer. Out of McRae's walks a black woman, about 45 years old. She climbs up in the hummer, and I stand there with my jaw dropped.

Your mom isn't in Mississippi right now, with an LSU tag on the front of her hummer, by any chance?

She's about 2,500 miles northeast of there. :P

But glad to see that she is not the only one. It is ironic though, because my mom is 44 years old, very similar to your description.

Actually, she was stunningly pretty.

nt

Posts like this are just stupid.

So my mom is a murderer or complicit in murder?

That's garbage. It's not her fault that Bush is a warmonger who went to Iraq for oil. She didn't support that.

By contributing to the nation's wasteful uses of a non-renewable resource, she is supporting it. You can't have it both ways - people need to get around but they don't need to be so wasteful about it.

anymore than someone who buys pot is supporting terrorism. :eyes:

You are the queen of non sequiters. :eyes:

In communities all across America. For all I know you support it.

Thanks for entertaining me tonight. LOL!

As far as I am concerned you just discredited anything else you might say.

rages on even as we speak. :(

And the "War on Poverty", etc.

However, the bulk of the oil used by this country is imported from the middle east. But changing the subject is simply a way of avoiding the underlying point. If we didn't use so much fuel, we would not have such a desperate need for it. If we didn't have such a desperate need for it, we would not be embroiled in middle eastern affairs.

Sounds like mom's a bit of a dino.

domestically grown."

Or at least, doesn't come from so far away.

"... the bulk of the oil used by this country is imported from the middle east."

Is that true? I though it was a smaller % than "most". Just asking...

I would recommend it. Yes, over 50% of our oil comes from the middle east; more comes from other areas of the world. I forget what the percentage is of domestically produced oil but it's shrinking every year.

Damn! I didn't know it was that much. Thanks.

Her vehicle (and yours) guzzle gas when it's unnecessary. You yourself said that usually there are no more than two people in either vehicle.

Reread your post. Your mother's gas guzzler (and yours) are partially to blame for the war in Iraq. Deny it if you must...

If your not part of the solution,your part of the problem.

another SUV, just to spite you.

They are disproportionately in the military you know.

but not in combat positions. Those are filled with rural white males.

Sorry, but many of the dead coming home to my state are African Americans.

20% of Iraq deaths are black males. But most combat positions are filled by rural white males. Blacks are underrepresented in those combat positions. Most are in logistics, etc. It's a fact.

I heard that on Free Republic. I know you mentioned you've never heard of them,but they have some interesting stuff.

nt

LOL!

you are nice

:)

Do you think that anyone envies the car you drive? Most people recognize your bad choice, and, as you drive by, they are thinking, "What an idiot. He either got the car in the bargain bin or has no concern for fellow humans."

I don't see why driving an Expedition implies that I want people to envy me, any more than a Democrat in LA buying a Porsche means that he wants people to envy him. I don't see my car as a status symbol. I work hard, and while I don't exactly live paycheck to paycheck, I am not rich either.

to know they don't give a shit about a lot of things I care about.

drive those ridiculously huge pick-ups.

not concerned about pollution.

... that they all have tiny little penises?

the smaller the penis size. If it is a woman, then her boyfriend or husband has a small one.

but I don't know anyone who owns one. I saw one just this morning on my way to work.....I was thinking to myself then, would I buy one if I could easily afford it? ....I think so. I have an SUV an would never go back to a car.

That has got to be the stupidest and ugliest vehicle ever made. How stupid is it? My idiot Governator has nine of them, case closed.

I hate the suburbanites here who drive those to work every day -- isn't the air in LA polluted enough for them?

Ed Begley Jr. is my parent's neighbor, and my personal hero. We even saw him on the subway in a tux -- we were also going to the same event and the only ones in the subway dressed up! He has an electric car and a Prius and solar panels on the roof, too bad there aren't more like him, our generation is so "I want what I want and don't care who it hurts," it's a GOP attitude quite frankly.

and I don't think they come in SUV style either. That would be the only car I'd buy at this point. Yea, I do have my short comings...yet....there is a great big part of me that could easily focus on the greater good.

And I say to myself: What a jerk. Here in L.A. especially what kind of idiot would want to burn that kind of gas?

So far: Freeper types, which is to say, white guys, but a special type of ugly dumb looking white guy. Lots of "W" stickers. Never seen a good looking guy in a Hummer; never seen a woman or minority driving a Hummer. Never seen a Kerry sticker on a Hummer.

OK everyone scream at me that they exist, I'm just sayin' Never seen one yet, and am looking for them! It is a matter of great curiosity to me, jerks in Hummers.

They had a fun event June 18th at the local Hummer dealer called "Hummers Are Bummers; Size Matters." This was at the Casa De Cadillac in Sherman Oaks -- 8 mile bike ride & festivities. I bought my little Saab wagon from the same dealer!

By a group I call "The Toyota Pious". Basically, it doesn't matter who or what that person is, if they're driving a full-sized SUV, they're an asshole.

I tend to disagree. Up until I lost it due to divorce, I drove an SUV. I often had 4+ psaaengers in is, used it to access off-road locations, and so forth. The 4x4 club I belong to does, among other things, trail cleanups to clear trails of the garbage of inconsiderate hikers, cyclists, etc, and we also take handicapped kids into the woods for camp-outs and stuff, to places where wheelchairs or special busses couldn't get.

But I have received anti SUV leaflets under my wipers, and been flipped-off on the highway.

It's like the SUV owner is the poster child for all things evil on the roads.

If you ask me, the real culprits are the kinds of people who may own a Honda Civic, but never, ever walk, cycle or bus anywhere... they'll jump in their car to go a block to the store.

And people who are just shitty drivers.

Honestly, if you're driving any kind of internal-combustion engined vehicle, you're part of the problem of global warming, pollution, dangerous environments, finite energy consumption, and community desocialisation; the kind of car you drive is only splitting hairs.

I do. I see them as extremely selfish. Uncaring about the environment, about fossil fuel supply, about war for oil, about their fellows' safety on the road.

Income class -- not necessarily. It doesn't take much to go into debt because you really want something.

Race -- nope. Nor gender nor orientation. I did once see a rainbow flag on one.

Not even political party. I'm sure there are liberals who drive these things. See first paragraph and :shrug: along with me.

just CD players.

else knows they're arrogant assholes.

I saw one the other day with a license plate that read: GETAHMR2.

I rest my case.

Redstone

They appear to be mainly white, 30-ish men.

I suspect they desire to be powerful like the Scwartzen-ator. It's a fantasy thing maybe.

However, the REAL assholes drive Porsches.

Hummer drivers seem to be more into the mystique, but I've found they are no better or worse than anyone else on the road.

What me stereo type? Naw!

don't seem to care how much non-renewable energy they're using up. I don't really stereotype them by race, age or political background though you do have to have a certain amount of money to get a Hummer.

I had a boyfriend whose response to all this was, "well, they can afford the gas." That's not the point - it's just damn wasteful to drive a vehicle that gets such poor mileage. Not just Hummers, many of these vehicles and I include smaller vehicles with poor mileage.

Plenty of people who drive large vehicles have a legitimate reason. My hubby drives a Chevy Tahoe - he is a carpenter and needs a vehicle with enough room for his tools. He gets about 19 mpg which isn't horrible for that size vehicle but we use my car (30 to 35 mpg) to do errands and such because of the mileage factor. Not so much because of the money, though that is a factor, but because of the waste.

We're such a throwaway society. We seem to think that it's okay to consume and consume and consume. This is the only planet we have and even if it wasn't, it would be completely irresponsible to fill this one up with junk, strip it of all resources and then move on to the next one. We'd be like the aliens in Independence Day. Come to think of it, we kind of are.

Sometimes I try to shoot a dirty look at the drivers, if I can. If we're side by side in at a stop light, I can't even see the driver from my little car. I'm especially sickened by the ones with bush stickers or support the troops ribbons. What bullshit, they're driving a colossal gas waster, just wasting it, while their hero little coward boy is frantically trying to round up whoever he can to go and die some more to get this shit from Iraq (and whoever's next) anyway. Hummer drivers are a finger in the eye to every person this country has sent to war to get oil. And these fuckers are just so willfully obvlious to it all, rolling thru town in their hummers shouting, demanding. "LOOK AT ME!!!!!"

So yeah, I stereotype them, but its almost obvious even without the stickers who these people are - who they almost surely are.. What other outlook on life could lead to buying someting like that and still support bush and his Iraq bloodbath for no valid official reasons, but one damn evident one?

And even if they're not bush/war supporters, the bloated ego that attempts to satisfy itself with absolute excess, and still someone I'd really not like to meet. But if I do, I hope its at a gas station and he/she's there to fill up, but hasn't started yet. I'd tell him I'm doing a news report on how much it costs to fill up a hummer. Then I'd put my wrist in front of me to stare at my wristwatch like some official whle we stood, and stood and stood. Then the final question would be, "why?"

Its got parallels to someone who'd wear a fur (unless absoluteley necessary). Something died for that. Something was put to death for that fur coat. People are dying. People are killing each other for that shit you toss around without a care, hummer driver.

"I can't even see the driver from my little car."

They can't see you past their upturned noses, anyway.


"I'm especially sickened by the ones with bush stickers or support the troops ribbons."

That's just a shout out to their sponsors.


"... the bloated ego that attempts to satisfy itself with absolute excess ..."

It's a penis thing.

old enough to know better

ignorant narcissists


that corresponds VERY highly with the repuke demographic

anyone who would drive something with that shitty gas mileage is totally irresponsible no matter what their political leanings. there's that whole "if you don't like em don't buy one" argument, but i usually see that as a "hey, fuck everyone else i'll do what I want..." that's where the self-centered part comes in

fuck anyone who drives a hummer

males, the upper class, and rethuglicans.

As far as I'm concerned.

And with no sense of esthetics either.

Let's face it, not only are Hummers evil, they are UGGGGGGLY!

how's the moderating treatin' ya?

It's given me a whole new perspective on DU and the progressive movement in General. If this could be a paying job, I would be in Nirvana.

the bastards flout energy conservation in your face and are a symbol for everything that is wrong about America - they make me sick

There's one on this board. :eyes:

ANYONE

is about the same as my stereotype of Mustang drivers...I can't help but think "asshole". (And drivers of Hummers and Mustangs, at least in my part of the world, have, as a group, the worst road manners and greatest disregard for other vehicles on the road, so I have some basis for the stereotype).

Not to mention that it's ugly,ridiculously oversized for what it is, and hideously inefficient (you can get a vehicle that will transport the same number of passengers, with the same amount of cargo room, that goes twice as far on a gallon of gasoline).

As to age, race, and income class: Upper middle-class, white, mid-to-late forties (although not always; I've seen a few non-white people driving Hummers).

Once I saw his tiny Pakistani mother driving it alone and I just burst into laughter.

going public. I still recall the day he was publicizing them for the company--by stating publicly he owned one himself. I wanted to vomit. (Maybe I did). :puke:

Anyway, when the buzz started that he was going to run for Gov.,that was one of my platforms against his run--how little regard he has for the environment by driving one and advertising for the company. Sadly no one that I spoke to about this seemed to even recall how he 'initiated' the Hummer craze...

:(

Everytime I see one, I think that the driver is trying to be a Schwarzenegger "tough guy." But it has the opposite effect--makes them look like big wusses.

unless its a crappy one...

And not bright when making expensive purchases. Either they are worried they will get in an accident or that they will be seen as not having the most extravagant vehicle. It's a real vanity purchase.

I pity them, they're fools to be driving around in that ridiculous vehicle. Here's why it's ridiculous - Other SUVs hold as many if not more people, other SUVs have more cargo space, other SUVs have been proven more reliable, you can get a Mercedes, BMW or even a Porsche SUV for cryin out loud - if you need the braggin' rights...and yes, other SUVs get better gas mileage - it is just a poor choice of expensive vehicle.

I live in exurbia - the land of SUVs - I drive an Infiniti M45 - not exactly green (I get 21 miles a gallon combined), but fun and reliable, I suppose an SUV has a better image than a minivan - we used to have a Toyota Sienna mini-van, we now have a VW Passat Station Wagon that gets only about 20 miles a gallon. I understand the desire to have three rows of seats, I understand the desire to seat 7. It's just that the Hummer is the worst choice on the market to achieve these goals. Very few Hummers where I live, it's just not a smart choice, most SUVs around here are Toyotas, Jeeps, Beemers, Benzes and Fords......

I swear to God, every single one I've seen is driven by one person.

As far as other SUVs go, many of them have the "Support the Troops" ribbons, the irony lost on them.

I remember one time in particular where the Expedition in front of me had a "Never Forget" mural on their rear windshield depicting the Twin Towers, etc., along with a sticker mentioning they belonged to the NYPD.

Again, the irony was REALLY lost on them.

These assholes can't buy a friend I guess?? It's not stupid looking enough to be driving around in an ostentatious army tank, you have to be ALONE in it too?

I saw a guy trying to park one of these once around the Bev Center it was major LOL time....

when you're paying $100 to fill up the Dickmobile.

And they vote for Chimpy McCokespoon, too.
And what REALLY pisses me off about them is when they have the name of a business on the window in die-cut vinyl letters, like "Bambi's Balloon Bouquets", or "Ace Accounting"..

What, you need an assault vehicle to carry that turbocharged Addler?

I feel like going up to one of hese limp-dicks and saying "Can I take your Humma for a ride? No? Why not? With the tax write-off you got leasing this for your 'business', I fucking helped PAY FOR IT!!!!"

I try not to be too judgmental over what people are driving..people drive what they can afford, what they're comfortable in, what fits their lifestyle. If they want to shell out the $$ for a vehicle that many would call unattractive and the $$ for the gas it takes to get them from pt A to pt B..then I don't it's smart at all and they obviously don't have very much environmental regard, but all the foolish things we do as a society are relative right?
Some people work further away from home than would be the ideologically pure thing to do, some people go cruising in their vehicles without errand or purpose, some people never walk anywhere..

I drive a small SUV and I'll tell you why I do--I learned how to drive and spent my first years driving on a small truck (my small SUV gets 16 mpg and the truck also gets 16 mpg though the drivers of trucks never seem to recieve the same amount of criticism as the SUV drivers?) The feel of the SUV is similar to that of the small truck that I am used to driving..therefore I am comfortable driving in it and feel that I drive safer because of this comfort level. Though, this is the lowest mpg vehicle that I'd ever be willing to drive and I am lusting over someday being able to own a hybrid-version.

they are compensating for low self-esteem or a tiny penis.
As contemptible as they are, we are expecting the impossible of them. How can anyone expect the socially retarded to have a social conscience?

and want to look cool.


morans.

drive down a paved road. How often do you think those things actually hit the dirt?

Is my stereotype of Hummer drivers.

Bushbots!

But most of the times I've seen anyone driving a Hummer (around here, anyway), there's often at least one of those square, black "W: The President" or white, oval "Bush/Cheney 04" decals on the back, so my first instinct is usually proven correct. The really mind-boggling thing, as some others have noted here, is that much of the time there's only one person in the car!


Full disclaimer: I bought a Jeep Wrangler way back in '91, before SUVs took over America, and it gets 17 city/20 highway. It still runs like a top and has close to 190,000 miles on it--my dad has had it for the past ten years and usually uses it as his hunting/fishing vehicle. My current car gets 26 city/30-31 highway, and I'm looking at buying a scooter this year partially because the one I'm looking at gets around 55-60mpg, iirc, and partially because I've loved motorcycles for a long time but never actually owned one.

since they don't give a damn about the environment...and of course because bastards are not cheap!