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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:30 PM
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Gone w/ the Wind is on TNT ...
It's is soooooooooo cheesy!!!

Don't get me wrong, it's a great film but it still cracks me up. Ol' Aunt Pitty-Pat always faintin'.

Scarlett is just a big ol' ho!
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:33 PM
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1. I'm actually one of the few people who hated that film....
I will probably be stoned for saying it. To me it was just one big soap opera.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:33 PM
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2. Every time I see the big kissing scene
I'm reminded that Clark Gable had a really bad problem with halitosis. Poor Vivien Leigh. x(
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:46 PM
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3. ewww!
But I love the part when Butterfly McQueen tells Ret, "Miss Mellie had her baby ....... Miss Scarlett and me brung in it .... well it was mostly me, Miss Scarlett helped a little."

I just love Miss Butterfly McQueen.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:48 PM
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4. you have to remember this film was made in the 30's
and therefore imo is one of the greatest films of all times...and the great scenes...hati mc danials in the carriage and just about everytime you see her in the film...and butterfly mcqueen...just perfection...and the staircase at 12 oaks is worth seeing the movie for.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:48 PM
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10. I didn't see this film until 1976
and the whole time I was amazed that it has stood up to time.

We saw it in a little theater in Atascadero, CA. My mom, my brother and I. They showed it with a 15 minute intermission.

This film was released the year my mom was born.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:48 PM
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5. Thank you!
Looooveee that film. Love the book more.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:54 PM
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6. Hated that movie - Scarlett O'Hara was the whinist bitch..
..Clark Gable should have ditched her ass ages ago in that movie. Unless he was that pussy-whipped
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:58 PM
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7. "But I don't know nothin' bout birthin' no babies!"
Miss Prissy, Marvelous Butterfly McQueen!

The Butterfly McQueen you saw on the screen was the Butterfly McQueen I got to know briefly in the late 60's. She talked and acted exactly like that, fluttering around, just like a butterfly. Only she whe was educated and intelligent. She studied and loved history. What a wonderful soul. I loved her then and I still do. I thought she was going to adopt me.

When I asked her how she was treated by the others on the set of GWTW, considering the time and place and the role she played in that movie, she said that Clark Gable, in particular, took her under his wing, and that all the others were very kind to her. How could anybody not have been with somebody like her? She radiated boundless tenderness, goodness, honesty and generosity.

She still got occasional roles in films and plays, and she was a dedicated social activist in Harlem for decades. I know that she is resting in peace.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:46 PM
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9. What a great story.
What a honor to have know Miss McQueen. She was a true elegant lady. She seemed like a person you would just want to hug.

Thanks for sharing.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:09 PM
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8. Worst movie EVER...who cares about some whiney slave owners?
Atlanta burning was the only good scene in that movie!!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:49 PM
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11. That how I feel about those fucking Star Wars movies.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:50 PM
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12. I never liked the casting in that movie
Maybe because I'd read the book several times before ever seeing it. Still, Leslie Howard never worked for me as Ashley Wilkes. And Vivian Leigh wasn't right either, somehow.

Overdone, overacted and of course ridiculously slanted in its view of the "faithful" servants and the "bad" blacks (the ones who had the nerve to leave slavery) and northerners - still fun to watch.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:05 PM
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14. I should read the book.
Some of the things in the movie just get me. The little girls fanning the sleeping women at 12 Oaks. Good god.

But that's the way it was back then. I also understand people that say this movie sugar coated the era.

Years ago I was at a friends house when I lived in San Francisco and we were watching the movie. This one guy (who was white) just went on and on and on about the racisim of the film and how we should be ashamed to watch it. This other friend of mine (who was black) was busting up over the movie and how this guy was throwing a fit.

People have different reaction to this film. I enjoy it for the acting and the story. Yeah it's over the top. But it still stands up to this day as a great film.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:38 PM
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16. That's the thing--it's just a *movie*. Plus, Hattie and Butterfly got paid
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:40 PM by tjdee
.

First of all, that film employed lots of blacks (probably much cheaper)--and as Hattie McDaniel said, "I'd much rather play a maid than be one." So for that alone, hating as I do the casting issues regarding minorities, GWTW is fantabulous with me.

Also, it's just so irritating when people get hung up on the racism issues. It is a story, just like any other. In this story, southerners are fantastic, blacks want to be slaves, etc. etc. Fine. This is no different from every other film, where you have to accept the boundaries and settings as presented. Accept those parameters, and then watch the *story*.

It's a pretty compelling story about a woman who is used to being coddled and adored, forced to deal with the ravages of war and growing the fuck up. To my memory, it remains the only epic/grand scale story with a female heroine to do extraordinarily well at the Box Office. Except for possibly The Color Purple...

Btw, read the book. It's much better and the ending makes much more sense (in the film I was like..."when did she start caring about Tara?"). It really does go overboard with the slavery issue and how black people loved being slaves, but it is an incredibly easy read.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:00 PM
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18. Hattie also won the Oscar.
and it wasn't until Whoopie Goldberg won that another black actress won the Oscar.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:26 PM
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21. Yup--so I'm all for Gone With the Wind.
I think it's frigging fantastic!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:51 PM
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23. It's one of my favorites.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:22 PM
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19. i can't imagine better casting and i have seen the movie at least
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 04:36 PM by ooglymoogly
ten times and read the book twice...margaret mitchell thought the houses in the movie were too grand...but if i recollect correctly, loved the casting. rhett was her very own scoundrel in her life that she made into a paragon of honesty in her book. the book was based very loosely on her life transplanted to the old south in a romance novel. don't forget the 30's was a period of overacting when it was fashionable to swoon onto the first comfortable place to sink. how many other movies from that period can stand up as well as this film? it was a romantic view of the best of the old south.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:29 PM
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22. Vivien is too pretty, is the complaint I hear a lot.
All the women I know who've read the book and seen the film say that.
And, the first line *is* "Scarlett O'Hara wasn't beautiful..."

I think Ashley is a bit frail in the film, but other than that I'd agree with Mitchell that overall the cast was fantastic,etc.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:57 PM
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24. Ashley is a bit frail? LOL. He is a bit old. Wasn't he like 45?
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:00 PM
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13. I actually just got the DVD special edition box set.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:03 PM by El Fuego
I like it because my mother loved it so much (the glory of the South was her favorite theme.) It just fascinates me that it was made in 1939!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:25 PM
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15. What are the extras?
I want to get the DVD set too.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:53 PM
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17. There's two discs of bonus features
They are:

"The Making of a Legend: Gone with the Wind" (long documentary)

"Gable: The King Remembered"

"Vivian Leigh: Scarlett and Beyond"

"Reflections of Olivia DeHavilland"

"Restoring a Legend"

1939 Atlanta premiere newsreel

1961 Civil War centennial newsreeel

1940 historical short subject "The Old South"

and a bunch of trailers

and documentaries about the supporting cast.

Whew! It's going to take me a while to watch the whole thing! :hi:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:30 PM
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20. I've never seen the whole movie
It's my sister's fave and I have watched bits and pieces of it but I think it's sooooo boring.
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