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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:57 AM
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"If" by Rudyard Kipling
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 01:08 AM by AlienGirl
"If"

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

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I think of this poem as a good credo (even if it's a bit dated and sexist). It's pulled me through more than one disaster.

Tonight I was thinking of it again, and it occurred to me that Andy lived up to this credo better than almost anyone I know.

Tucker
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:25 AM
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1. Thank you so very much for this.
I don't remember ever seeing the whole poem.
I am printing it. - here is one of my favorites.

WHO hath desired the Sea?—the sight of salt water unbounded—
The heave and the halt and the hurl and the crash of the comber wind-hounded?
The sleek-barrelled swell before storm, grey, foamless, enormous, and growing—
Stark calm on the lap of the Line or the crazy-eyed hurricane blowing—
His Sea in no showing the same—his Sea and the same ’neath each showing:
            His Sea as she slackens or thrills?
So and no otherwise—so and no otherwise—hillmen desire their Hills!

Who hath desired the Sea?—the immense and contemptuous surges?
The shudder, the stumble, the swerve, as the star-stabbing bowsprit emerges?
The orderly clouds of the Trades, the ridged, roaring sapphire thereunder—
Unheralded cliff-haunting flaws and the headsail’s low-volleying thunder—
His Sea in no wonder the same—his Sea and the same through each wonder:
            His Sea as she rages or stills?
So and no otherwise—so and no otherwise—hillmen desire their Hills.

Who hath desired the Sea? Her menaces swift as her mercies?
The in-rolling walls of the fog and the silver-winged breeze that disperses?
The unstable mined berg going South and the calvings and groans that declare it
White water half-guessed overside and the moon breaking timely to bare it;
His Sea as his fathers have dared-his Sea as his children shall dare it:—
            His Sea as she serves him or kills?
So and no otherwise—so and no otherwise—hillmen desire their Hills.

Who hath desired the Sea? Her excellent loneliness rather
Than forecourts of kings, and tier outermost pits than the streets where men gather
Inland, among dust, under trees—inland where the slayer may slay him—
Inland, out of reach of her arms, and the bosom whereon he must lay him—
His Sea from the first that betrayed—at the last that shall never betray him:
            His Sea that his being fulfils?
So and no otherwise—so and no otherwise—hillmen desire their Hills.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:32 AM
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2. I like that poem, I received it one year from my dad.
Funny thing was, one year I was talking poetry to a teacher who was at the pool I was lifeguard at and she said she hated it because it was sexist. this was in 1989 so maybe things were a bit different but I always thought it was odd. Maybe Kipling was sexist in general but I never got that from the poem.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:33 AM
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3. Well, Kipling was a product of his time
and, so, sexist and racist. But even though it's about being "a man" I can appreciate it as being about being a strong person, no gender intended.

Tucker
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