Is life a right or a privilege?

(I'm expanding on a reply post I recently made)

The pro-lifers say life is a right.

Our medical industry and society in general seem to be acting as if it were a privilege; work under their way only.

They want it a right so more slave-class people can be brought into this sleazy hell-hole they created (and the public has allowed so far).

But when it comes to longevity and care, it costs so much that people can't afford it. As repukes and such say that everything beyond necessity is a luxury or privilege, we must conclude that health care is a privilege. A big one.

Even local newscasts had articles sponsored by HMOs blithering about the topic of "prevention" (yeah, that's real news - NOT!)

Hell, we should all be immortal and indestructible. I want to see the medical industry burn in flames. Their motto and plan for America must surely be "Don't get sick".

Sorry mods, I've done it again - please move to GD. Thanks.

ah you get it. It is a right.

We all have the right to life, liberty, and the (property) pursuit of happiness. People aren't allowed to take these from you, and you have them without having to take life, liberty, or the (property) pursuit of happiness from someone else.

As much as I'd like universal health care, I don't believe it is a "right" because you have to take someone else's life, liberty, or (property)pursuit of happiness in order to have it. That doesn't mean that providing universal health care is not the right thing to do.

That people should have to go bankrupt or live in a condition where death would have been preferable just because someone within the status quo maneuvered the system greatly toward his benefit and wasn't humane enough to think of the SOCIETY that allowed him to get all that 'happiness'. I mean, not everybody who makes $40k/yr can afford a $250,000 heart operation. With that much debt, I'd rather be dead. Heck, my own debt is currently about 1/10th of that and I've thought of suicide plenty of times as it is.

Money is still the root of all evil, even if that is a 60s concept. And they were vaguely right about computers too...

Healthcare is a part of life. Without it we'd be livin' a lot less. So, it is a right.

Maybe, you live in an expensive area but really a single guy like you with a decent paying job shouldn't be that concerned over that amount of debt. Of course, I don't know about your particuliar situation, but I know low income families with more debt than that.
It is unfortunate that many people do take on a lot of medical debt. You shouldn't have to sacrafice everything to save your life. That is the problem with market based health care. If economics really operates due to pure selfishness, everyone is willing to sacrafice everything for their life whether they be a billionaire or no income homeless person. Yes, people making $40,000 per year get six figure medical care and pay on it for a long time. I've heard a few cases of non profit hospitals that take their mission seriously, forgiving large portions of the debt, but that is probably occurring less and less. I've never been charged interest on medical bills, but some hospitals probably do.

and as such ours to do with as we see fit... for ourselves that is.

dough, etc, you have determines how long you live. The more
privileged you are, the chances of you seeing advanced old
age seem higher. Check the third world birth stats.

try and reason with an angry bear that he shouldn't eat you because you have a right to life, or discuss with the sea that you shouldn't drown because you have a right to life.

You have no right to life.

How can THAT be? :shrug:

If there are any rights, life is a right. We believe in rights in America. For some reason, the cost of health care has risen out of control. Perhaps, that's the cost of progress, but I think that it is un fair for profit to be involved. I'm not saying that doctor's shouldn't make a six figure salary. I'm saying hospitals and health insurance should be non profit organizations. Life is valued to a person above all things and therefore should be preferably not subject to normal market capitalism.

It is a forced state. You are not able to choose whether or not you are born. Instead, you are thrust into the world by decree of your parents. THEY choose whether you live or not. The life doesn't get a choice.

I know a lot of people who, if given the option of existing or not existing at all would have said no thank you. Who are we to say whether or not something unaware of its own existence wants to live or die?

If life is a right, should you also affirm that death is a right?