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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:19 PM
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My best local male friend just told me he was dying from AIDS
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 11:20 PM by khephra
I'm a bit out of it
(no sex w me))
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:20 PM
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1. Oh my God!
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:21 PM
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2. Holy shit!
What about treatment?
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:21 PM
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3. Death
I'm sorry to hear that. It's really sad.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:22 PM
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4. Gah...life has a nasty habit of blindsiding us.
I'm really sorry to hear that. Damn...
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:23 PM
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5. So sorry, Kheph.
How long does he have?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:23 PM
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6. I'm so sorry to hear
At least he has a good friend (you) to lean on/confide in.

All the best,

av8rdave
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:24 PM
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7. such terrible news...
hopefully he has access to some of the medications that have slowed the development of the condition.

My heart goes out to him, and to all whose lives he has touched (esp you Keph.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:29 PM
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8. Oh geez, kef...that's hard.
I've been there a few times with my friends. It's so hard, for them and for you. If there's no hope for a turnaround, then just love him. That's all...just care for him with love.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:30 PM
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9. So sorry Kheph.....
....that is beyond sad news...my heart goes out to you and your friend.:pals:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:30 PM
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10. Oh Kheph
I'm so, so sorry to hear this. Stay strong. :hug:
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:36 PM
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11. So Sorry...
I have quite a few gay friends...I hate to say it but I do worry for them.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:37 PM
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12. Does he not have access to medication?
Or has his immune system already deteriorated that severely? I have a friend who has been positive for well over 20 years. I really wish your friend well. It can be hellacious and extremely painful to help a friend die.
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:40 PM
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13. Kef
I am so sorry...this is so hard--

Thinking of you,

Stephanie
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kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:42 PM
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14. Sadly...
I've been told this way too many times... Lost too many friends... Goddamn disease pisses me off...

Best advice I can offer... Be his friend, listen to him, tell him things you need to tell him, cry with him, get mad with him, hold him.

And, make sure you have a friend you can do the same with to help you through it.

My heart and thoughts are with you...
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:04 AM
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17. sorry to hear that
Your friend can live many years with good medication
and caring for himself well.

Life is short anyway you look at it, make the best of the
time you have, live in love and make life beautiful.
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:03 AM
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15. Is he dying from or living with
AIDS?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 09:47 AM
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27. Thank you
AIDS is not a guaranteed death sentence these days. He is living with it, I hope. Sorry to hear this Keph; I'm sure you will do what you can to support him.
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:04 AM
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16. So sorry kef!
That is very sad, I am sure he needs your friendship now more than ever.

:loveya:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:17 AM
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18. Keph
It was exactly one year ago today that I started helping my brother to die from AIDS. If your friend has not waited too long get him to go to the doctor now and get his viral load checked and type this sucker. My brothers viral load was very high but his virus was virgin. We got the AIDS under control very quickly but he already had advanced AIDS related lymphoma so after a month he was gone. There is so much hope with these drugs, they act so quickly. Please get him to go if he hasn't. If he has then the choice is his. I learned a lot about this, I learned how to help them to die. I am serious when I tell you to PM me if you need. It is often a difficult death and he will need you.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:35 AM
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19. You must be a good friend.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 06:39 AM by Festivito
Hope you can still hang out, talk, and enjoy each other during however much time life gives.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:52 AM
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20. Even with the new cocktail drugs?
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:30 AM
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21. My sympathies, Kef.
I lost a dear childhood friend to "complications from HIV" in September. He'd had it for over ten years but never told anyone until just before. I miss him so much.

At his funeral, his sister and I sat in the corner and talked about how angry we are at him for being so careless with his life and most importantly, for not telling us sooner. He left many devasted people behind, more than he knew.

Near the end, they tried cocktail drugs, etc. but it was too late. He was fighting both viral and bacterial pneumonia when he died.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:41 AM
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22. Do you know your friend was careless?
And, even if he was, is anger a fair response? Many careless people don't get AIDS; your friend was one of the unlucky ones. He is no worse than those who were careless and escaped AIDS.

I would like to add that he made a choice to keep his illness a secret, so you have to assume that he was more comfortable living that way than with having people know about it.

I am sorry for your loss, but please give up anger and remember him with love.

Kephra, I am sorry to learn about your friend, too. I hope the current treatment options will help him live with AIDS for a long time.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:44 AM
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24. Anger
is one of the initial stages of grief and a completely normal and reasonable emotion to experience at the loss of those we love.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:22 PM
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28. Thanks, SOteric
I appreciate the support. You're absolutely correct, anger is one of the stages of grief. Instead of holding it in, I "tell him" how I feel.

He was careless, I used to shake my head about it, talk to him, etc. He knew what he was doing.... Whatever. I miss him. He made me laugh like no one else -- and I know he would be there like no one else. He was a very special person.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:43 AM
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23. I am sorry to hear that
Be strong

DDQM
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oxymoron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 09:34 AM
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25. My brother has been living with this disease for 10 years...
And I have lost many of my friends to this scourge over the years. Is your friend unable to get medications? Is he taking advantage of community support? Where does he live? PM me if you need some referrals.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 09:36 AM
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26. very sorry to hear that Kheph
:hug:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:27 PM
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29. I'm so very sorry.
I hope that the time you've left to spend with one another is fulfilling and that you both know peace.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:38 PM
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30. So sorry to hear that Kef.
I'll be thinking of your friend and you, I know how tough this must be.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:15 PM
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31. Thank you all for your support!
I'm sorry I'm not able to give many of the specifics, as I wasn't given many of them. And I'm sorry that I didn't responds again after posting this thread, which I'm sure worried a few of you.

I've spend the past couple of days walking around in a fog, crying off and on the entire time. I THINK I'll be able to help him during this period of his life, but it is going to be very hard.

Love ya all and thank you for being there!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:18 PM
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32. I'm here if you ever need a shoulder Kheph
:loveya:
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