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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:06 PM
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The movie "AI"
holy shit is it depressing. i like the automatronic teddy bear, "Teddy"<---------Real original. he is the only redeeming part so far. I'm sure he will be shut down before the end and I will be sad about that too.:cry:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:08 PM
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1. Excellent movie
Note that the actor cast as the father is a dead ringer for a young Steven Spielberg. This is not an accident.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:11 PM
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5. omg! I didn't realize that!
FREAKY!!!

I, too, also loved the movie. Brilliant, even with the choppy ending :hi:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:08 PM
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2. I thought it sucked...........
and not because it made me sad, it made me angry that I wasted $2.99 to rent that turkey.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:12 PM
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7. I agree; it was entirely over-hyped
Kubrick and Spielberg; fine on their own, but what an awful combination!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:09 PM
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3. It was okay
Would have been much better if Kubrick had lived to make it.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:22 PM
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11. bingo
thought it was pretty good, choked me up a couple of times, but you can't help but wonder what it would have been under kubrick's direction (without the SPIELBERG touch)
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:37 PM
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17. Would it?
You can't polish a terd.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:46 PM
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23. You can if you freeze it.
Said by the great SK himself...
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:52 PM
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27. Kubrick is love or hate with me
Love: Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove, The Shining

Hate: Space Odessey (yawn), Clockwork Orange
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:10 PM
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4. You'll be there for a while.
SO lonnnnnggggg.... you think it'll end one place, it ends somewhere completely differently.

Same thing with Minority Report or whatever. Spielberg had a spate of films there that dragged on and tried to be clever by going way off the beaten path of the story.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:14 PM
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8. I'm on my second break right now.
:hi:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:29 PM
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14. My understanding is that the ending was Kubrick's idea....
..so it's not really fair to blame Spielberg on that score.

Even so, it was a good movie.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:35 PM
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16. The whole thing reeks of Kubrick
Don't get me wrong I love Kubrick,the sub-theme of the whole "being alone" is what is so depressing. Isolation is a theme found throughout Kubrick's films.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:12 PM
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6. I had looked forward to that movie.
Went to see it and thought what a piece of crap. I didnt care about the kid by the end of the movie, I just wanted it to be over.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:18 PM
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9. In ten years, A.I. will be regarded as a science fiction masterpiece
A la "Blade Runner." Mark my words.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:20 PM
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10. Marking
I'll come back and check the archives in ten years.;)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:38 PM
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19. No it won't. Except, perhaps, by the illiterati
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:23 PM
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12. I liked it...........
I saw it as a cautionary tale about making machines too smart or too human. Much more subtle than "The Terminator", but the message is the same. I also liked how it pointed out the transitory and fickle side of human nature, best exemplified in the Mom character.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:26 PM
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13. I saw it not as the dangers...
but the responsibilities of playing god (or even being a god)
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:32 PM
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15. That's what I mean exactly......
Creating a self-aware organism when we haven't got the vagaries of our own existence and moralities sorted out yet.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:37 PM
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18. The first ending was okay, the second one was trite, and the third
(and thank God, finally the final) ending was typical Spielbergian "this is how you should feel now" crass manipulation of the viewer, as well as utterly vapid, ignorant, and unneccessary.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:39 PM
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20. Yeah
Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan were total crapola. Why does Speilberg have to ruin EVERYTHING!

(Sarcasm off)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:42 PM
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22. How bizarre.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:42 PM by Rabrrrrrr
I didn't mention either of those movies at all.

Perhaps there are magical, invisible words I said that I can't see nor remember writing, that you feel a need to comment on.

:shrug:
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:49 PM
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25. No
But you are a persistent Speilberg basher, for whatever reason. And the phrase Spielbergian, which you did use, would cause one to believe you are lumping all his films into one category i.e. crass, vapid etc.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:52 PM
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26. I used the word "typical", not "every",
and the terms vapid and crass were used in reference to the third (and final) ending of the movie.

And yes, I am a persistent Spielberg basher, which bashing is well-deserved overall, but I do not bash everything he does. He HAS put out some good ones.

hence my use of the word "typical". Or, at other times, I will use the words "usual", "standard", "regular".

But I never say "all" or "every" when it comes to Spielberg.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:54 PM
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28. Thanks for the clarification
Incidentally, this movie would have been crapola had Kubrick finished it IMO. Potentially worse. Of course all of this is subjective.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:02 PM
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30. Except the last ending was written by Kubrick....
That was how he wanted the movie to end.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:10 PM
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32. THANK YOU!
Everyone says "Spielberg ruined the ending," despite the fact Kubrick made storyboards of the bloody thing.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:17 PM
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33. Well, then either Kubrick didn't do it well,
or Spielberg didn't do it well.

I like the *concept* of the final ending, but I didn't like how it was done and how it was presented and led up to.

So, I don't know whose fault it was now, so I'll blame them both.

Even the greats like Kubrick do the occasional boneheaded thing. Still, I put my money that the problem was Spielberg's interpretation of the ending Kubrick wrote.

Difficult to know, though.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:40 PM
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21. Why would you post in the middle of a film?
Why not watch the whole film and then comment?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:56 PM
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29. Because it's 74 hours long.
n/t
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:21 PM
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34. Um - nuh uh!
KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park: 1:36
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9MXxmYj11fHBuPTB8cT1raXNzIHBoYW50b218aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=21;fm=1
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:46 PM
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24. What a fucking bad movie.
One of the many reasons I don't consider Spielberg a great director any longer.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:03 PM
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31. one of the saddest i've ever seen...
:cry:
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