Ketchup or Catsup? - Democratic Underground

thermodynamic

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Tue Jul-22-03 06:31 PM
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Ketchup or Catsup?

Ketchup, of course!

Unless the British call it "catsup" in which case I'll change my mind! :-)

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Runesong

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Tue Jul-22-03 06:36 PM
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1. Oh, the burning issues of the day! :)

Methinks it's only spelled with a K in states whose names begin with a K?

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JVS

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Tue Jul-22-03 07:00 PM
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4. No

Ketchup in Pennsylvania, home of Heinz Ketchup!

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alphafemale

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Tue Jul-22-03 07:42 PM
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6. Heinz is the only worthy Ketchup

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flamingyouth

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Tue Jul-22-03 06:41 PM
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2. Ketchup

But Canadian husband used to refer to it as "catsup."

He still talks about his "shedule," tho...

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baffie

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Tue Jul-22-03 06:56 PM
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3. Neither. It's "kepchup"

;)

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SOteric

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Tue Jul-22-03 07:00 PM
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5. Catsup

And if you really want an authority, the British won't be a good choice. It isn't an English word, its a Chinese word.

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Kellanved

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Tue Jul-22-03 07:46 PM
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7. malay

If I am not mistaken.

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SOteric

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Tue Jul-22-03 07:55 PM
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8. Apparently, we're both right:

"...Nobody seems quite sure where it comes from, and I won’t bore you with a long disquisition concerning the scholarly debate on the matter, which is reflected in the varied origins given in major dictionaries. It’s likely to be from a Chinese dialect, imported into English through Malay..."

http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-ket2.htm

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ForrestGump

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Tue Jul-22-03 09:47 PM
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13. But didn't the original versions,

that supposedly have almost nothing in common with today's ketchup (tha's right, darnit, I said 'ketchup'!), have a fish base, or a strong fish component?

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SOteric

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Tue Jul-22-03 10:34 PM
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15. Forrest, buddy

Kellanved and I are talking about the origins of the word, not the evolution of the recipe.

But yes, the original recipe was a kind of oriental fish sauce, albeit more complex than the current Tiparoos so popular in Thai cuisine.

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ForrestGump

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Wed Jul-23-03 09:44 AM
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16. Then you're both wrong....

It's obviously an etymology born of the Deep South, a contraction of the common term "catfish's up!" heard even today in Mississippi restaurants.

Or am I just playing ketch up?

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SOteric

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Wed Jul-23-03 09:51 AM
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17. Playing 'ketch up?'

You may, oh my. But you obviously can't cut the mustard in the condiment game, and I don't relish having to hear your attempts.

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ForrestGump

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Wed Jul-23-03 10:56 AM
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18. (Oh no. And so it begins)

Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 10:56 AM by ForrestGump

Lady, I poupon your attitude! Your asalt on me, peppering your response with condiments, was just wrong - a pile of horseradish. Dijon know that? Yeah, you know that; and you're in a real picklenow, huh? Go join the Piccalili Circus and stop gherkin me around!

I've got sal, sa there.

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leftist_rebel1569

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Tue Jul-22-03 08:41 PM
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9. Ketchup

No doubt

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Skip Intro

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Tue Jul-22-03 08:43 PM
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10. And no one's givin' an inch

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arwalden

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Tue Jul-22-03 08:44 PM
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11. Please explain Green and Purple Ketchup?!?

I don't get it.

-- Allen

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thermodynamic

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Tue Jul-22-03 09:46 PM
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12. Two explanations

1. The wacky colors gross out the parents, who are (a) dumb enough to buy it for their kids and (b) even more dumb to watch the kids put it on their food and then proceed to eat it. :eyes:

2. It's ketchup/catsup/red sugary liquid tinted with special food colorings and priced ridiculously high because it's a funtime kiddie treat! Child exploitation, no less...

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arwalden

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Tue Jul-22-03 09:48 PM
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14. I think both explanations are valid... but I like the "dumb parents"...

one the best.

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