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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:43 PM
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Opinion of the Iraq War series 'Over There'
Anyone have an opinion of this show?
http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/overthere/main.html

Looks like it could turn out to be halfway decent. However, it could also turn out to be a total piece of propeganda.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:47 PM
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1. they talked about it on Fresh Air
this past week, and played some clips from the first show. In that clip, there was a sergeant talking to green troops who were pinned down by fire from a mosque. The sergeant was saying how it was a shame they couldn't blow up the mosque, but that it wouldn't "look good". The tone of voice was contemptuous and made me feel really uncomfortable, because it seemed to imply a contempt for all Iraqis and implied that Islam is a front for terrorists. I don't get the network, so I won't be able to watch it, so I won't know if it balances out or not. The producer, who was being interviewed, said that the series was apolitical, but the scene aired seemed to me to be very political.

Hope some who see the series let us who can't watch it know what it is really like.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:38 PM
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5. On the other hand, they're being shot at from a Mosque because the
shooters know it'll be a massively political mistake to bomb a mosque ( even though it's been done before )

What the show fails to point out is that the troops should've never been there in the first place, and in that light such an argument is moot.

Personally, if I were over there and my squad was being shot at I'd have that mosque turned to rubble in a heartbeat. Sorry, that's the way it is.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:00 PM
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6. I realize that
churches have been destroyed for the same reason. It wasn't that part that bothered me as much as the tone of the sergeant's voice-the contempt that, I feared, might have spilled over from this one incident to include all mosques anywhere. Like I said, I just heard this one clip and perhaps the series doesn't go this way. That's why I said, and say again, that this was strictly my take on the scene, and that I would appreciate hearing from those who have seen the entire episode(s).
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:47 PM
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2. at it's present course, the director and producer are going to come
under extreme pressure from repugs.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:53 PM
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3. The commercial I saw had a part about trying to decide whether to
fire on a car approaching a checkpoint because there was a kid in the car.

I think they're going to come under A LOT of pressure for humanizing the enemy.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:54 PM
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4. the 5 minutes I saw was enough for me
a group of GI's were in a fire fight in the middle of a dust storm and the Iraqi fighters were just standing out in the open letting the Americans gun them down, and then the Americans charged them with one charecter saying "we didn't come here to take your oil, we came here to kick your ass".

The fight scenes reminded me of WW2 movies where the Germans are portrayed as dumb shits who don't know how to take cover and the dialog about kicking ass sounds like it came from a WWF TV script.

War as entertainment. It's the American way.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:16 PM
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7. I haven't seen it
But the idea of making a show about a war in progress makes me uncomfortable. That's why war movies for the most part (at least the good ones) tend to be made several years, if not decades, after the event - because only with distance can you gain at least some level of objectivity.
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