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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:02 PM
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U.S. judge orders shutdown of Canada drugs firm
A federal judge granted the government's request Thursday to shut down a company, operating as Rx Depot and Rx of Canada, that helps customers buy cheaper prescription drugs from Canada.
http://www.healthtalk.ca/prescription_drugs.htm
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:09 PM
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1. WTF???
Just yesterday I bought from canadadrugs.com some inexpensive blood glucose test strips that you can't even buy at drug stores in the U.S. This was the first time I've ever used the Canadian approach. I'd like to be able to continue. Health care is a non-partisan issue for voters, and crap like this isn't going to help the chimp.
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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:13 PM
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2. The mayor of springfield Mass said
that this issue is bigger than the war on terror, homeland security, etc. His city was the first to purchase drugs from canada for its employees. He also says the FDA and the Bush gov is telling lies about safety issues around buying drugs from canada...it could take W down, and it should be something Dem's pay attention to...
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:18 PM
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3. Safety issues
Are a lot of Canadians getting sick from their drugs or shomething? Or is it safety issues as in big pharma possibly losing some profits?
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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:23 PM
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4. It's about profit
One woman in Springfield Mass is buying medicine is recovering from breast cancer, in order to make sure it doesn't come back, she needs a prescription. In Canada, the prescription costs her $200 per year. At home, in the U.S. the same medicine costs $1200 per year!

She said she will go to jail if she has to, in order to make a point. She is 76 years old, and very upset with the government!
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:27 PM
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22. You could get "Claritin"in canada at half the cost.
If you think American made drugs aren't the major players in foreign lands, you are sleeping at the wheel.
There are only a couple of drug companies who have bought out everyone else. They are forced by law to sell the same drugs we take here cheaper in canada, england, france etc.
They want to continue to gouge Americans.
Damn, if the drug manufacturers just cut their ADVERTISING budget by a billion dollars, and spend it on R&D, they might come up with something like a cancer cure instead of something that makes a 90-year old have an erection and grows hair on bald people.
(a welcome relief to the "sufferers" perhaps, but I think a cancer cure is a tad bit more important.)
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celestia671 Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:28 PM
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5. What a load of BS!
The government is going to make sure that its buddies in the pharma industry are taken care of, aren't they?
My doctor prescribed Flonase to me the other day. It costs around $65 here, whereas at a Canadian site, I saw it for $35, and on an Australian site, they have equivelents that go for a lot less because it's sold over the counter there.
The greed of U.S companies has made all of these foreign sites possible so they should just leave them alone. Besides, doesn't the gov't have more important things to worry about than us saving a few extra bucks on our meds?
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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:31 PM
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7. The biggest political contributers are the drug companies...
They have power in Washington....
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:05 PM
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19. We, the taxpayers, pay for over HALF the research that leads to new drugs
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 08:16 PM by Vitruvius
and then we, as American consumers, pay the highest prices in the WORLD for those same drugs.

In addition, the majority of the drug companies' "new drug" spending goes to developing copies or near equivalents of drugs that are already successful; the drug companies are both greedy and risk-averse.

Which is why the vast majority of breakthrough drugs are the result of taxpayer supported research. Because the drug companies don't have the guts or the gumption to take risks.

Bottom line, we take the risks, we subsidize them, then they gouge us to the max.

As the biggest political contributors in Washington, the drug companies indeed have clout.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:31 PM
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8. no sh!t!
I agree, with the crap that's going on now, they shouldn't have to worry about prescription drugs. how absurd this misadministration is.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:30 PM
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6. i buy drugs from canada...
i buy zoloft from canada for $82 for a month supply (60 pills). If I were to buy that here, It would cost me $225! Isn't that ridiculous?
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:46 PM
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9. Why don't they shut down Greyhound next.
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:49 PM
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10. I just hope that every single person
who can't afford needed drugs votes against Bush next November.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:52 PM
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11. I can just see the new drug smuggling laws
Pretty soon, people who buy their medications from Canada will be charged with smuggling of controlled substances and the RWers will be suqealing with joy: "see, see, Rush wasn't doin' anythang diffn't fom thees Canoedians!":nuke:
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:00 PM
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12. And the prisons will fill up
since so many of our prisons are privatized, companies are making major bucks on the war on drugs.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:37 PM
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16. so that Halliburton can build more and more prisons
to keep this gravy train going
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:09 PM
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13. Let me get this straight
We can't buy drugs from Canada because they're unsafe but companies can go overseas to outsource software development by underpaid workers and that's no threat to our security.

Furthermore, if I were a Canadian, I'd be awfully pissed that the FDA is treating my country like some backward banana republic.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:40 PM
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14. Good point.n/t
n/t
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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:55 PM
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15. The drugs are the same in Canada as the U.S.
If your doc prescribes you a medication, and you order the med from Canada, you actually get the same drug you would have at home, except for the price.

The mayor of Springfield who started this whole thing on mass said the FDA has lowered themselves to scare tactics to scare the citizens away from buying prescriptions from Canada.

The whole thing is an attempt by big drug companies to secure their huge profits in the U.S. And by the way, it was reported on a Canadian media network that drug profits in Canada are huge too. So what does that say about the cost of manufacturing these drugs?

Prescription prices in Canada are regulated by the government, in the U.S. it's based on the free market, and we see how the free market is based on demand, and they demand outrageous prices in the U.S. all in the name of HUGE profits.

If you cannot afford the drug in the U.S. the FDA and the drug companies would rather you die, instead of making the purchase in Canada.

Now what does that tell you about the Bush war on terror?
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:00 PM
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18. On rereading my reply, I should've put quotes around "unsafe"
I know they're the same quality up north but thanks, Chuckup, for explaining that in case someone misunderstood. That's what needs to be emphasized in this debate. I bet the FDA is scaring a lot of people -- including retirees on fixed incomes -- into believing that they aren't and that's just plain slander against the Canadian system.
:mad:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 04:06 PM
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17. If I had a video camera maybe I could've sent the judge
a video of my husband hacking, wheezing and short of breath because of his emphysema because he can't afford the $300 plus it costs in American dollars for the drugs he needs.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:08 PM
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20. America the Hypocracy
So much for FREEDOM.

So much for FREE ENTERPRISE.

FUCK YOU BUSH, YOU DEMONIC LITTLE ASSHOLE YOU, AND YOUR CORPORATE BUDDIES. YOU'RE A BUNCH OF DEGENERATE FASCISTS AND I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY. x( x( x( x( x(
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:24 PM
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21. Anyone Know what Dean's stand is on Canadian Drugs?
EOM
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