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Elad ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:22 PM
Original message
One thing you're buying when you donate to DU
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 12:26 PM by elad
Me. Yes, I am up for sale, so to speak. If DU makes it's goal, I will be able to quit my full-time dayjob, which keeps me highly distracted from DU, and concentrate all of my energy on improving DU.

As the techie/programmer, you may be unaware what having a full-time elad means to you as a user of DU. Allow me to explain.

When I first came to DU I came as a regular poster looking for an anti-Bush site. I posted for a couple months, and eventually it came up that DU didn't have a programmer and there were some things that needed to be programmed. Being unemployed at the time, I happily volunteered. The initial couple of projects grew and grew, and soon became a constant flow of new features, bug fixing, and other projects. I worked for DU for free, volunteering, for about a year.

After that first year, DU had grown enough that Skinner was able to start sending me a small paycheck. By this point in time, DU had become a full-time job for me. During that first year while I was unemployed, I easily spent 70 or so hours a week, if not more, working on DU in some fashion or another, either programming or doing administrative duties. About the time Skinner started paying me part-time, I finally found a job and started working a dayjob full-time.

This has been the situation now for the past 1 1/2 years or so. I work 32 - 40 hours a week at my dayjob, and then come home and spend another 30 - 50 hours a week on DU. I've been doing this for a long time now, for only a part-time salary from DU, because I believe in DU and I want to see it succeed.

I (and the other admins, for that matter) don't post terribly frequently on the public boards, so you may not know what's going on behind the scenes or how much time, energy and work we actually put into DU on a daily basis. It may seem like we're absent a lot, but we're here everyday, all 3 of us, reading threads, dealing with situations that come up, brainstorming ideas, working on technical issues, and helping the moderators.

I can't remember the last full-day that I went without checking in on DU at least once. DU has become our lives, for better or for worse. Weekends? We don't have weekends. Sure, the office may be empty on the weekends, and we may spend less time on DU than during the weekdays, but we're still here, every weekend, checking in, making sure things are running smoothly, and dealing with any problems.

The job can be extraordinarily stressful, as well. We have to constantly field complaints telling us how crappy our website is and how biased we are towards one side or another. We have to make very tough decisions and then deal with the consequences. We're called names and belittled constantly, and not just by conservatives in the form of hatemail, but also often from people who are supposed to be on our side and are upset about something or another. Skinner, who has to deal with most of these problems, I tell ya what, sometimes I don't know how he does it. The man has the patience of a saint. I would have thrown my computer out the window months ago, screamed "SCREW IT ALL!!" and ran off to be a hermit in the mountains somewhere if I had to deal with half the BS he puts up with. :)

But anyway, back to what I was getting at... if DU makes its goal this fund drive, Skinner will finally be able to hire me full-time. What does it matter to you? Well let me tell you.

Ever get frustrated if the site's running slow? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, I'll be able to babysit the servers all-day everyday, which means I can start to identify bottlenecks in our code and improve the speed. The process takes a lot of time and there's simply no way I can gather enough data to do this when I have to work a dayjob, since I'm at work during the peak-hours when things are busy and the site slows down.

Ever get annoyed with a bug in the software and wish it'd be fixed cuz it always seems to hit ya at the most inopportune time? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, bugs will be fixed much more quickly.

Ever have a cool idea for a new feature and wish you'd be able to see it on DU? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, new features will be coming out much, much more often.

If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, not only will I be able to improve how DU runs from the technical end, fix more bugs, and add more features, but there are millions of tiny things that will get done to improve the site as well. I'll have time to add new smilies, I'll have time to finish old projects like the "Member since" date, I'll have more time to help on the administrative end and take some of the workload off of Skinner and EarlG, I'll have more time to do dozens of other little things that have been piling up in my todo list.

And all this will lead to a better DU for everyone, because then all 3 admins will be able to spend more time coming up with new ideas for the website and how we can really make an impact in 2004. Ever since DU was started, we've been building up to this: the 2004 election. Do you really want distracted, stressed out, burned out admins with piles of half-finished projects running the site this year?

None of us are getting rich off of DU. In fact, if you consider the loss of insurance and other benefits I'll take if I work for DU full-time, it could in actuality turn out to be a sorta paycut for me. And for a full-time programmer, I'm offering myself to DU at a bargain-basement price compared to the industry standard.

But if DU doesn't make its goal, I have to keep my dayjob, and much of this won't be possible. DU, the admins, and by extension ALL of you, will be that much worse off going into an election year. So please, take the time to donate. You know DU provides you with a unique service you can't find anywhere else on the internet, and if you want DU to continue to grow, evolve and become a real force that can actually make a difference in the election next year, then send in some money, it doesn't matter how much, whatever you can afford.

Thanks
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:25 PM
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1. Hell, you're a bargain at twice the price!
I urge everyone to contribute what they are able.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:31 PM
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2. Hey
My Elad is defective, can I get another?

:)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:31 PM
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3. I'm buying you?
Do you wax cars? :evilgrin:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:32 PM
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4. I am sure
you must know how much this site means to many of us. I donated, I wish I could do more. You guys are amazing and I thank you. I hope we make it. Maybe after 2004 you can take a little vacation. HA! Anyway, thanks for everything.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:34 PM
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5. elad, you've just made it easier for me to make another kick to the kitty.
I hate to see our tech-man burning all ends of the candle.

It's now a fund-drive-within-a-fund-drive. I'll make a another donation later on today.

Let's put elad on the DU payroll!

:toast:
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plainjane Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:34 PM
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6. Time out while I write a check.
Thanks, Elan, for helping me work through my technical problems.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. kick
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:01 PM
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8. I purchased a chunk of you this week
:-)

Give me an address and I'll mail you a new t-shirt too! :evilgrin:

BTW, it's a good thing admin has you for pics...you are the sexy one ;-)
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:01 PM
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9. That's a good reason to make ANOTHER donation!
If anything, people could take a look at the list of people who would like to be sponsored.

Cheers to our hard working admins!

:toast:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:10 PM
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10. Thanks Admin
I can vouch for Skinner's patience , he is a saint IMHO.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:11 PM
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11. A huge kick for Elad's full-time DU JOB!!!!!
:kick:

DemEx
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:11 PM
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12. But Elad - will you come to my home and wash my windows???
:D
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:16 PM
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13. Just sent a donation
:-)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:52 PM
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14. Kick this mutha
:kick:
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:01 PM
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15. if you want to quadruple donations
replace the Bush-head with the visage of Joe Lieberman. Know Thy Audience, as they say in showbiz.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:04 PM
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16. OOOH, an Elad of my very own!
Thanks, Santa! :D
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. actually,
I rather have his cats }(
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. I want both!
I admit it, I'm greedy!

(I'm also kicking this post)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:38 PM
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44. BE CAREFUL
I ordered my very own personal ALAN COLMES without realizing CLOTHING WAS AN ACCESSORY. Now I've gotta buy him some freaking clothes.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:35 PM
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49. That is NOT a deterrent in this case, Skittles!
Now, if it were the Ann Coulter doll, that might be different - that thing needs a burka and a ball gag!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:09 PM
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18. Another kick for elad!
:kick:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:20 PM
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19. See now....I don't know what my husband would say about that...
Oh what the heck, he doesn't post here. ;) For all the hard work you do around here elad, you're well worth the price.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:21 PM
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20. Kick
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:57 PM
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21. Kick
I will be donating in a day or two. I am feeling decidedly naked without my little star.

elad -> :yourock:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. kick
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:57 PM
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23. I donated today.
When can you stop by and rake my leaves?

:)

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:36 PM
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24. Kick up
:kick:
DemEx
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. One more...
:kick:
DemEx
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:47 PM
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26. Glad to hear it!
Kudos to you for all of your hard work.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:10 PM
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27. kick
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:11 PM
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28. so Elad, now that i "OWN" you....
i COMMAND you to come rake my leaves this weekend DAMMIT! :P


cool for you. working full time for DU and gettin PAID????

GREAT GIG! :thumbsup:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. kick
:kick:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:40 PM
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31. Another
:kick:
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:54 PM
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32. That would be good.
I'll kick in a few more bucks.
Bump for the herbivores.

:kick:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:01 PM
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33. I donated more, because you're worth it, elad!
All of you that make up DU, thank you!
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:07 PM
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34. I just made a donation in your honor.
BTW, remember when I had that great idea for a forum to announce tribute gifts? I was told ya'll might move on that after the new software was running.

I still think it's a great idea. Do you guys remember? What do you think?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:47 PM
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35. kick
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:00 PM
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36. Boy we've come a long way in growth
and I can see the full time job and then some!
Elad, I hope you can keep the DU mechanics running smoothly full time and don't get sick friend...
Thanks Skinner and Earl G.
you make DU Good for Everyone! :toast:

Look for my holiday card in the mail...;-)

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. A kick
and some hope that the goal will be reached!


:kick:
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 08:08 PM
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38. kick
:kick:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:33 AM
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39. kick
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:41 AM
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40. works for me
and another reason to thank my sponsor.

grassroots activism at its zenith: WE pay the media NOT the Bushes!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 09:26 AM
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41. Hey elad!
I donated; I very much want you to reach your goal.
(Oh, and kick.)

I guess it's possible thought that you could reach
your goal in number of donations but not in dollar
amount? Would you please keep us posted (not to
give you yet another chore, but...). If that was
the case then maybe we could extend the drive a little
so that the actual necessary budget can be met, as
opposed to the number of donations?

Anyway, you guys, esp Skinner, do have the quintessential
"thankless job." But don't think for a second we aren't
very grateful to you. We're just to cloddish to say it.
You've gotta remember that we are just simple farmers.
We are people of the land. The common clave -- the New West.
You know -- morons.


:evilgrin:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. kick
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 11:53 AM
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43. Kick !! n/t
...O...
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Kick to 1000!!!!!
:kick:
DemEx
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monkeyboy Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:56 PM
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46. Don't bother to donate to DU
We'll just have elad outsourced for 1/4 the salary.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Monkeyboy, laughing through the tears, as he waits for the hand of the Outsourcing Angel of Death to strike him down)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. Bad Bad monkeyboy
;-)
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:28 AM
Response to Reply #46
56. Hee hee
Good one monkeyboy.

We laugh because it rings true.
Plus, we have more time to laugh now that
our jobs are gone overseas.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:01 PM
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48. kick
If you ahven't done it, give Elad and the other two your damn money. Be done with it, you know you are going to, just do it, and lets move on. Give Elad a little security already.

:kick:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:45 PM
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50. elad, you rock!
you do a great job.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:47 PM
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51. Fund raiser challenge
I, Jack Rabbit, who already has a gold star, will donate $100 to DU if by 6 pm PST (9 pm EST) Friday DU has reached or exceeded 950 donations.

/s/



My mark from www.ku.edu/~mammals/lepus-t-camp.html



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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:12 PM
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52. That means you have THREE HOURS to move it
So let's go!!
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:30 PM
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53. Kick
:dem:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. Kick it!
:kick:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:04 AM
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55. This is major good news for all of us and should elicit some
major contributions. It certainly deserves a major kick from me. Thanks for all you do to keep DU running and for your commitment and dedication. DU is one of a kind, as are you...:kick:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:31 AM
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57. Big Ups to Techies! KICK!!!!
:dem:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:01 AM
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58. kick
:kick:
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:00 AM
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59. Just donated
for the first time upon reading your thread Elad. Having a stream of income finally after a long drought helps me, so I'm more than happy to share a great cause. You guys are the best.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #59
60. kick
:kick:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. kick
:kick:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Once more...for weekend DUers...
:kick:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:37 PM
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63. Great! THIS gives me the opportunity to say...
that I am really impressed and pleased at how nicely organized this website is, in terms of layout and look. Very professional and much better than many sites that have entire staffs of programmers.

Thanks, Skinner, Elad, and EarlG. And, Elad, keep up the good programming work.
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