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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 09:52 PM
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Station calls for Jethro Tull boycott
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7244613.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Jethro Tull is off the playlist of one classic rock station after the band's front man criticized displays of the Stars and Stripes.

Ian Anderson made the remarks in an interview published Sunday in the Asbury Park Press.

"I hate to see the American flag hanging out of every bloody station wagon, out of every SUV, every little Midwestern house in some residential area," Anderson was quoted as saying. "It's easy to confuse patriotism with nationalism. Flag waving ain't gonna do it."

The verdict from listeners of WCHR-FM's "Free Beer and Hot Wings" morning show was swift.

"The reaction of our audience has been 99 percent in favor of the ban and 99 percent incredulous that he would say such stupid things," said Phil LoCascio, WCHR program director and on-air personality. "He is a smart guy. As far as we're concerned, this ban is forever."
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Well, fuck you, Phil. Ian Anderson had more class in the cancerous lumps they tore out of his throat than you will ever have.
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kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 09:56 PM
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1. Dashcle, Mahar, now Anderson...
Wake the hell up America
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:06 PM
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2. Yeah...they can't handle Freedom of Speech...
Afraid some people will start thinking and waking...

Long live Ian Anderson!
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:10 PM
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3. Anderson played a flute duet last night with Tony Snow from FOX
at his concert at Lisner Auditorium in GWU in D.C. I'm not making this up!!

Do we live a crazy world or what??
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:32 PM
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5. Holy crap
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 10:34 PM by ajacobson
I would have died to see that.

on edit: toned down my expletives on the subject line
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:29 PM
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4. "He is a smart guy."
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 10:29 PM by lunabush
Then pay fuckin' attention! Ian got somethin' to say and you radio jocks are too friggin' ignorant to pay attention.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:36 PM
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6. Time to buy that "Thick as a Brick" CD
and see if I like it as much as I did when I was 15! LOL
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:13 PM
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7. Been listening to Aqualung and Thick As A Brick tonight
since all this started. Sounds just as good as it ever did, even my personal anthem, "Wind Up".

"When I was young and they packed me off to school
and taught me how not to play the game,
I didn't mind if they groomed me for success (bleaaaach...!),
or if they said that I was a fool.
So I left there in the morning
with their God tucked underneath my arm --
their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.
So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said -- I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays."
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 11:55 AM
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26. Wind Up
Always been one of my favorite Tull tunes. Good music and good thought-provoking lyrics.

Bake
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:19 PM
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8. He has guts- most Classic rockers are afraid of Bush/media...
...I hope his royalties do not suffer as a result...
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:42 AM
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19. Ian Doesn't Have To Worry
He owns the worlds largest Salmon Farm. He raises Atlantic Salmon and ships them all over the world. Plus, I think a large winery in California. He's got the bucks.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 07:43 AM
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22. I heard he owned goat herds as well!!!
An interesting fellow-

"Medival Rock"- what a weird-o! (Weird in a good way, that is)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:21 PM
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9. Does this mean that I have to like Jethro Tull now?
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:55 AM
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10. Nice job Ian!
What is with all of these over-sensitive idiots? Fuck the freedom of speech seems to be the attitude anymore. You're able to say anything unless its about our country, or our flag and then we're going to shun you!

The destruction of America.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:59 AM
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11. Just put on the 20 Year Anniversary cassette
just for old time sake. Haven't listened to it since.... well, since I used to buy casettes.

A quote that seems particularly fitting for today's world.

"And they balance the world on the tip of their nose
like a sealion with a ball at the carnival."

I liked his little ditties that he did on some of his albums. Little songs (poems?) that were maybe only 6-8 lines long. Some I can remember were "Nursie" and "A Christmas Song".

Some of his songs I really hated even when I liked him - geeze that was over 20 years ago. Bouree, Bungle in the Jungle, It Was A New Day Yesterday, And the Heavy Horses Album and everything after it. That's where he lost me.

I remember staying up till midnight to watch Don Kirchner because Jethro Tull was on and they did Heavy Horses from the new album, and I thought it sucked -- disappointment from a big fan.

Although the one line in the album was cool -- "The mouse police never sleeps." about a barn cat.

Ah reminiscying.



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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:05 AM
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12. I've been calling for a Jethro Tull boycot for 30 years!!
And nobody ever listened to me.
Maybe Thijs van Leer can be so kind as to speak his mind and we'll get Focus off the air too.

Folks, all patridiotics aside, rock was never intended to be played on a flute.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:53 AM
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18. aah ah ah ah aaaaaaah aaaahah ah! (NT)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 11:43 AM
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25. HAHAHAHA Spindoctor! n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:16 AM
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13. Just a question
No disrespect to Jethro Tull fans here specifically or "classic rock" fans in general.

But, HOW CAN YOU LISTEN TO THE SAME MUSIC FOR OVER 30 YEARS and still enjoy it?

I swear if I hear "Aqualung" or "Stairway to Heaven" or "Free Bird" one more time, I'll rip my own throat out.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:42 AM
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14. For the memories, my dear young friend.
I loved Creedence Clearwater Revival when I was four years old, one of my first memories is dancing to "Lookin' Our My Backdoor" with my partridge family type bathing suit on. Thirty-three years later, it still puts me in a happy mood when I hear it on the radio.

I feel inclined to put on classical or bluegrass more and more these days, and rarely have time to give old favorites or my cassette player fair use. Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, and several secret 80's songs remind me of my first husband.

Since I don't listen to the radio much, I was enjoying some oldies music (that would be 50's and 60's to me) on a long trip and singing merrily at the top of my lungs. My friend's 6 year old daughter, not being exposed to that era, seemed impressed when she said "Do you know every song ever made?"

Ian rocks, man. Fiddles, flutes, maracas, djembes, who cares? It's how you put it together that makes it rock and roll.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:51 AM
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16. Well, thanks for the compliment
But it appears I am twelve years older than you!

Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" was the first eight-track I ever had. I've heard and done so much since that it makes me break out in hives when I hear it now.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:49 AM
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15. You remember happy days
When I hear Jethro Tull, I think of hanging out with my friends in my basement playing ping-pong at about 12 years old.

When I hear Cat Stevens, I remember sleeping in a tent with my friends in my backyard in New York City when I was about nine.

Those are good memories.

We used to sleep in a tent and wander the neighborhood all night in New York City 35 summers ago. I sure wouldn't let my kid do that today.

We used to take off in the morning and come back at dinnertime. I wouldn't let my kid do that today either.

Times have changed and not always for the better.

That was before cell phones, or even air conditioners. No air conditioner in the house, or in the school either.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 07:40 AM
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20. Um, most of us don't
Nor did most of us listen to it the first time around. Top 40 -- shit then, shit now. Don't get me wrong, a lot of those performers were outstanding (a lot of them weren't), but the best songs were/are never played on the radio. Trust me, in 20 years you'll be saying the same thing while they're playing Nickleback for the 486,296th time. ;-) B-)
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:18 PM
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28. The same way a classical music fan
can listen to Beethoven's 7th Symphony or Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik a thousand times. Music invokes emotions. If you enjoy the emotions the music invokes in you, why would you not enjoy listening to it for years?

I mean, does an orgasm lose its luster because you've had one before? Do you never want to have another great meal because it's already been done? Pleasure is pleasure.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 01:52 AM
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17. If Jesus saves, then he'd better save himself
from the gory glory seekers who use his name in death.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 07:42 AM
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21. I love Jethro Tull and Ian Anderson...
:yourock:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:19 AM
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23. Record sales should soar!
Just like the Dixie Chicks (SP?). Do the republicans ever learn from prior mistakes? Sheesh!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 09:44 AM
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24. 30+years a Tull fan here.
I think I'll just keep listening. My youngest son and I went to see him play about a year ago. I didn't expect much, I just wanted to see one of my childhood favorites play live. And the consensus at the end of the show was:

Ian Anderson rocks.

Ian Anderson inspired my 2nd husband to learn to play the flute in Jr. High. I found out why. That flute is almost as big as he is. He looks like a bizarre pagan elf dancing around with his giant flute up there on stage, and what he can do with that flute...

He also plays a lot of other non-mainstream instruments. I don't remember their names. As much instrumental music as vocals. Plenty of old favorites, but other stuff as well. Perhaps we should start calling classic rock stations to request play time?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 12:19 PM
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27. I love the Tull!
Am I the only one who loves their debut album, "This Was"? :-) Mick Abrahams on guitar, his only album before he departed.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:20 PM
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29. I'm a big fan, also
have seen Tull in concert five times. They were phenomenal every time. I never tire of the songs from War Child especially.

Ian Anderson is still making new music, and it's still great music.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:25 PM
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30. Well, heaven forbid everyone not worship the flag!
What ever happened to not having idols? I mean, this is ridiculous; I respect our flag, but it's a symbol, it isn't like it's the original copy of the Bill of Rights or something (oh wait, these flag-lovers wipe their butts with that). I don't think it shows respect for the flag to have it on every bloody station wagon either until it turns into a dirty, tattered rag, and he's right - patriotism and nationalism are very different things. Nationalism is ugly, and the first step on the slippery slope to fascism. Patriotism is loving your country without blindly worshiping it. One should recognize both the good and bad things about one's nation, and work to change the bad and keep the good.

Besides, it's not even his flag, for crying out loud! Is everyone in the world supposed to kneel before the Almighty American Stars and Stripes?

Imagine, the type of listeners who enjoy a morning program entitled "Free Beer and Hot Wings" was negative. Imagine my surprise there. Ask the listeners on NPR's Morning Edition instead.

Another Clear Channel station toes the repug party line...
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