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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:09 PM
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So, how badly will one failed college class hurt me in the long run?
I'm in college right now, and unfortunately, I know I am going to bomb it spectacularly, and there's just about nothing I can do about it.

I'm not on a scholarship or anything like that, so is it the end of the world if I fail one class?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:09 PM
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1. Yes
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Graf Orlok Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:10 PM
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2. No.
And I've failed three or so.

As long as your GPA is well above 2.0, I think you're fine.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:11 PM
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3. can you drop it now? then drop it
or try taking it pass/fail
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:12 PM
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5. No, deadline was in early september
and I thought I could stick it out.

I now know that was stupid.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:13 PM
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7. are you sure?
cos early september generally has the option to drop it and take another class

to completely dropp a class the deadlines are later (cos you lose money in this..since you have paid for the credits)

and to take it pass/fail is i believe and even later deadline

look up the rules properly
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:11 PM
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4. In the long run, no one will care about one class in college
In the short term, you may have to take the class over if it is a required class.

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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:13 PM
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6. depends on your priorities
it WILL play HELL with your GPA
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:21 PM
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14. It will, but I'm hoping the B's and A's will balance it out. -nt-
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:29 PM
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25. but it won't
it will always pull down your GPA ....sorry to tell you but, I know from the personal experience of hauling around a D...I hate to think what an F will do... :cry:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:14 PM
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8. It depends on the class......
I failed swimming...don't ask.....and though it bothered me a lot, it never made any difference in the long term......

I did ultimately have to pass it, and I did......

Good luck to you!


:hi:
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SIU_Blue Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:14 PM
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9. Are you planning on grad school?
or any other post-college education?

Because if you are, a bad grade will hurt.

I started college not thinking about anything afterwards and so I slacked a bit my first 2 years. Now I'm headed to law school, so I've been busting ass trying to get my GPA back up. Bad grades could hurt you. On the other hand, most jobs don't care as long as you have the degree.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:15 PM
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10. once you get your 1st job, it wont matter much afterwards
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:15 PM
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11. Depends
Is the course a required one for your program or major? Usually you have the option to retake a class and have the failure removed from your record.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:20 PM
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13. That's the biggest issue...
is it in your major? If so, then yes, it's going to be a problem. Not an insurmountable one, unless you're trying for a highly competitive grad program, but a problem nonetheless.

If it's some bullshit gen-ed, like swimming (Peggy, you gotta tell me that story), then it will probably be fine.

I also agree with lionesspriyanka, double check the drop-out dates. Those should definitely be later in the semester, and if you can...drop it. Or take in Pass/Fail, which will keep it from affecting your GPA.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:22 PM
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16. Finite Math for a Political Science major.
So, no, not my major.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:26 PM
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20. What??? LOL. Don't worry about it!
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:26 PM
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21. Is it fulfilling some kind of "Quantitative Analysis" distribution?
Otherwise, it's not the end of the world.

It does look bad, though, so you might want to retake it (during a time of light workload.) Definitely find out if there's any way out of it.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:30 PM
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26. just make sure you pass Advanced Cronyism 210 n/t
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 02:30 PM by LSK
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:09 PM
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32. just retake it later
granted, that's money down the tubes, but I did that with one writing class I decided not to attend ( guess i must have had a reason at the time ;)), retook it, did well, and it seemed to have little effect in the long run. But then, grad school was less competitive then....


can't you get a tutor or something?
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:16 PM
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12. No one has ever asked about my GPA in college (thank goddess)
Not for a single job and no one I know has ever been asked.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:21 PM
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15. You can still be President of the United States
So I'm thinking you'll be A-OK.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:24 PM
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17. I know of a former Nobel Prize winner in Physics who *flunk* or
at most got a D in Physics as an undergraduate! He also almost flunked out of Grad school too.

I think in general they forgive a bad grade. Believe me, all of them have screwed up at one time or another.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:25 PM
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18. College, schmollege
that piece of paper ain't going to be worth nothing when civilization collapses and you are forced to fend for yourself among the other zombie denizens of suburbia.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:25 PM
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19. depends what it is, and whether it is required for your major, etc.
Actually, either way it's hardly the "end of the world".

I can tell you for sure that if you just stop going to class for a whole semester, and neglect to withdraw from the classes etc. b/c you think you are so smart and can get away with just spending all your scholarship money on booze (I guess that doesn't apply to you), and then years later decide to go back and get your degree...well, it fucks up your GPA. A lot.

Yeah, 'cause...uhhh...this guy I know, that happened to him....

:yoiks:
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:28 PM
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22. I actually failed out of college
After one spectacularly bad semester. Won't get into all the details here.

Re-entered a couple years later and finished with a GPA still well-above a 3.0.

Got accepted to better law schools than some of my friends.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:28 PM
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23. I don't know when you started
You should be less than half way done with the term. I don't know about your class, but for most of my classes, there were a lot of big points at the end. Obviously, I do not know your particuliar problem with the class, but you probably still have a chance to salvage your grade to at least passing. Explore your resources like tutors, the professor, or any assistants to at least pass the class. Depending upon the graduation requirements, it is better that you get course credit now than overload later to graduate on time.
If you are certain that you are going to fail and aren't going to make a good try at bringing up your grade, see about withdrawing from the class. At my college, you could withdrawal up until about 75% of the way through the course. Some colleges do note on your transcripts if you were failing at the time, WF (withdraw failing) as opposed to WP (withdraw passing). You might want to check with the registrar to see what your options are. Either way, you wouldn't get credit, but it would allow you to make a decision now instead of stressing about it all term and might not figure into your GPA.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:28 PM
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24. Depends on the class
What's your major?

I totally fucked up freshman English. Mostly because I never attended a single class. I had better things to do - like hang out with radical feminists and flirt with a Down's Syndrome girl who was convinced I was a member of her fave rock band and argue Toynbee, Wittgenstein and Bohr with random strangers.

Actually, an F is better than a D - it means you can take it over and the new grade will place the old grade and all will be well. Better to crash and burn than slip through.

So if you are truly bombing - drop it or get such a bad grade they'll let you try again. The only real exception (and if you have a little blarney in your soul you can even work that) are courses in your major.

This is coming from an expert :)

Khash, summa cum lauda.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:37 PM
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27. Can you wrangle an Incomplete and do some extra work for the prof?
Since I'm on the professor end of things, I'll try to give you my spin.
Read your syllabus again and make sure you understand this prof's grading standards and policies. Maybe you have wiggle room.
Next, if you want to figure out a way to pass, set up an appointment with the prof.
I love it when someone wants to talk, not yell or argue. Just talk about the situation and ask sincerely for help.
Professors don't get off on giving a student a failing grade. Really. It doesn't help with our careers to have those kind of stats. Besides, most of us are real people and went into education because we love what we do, we love our subjects, and we really want our students to learn.

I suggest a meeting, a plan, and then you have to follow through with what you say you are going to do. I have given incompletes several times in the last five years, but never... not ever... has a student completed what they said they would to eradicate the incomplete and get a grade. That means each grade reverted to "F." Sad day.

Good luck!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:45 PM
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28. I wouldn't worry about it, if it's just one
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 02:47 PM by mvd
I think many employers just look at the fact you have a degree anyway. I only had a 2.47 GPA at my college, with many hard professors like O'Neill (at least she gave me Cs - my math for EcBA producer actually gave me a D.) The prestige of Ursinus, deserved or not, has impressed people.

I had a D- in my first semester in a computer course I wasn't prepared for, but I didn't give up. Also, I withdrew from a course that I made up later without too much trouble.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:48 PM
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29. If you're not going to grad school, your GPA will never matter.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:23 PM
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30. If it's not in your major don't worry about it
it may take a chunk out of your GPA for a while though. I was put on academic probation my first semester. Was in school part-time only taking 2 classes, failed one...

was on the dean's list the next year

don't sweat it. but know how to play the "drop/add" game. If you're not doing well in a class by the 3rd week, drop it. Just make sure you're doing well in your major.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:05 PM
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31. Former college professor chimes in
1) Have you talked to your instructor? One of the most frustrating things about teaching was that the students who were failing would start avoiding me, in and out of class. I wanted to talk to them about how they could do better, but they never came for help, and after class, they slipped out with ninja-like speed and stealth, before I could flag them down.

Until you have talked with your instructor and asked for hints on how to study better (there are tricks for studying math that some people get instinctively and others struggle with) you can't say "there's just nothing I can do about it."

2) Hire a more advanced student as a tutor. Sometimes it helps to hear a different approach to the subject matter.

3) At every school I taught at and attended, it was possible to withdraw from a class until at least halfway through the term. You may not be able to substitute another class, and you definitely won't get a grade or a tuition refund, but you almost certainly can withdraw. Ask your registrar's office. Seriously.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:17 PM
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33. there goes your future
forget about the good jobs, the hot babes, the nice cars

it's all over.

everyone will know and everyone will laugh.


just kidding
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:18 PM
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34. In the long run, No. Once your gotten your degree and your first job
nobody's going to care what your GPA was.

Let's not have any more bombs, though. :)
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:19 PM
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35. Your approach to your situation could do you in for good.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:21 PM
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36. Not that I am in ANY way a role model...
But I was an undergrad for 10 years. MISERABLY failed my first three years, took some time off, returned to college 3 years later, graduated with honors and am now in a very competitive grad program.
In the grand scheme of things, one F won't do ya in. :)

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:23 PM
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37. Once you get your first job....
All they care about is if you have a degree and some experience...

The place I was a fill in control went out and hired a gal with a 4.0 back when she went to college...

By the time she got done with the company, it was bankrupt....
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