Vampires

What are your thought on people who drink blood/feed of peoples energy? Do you think they should be able to live as they wish or not?
Are they as repressed as gays were or do you thing that they are nuts? Honnest oppinions please!

Add on> If you had someone next door to you that was a vampire or a family member that came out and said they were living that lifestyle, what would be your reaction? Would you support them or make them feel like outcasts?

I enjoy watching vampire movies/tv shows. Nothing better than sitting on the couch on a Wednesday night watching "Angel." As for the whole eating other people's blood.....that's just wrong. They are not repressed, they're nuts. If a neighbor of mine was a vampire, and s/he tried to eat my blood, I'd stake their heart in a heartbeat. :D
Sting

It is two or more adults ingaging in either blood or energy feeding.

but they are freakin' silly

live and let live. If they lived next door, as long as they kept up thier property, I'd be friendly, and pretty much take the attitude of "kewl".

"No I'm sorry ma'am... you are not an immortal creature of the night... but you do look good in a black leather corset..."

And many use to say the same about homosexuals, about needing professional help!

There's a big difference between being homosexual and thinking you're yes, an IMMORTAL FANTASY MONSTER.

They're not actually vampires. Vampires are a myth. A fantasy. They just think they're vampires.

Trust me-- I've read some of these self-proclaimed "vampire"'s websites.

And so, the lead their life around being this fantasy monster.

It doesn't sound particuilarily sane to me. And yes, I do think they need help.

I could believe I'm a Zorgtron and emperor of the known universe, but that doesn't make it true.

It would mean I needed help though, if I ran around proclaiming I was a Zorgtron and bending my life around it.

Note I am not referring to goths. That's something else entirely. I am specifically addressing people who claim to be "vampires".

gamers will feed you that line. But there is a big diffrents between gamers and "real" vampires.

There's just people with mental illness claiming to be vampires. Why abandon them to madness instead of helping them?

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Evil Doers - which is a bit to close to Evil Duers for comfort.

point of mutilation, they should seek mental help. However, I saw a documentary once with Anne Rice (I love her novels) and she would throw parties in New Orleans (that is where she is from) where most of the people would dress up like vampires, but they would just have fun w/out all of the blood.

There are, I think the name is Plasma vampires, as well. They don't suck blood at all. It is really different, but I think they should be able to live amongst us, unless they start hurting other people in the process.

We even had a few in our school.

Mr. Bush Baud Man! He Vedy, Vedy Baud Man.

so long as they don't go looking for victims...

although with HIV and so many other diseases that can be spread by blood...I don't think its a good idea.

And not the freaks that go off mutlating bodies. I am talking of those you may nevr realy know about! They may even be your banker or doctor.

I am a vampire! what would you do? How would you reacted?

"Uhhhh... ok dude!" And call a psychiatrist.

Let's be honest -- these people are not vampires, and have severe mental problems if they think they are. I think it would be cruel not to help them.

how many use to look at homosexuals.

Going back 50-odd years. How did people used to look at gays?

in mental wards as close as the 1960's. The tried to "treat" them for their "illness".

Thank God we have came such a long way!

Links, please re locking up gays in the 1960s.

that had many locked up by there family mambers.
My sister also was doing reserch for a paper on epilepsy and found where they locked them and homosexuals up in 1920's

just start googling!

You said 1960s, now you are posting about the 1920s. Big difference.

Still happend in the 1960's, but they had to show proof before they could lock up anyone.

"Buck vs Bell" is a case where they locked a person up for epilepsy so look up that becase there is stuff linked to that case about homsexuals. that is how my sister came along the info. It also started a long talk with my father.

was considered a mental disorder until the 1970s by the APA (American Pschological Association). In China, it wasn't until the late 1990s when the term homosexual was retracted from their terminology of mental disorders.

Don't say it is not true because it is.

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In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders.
Prior to that, and since then, many interventions among professionals have been aimed at changing the sexual orientation of lesbians and gay men. The clinical term for this is "reparative therapy." This involves attempts to change the direction of one's physical, emotional and psychological attractions from same-gendered persons to other-gendered persons. Reparative therapy is rooted in the belief that being gay or lesbian is pathological. Today, no professional mental health associations support "reparative" therapy. Homosexuality is no longer viewed as an "illness," or "disorder, " thus the idea of "repairing" or "reparative" therapy is a non-issue. Tragically, however, organizations do exist that condone and offer reparative therapy.


Gay and lesbian adolescents who experience discomfort with their sexual orientation are more likely to benefit from accurate information, peer supports, and supportive interventions to assist in the successful acceptance of one's sexual orientation, versus the unrealistic pursuit to eliminate what appears to be inherent, and unchangeable. Many interventions aimed at changing the sexual orientation of lesbians and gay men have succeeded only in reducing sexual behavior and self-esteem rather than in creating or increasing attractions to the other gender.(J.C. Gonsiorek & J.D. Weinrich (Eds.) Homosexuality: Research Implications for Public Policy Newbury Park, CA: Sage Publications, 1991, pp. 49-160)



December 1973
The APA deplores all public and private discrimination against homosexuals in such areas as employment, housing, public accommodations, and licensing, and declares that no burden of proof of such judgment, capacity, or reliability shall be placed on these individuals greater than that imposed on any other person. Further, the APA supports and urges the enactment of civil rights legislation at the local, state, and federal level that would offer citizens who engage in acts of homosexuality the same protections now guaranteed to others on the basis of race, creed, color, etc. Further, the APA supports and urges the repeal of all discriminatory legislation singling out homosexual acts by consenting adults in private. (American Psychological Association: Discrimination against homosexuals. American Psychological Association Policy Statements on Lesbian and Gay Issues. Washington, D.C., American Psychological Association, 1991)

Homosexuals actually ARE homosexual.

They ARE attracted to members of the same sex.

People claiming to be vampires are NOT vampires.

They are human, can you accept that and move on? Why cater to the fantasy of someone with a mental illness?

because of the fact that they have, a "need" if you will, for blood. Or others feed off energy of others (a.k.a aura).


And that is what many right wing people still say about homosexuals ya know!

Again, they are human.

VAMPIRES ARE A FANTASY THAT IS NOT REAL

Ok. I hope we've got that point down. Moving on.

They do not "need" blood. They are human. They need fats, carbohydrates, sugars, vitamins and water.
They do not die to sunlight. They are human. They might get skin cancer from UVB, though.
They are not immortal. They are human. They will grow old and die.

Vampires do not exist. Homosexuals are not a valid analogy. We've been over this.

There are only people with mental illness.

Help people with a mental illness-- don't leave them with it.

They work at jobs, get suntans, eat garlic, and can die from a stake in the heart just like you and me!
And they do have other names(looking up proper spelling).
But they have a need/ want for blood. Some for energy. They have people that donate to them and responible ones get themselves and the donner tested befor the enjoy. if this is how they wish to live what is wrong with that?

But that's not really the definition of vampire... nor what I've seen people claim to be on the web. (they actually claim to be the Stokerian/Rice type vampire) And yes, I think these people are disturbed.

I have no idea what the term is for blood drinking in and of itself, but my guess is it's something else entirely. Blood drinking by itself is seperate from the vampire myth and extends long back through human history and culture. It predates the vampire myth by at least several thousand years, from the first cases of it I've heard about.

Is there anything "wrong" with it? Right and wrong are relative. I don't care that much.

do you believe they can live as they wish or not?

Lady Freedom asked:

"do you believe they can live as they wish or not?"

As long as it's consensual, yes.

I'm sorry, but I can't pass up an opportunity for another shameless plug for the TV show Dark Shadows. :evilgrin:

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but if the goddamned werewolves don't stop getting into the trash and spreading it all over the yard, there's gonna be a call to the pound.

Seriously, vampirism is not my personal cup of tea, but I agree with area51 that as long as it's consensual, they may live as they wish and society doesn't have a right to interfere.

If a neighbor or friend told me that s/he was a "vampire" I might feel a bit uncomfortable for a little while, but I don't think I would shun the person because of it; especially if it were a very close friend or family member, because there's a degree of extra tolerance built in that would make it easier for me to deal with. I've never been one to judge what "does it" for other people, having a few louche quirks of my own some of which I still haven't dared to broach with my husband.

Françoise

People have lots of different fetishes. A blood fetish is just as valid as any other as long as it is consensual and not done irresponsibly. I know a few people who have a blood sucking/drinking fetish and it doesn't seem to me that they need mental help.
A lot of people have diverse fantasies and enjoy different types of experiences. I don't think it's any different than BDSM or toe sucking, or anything else that people find exciting.
Everyone I've talked to who does this knows they are regular people and just enjoy the experience.

There are NO limits to sexual weirdness or the people who'll love them.

As long as nobody's hurt?

Whatever, I guess.

Just don't come anywhere near me with your "fangs" or "beddy bears."

You'll remember me if you do.

the sight of blood makes me sick, so as long as they do it where I don't have to see it...whatever. :shrug:

and there never will be.

Because of the blood feeding that they do. But, not all "vampires" feed off blood.

Main Entry: vam·pire
Pronunciation: 'vam-"pIr
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from German Vampir, from Serbo-Croatian vampir
Date: 1734
1 : the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep
2 a : one who lives by preying on others b : a woman who exploits and ruins her lover
3 : VAMPIRE BAT
- vam·pir·ish /-ish/ adjective


'cause they aren't reanimated undead corpses, they don't prey on others, I'm not even touching 2b, and they aren't small nocturnal furry mammals with wings.

The tradition of drinking another person's blood, consensually or not, as part of belief system involving the transfer of power, wisdom, etc came several thousand years at least before the vampire myth.

Even in Christianity, communion is the symbolic drinking of blood.

I do not know what the term is, but I do know that "vampire" is the wrong one and causing people here to think about something other than what you're describing.

or being anywhere that doesn't have a thermostat. I'm not an outdoors person--completely indifferent to the outdoors when there isn't anything floating in the atmosphere to annoy me, and, well, annoyed if it's too bright, too hot, too cold, too humid, too windy, too many insects. I'm not a vampire, but I wouldn't have to change my lifestyle much if I were.

I'm not even partial to daylight. I'm a real night person, don't usually even go to bed before daylight. I just can't stand the sight of blood so I'd never make it as a vampire. :-( :shrug: :-)

Is it sexual? Spiritual? Both?

I don't understand it. Does anyone really know WHY they feel the need for blood or "energy" - and furthermore, how the hell do you take someone's energy?

:shrug: