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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:07 AM
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The Rebel Flag is not about White Supremacy.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 02:20 AM by the_real_38
But I think NASCAR might be ....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/14/opinion/polls/main583828.shtml

Explains a lot. Comments?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:14 AM
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1. This is crap.
I am a Nascar fan. I am a democrat. I am not a white supremacist. This is an offensive comment. You may be over-zealous, but that's not right. How can you accuse me of being a white supremacist? I am not the typical nascar fan but so what. I live in NY and am 27. I am not some cross burning redneck as you imply. :argh:
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:19 AM
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2. It's a white sport ...
... that's what the attraction is.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:21 AM
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3. That's more crap.
You shouldn't label people like that. I don't care who the drivers are. I also like football, baseball and basketball. Are they white sports? What you are doing is wrong.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:21 AM
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4. Are there any all-black teams on the circuit?
google didn't show anything
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:25 AM
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7. What would having another "segregated" team prove?
?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:26 AM
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9. What are you talking about?
Are there any all black teams in any major sports?
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:24 AM
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6. So is the NBA a black sport?
?

You are partially right. Many white racists watch NASCAR because it is the only "white sport" left.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:29 AM
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10. And there's always hope that Tiger Woods...
.. won't live up to his promise. I think sports is where the most racial resentment is bottled up.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:30 AM
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12. A freeper in disguise?
I see a tombstone in your future.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:34 AM
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13. Freeper? Man, that's some reversal...
... did you read the article? I'm trying to figure out why so many of these NASCAR freaks vote for Republicans - there's some kind of codes that are being transmitted there, that make those people identify with the same cause politically
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:36 AM
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14. The tiger woods comment
is racist.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:38 AM
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15. NASCAR does not affect anyone's vote
Do you think the NBA makes people Democratic?

NASCAR fans are conservative because its fan base is disproportionately rural, working-class, white and Southern. It is not because of some subliminal messages from the NASCAR.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:44 AM
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17. NASCARites identify Bush and Rethugs with integrity and churchgoingfolk.
In other words, many NASCARites are hypocrites or just plain dumb.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:00 AM
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19. You're confusing correlation with causation
NASCAR fans are pro-Bush because of the demographics of its fans, not because of the cars.

NBA fans are probably Democratic. Is that because of the orange basketball or is it because they are mostly metropolitan fans?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:25 AM
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8. Utter nonsense.
You seem to be saying that since Nascar lacks enough black representation (which it does), anyone who likes the sport must be a racist.

That's just flat silly. It really isn't worthy of commenting upon but hey, I've got an extra minute. Did it ever occur to you that there might be people out there who actually LIKE watching American stock cars go in circles?

In my opinion Nascar could use a black driver who came along and kicked the snot out of the rest of em for a year or two. Might expand the fan base a bit.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:06 AM
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20. I've got to chime in and agree with this other guy that responded to this.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 03:07 AM by LoZoccolo
This is why some of them hate Democrats - we're just going to accuse them of junk like this.

There's a lot more established - and more serious - data about racism in this country. Stuff like this might make you think you look like you have some sort of awareness most people don't, but it's reckless.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:23 AM
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5. I am a Northeastern non-white liberal NASCAR fan
Do not stereotype all of us. A LOT of NASCAR fans are bigots. Go to any NASCAR message board and talk about race and you'll see how widespread it is. However, many NASCAR fans are good people.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:29 AM
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11. Obviously NASCAR will be forever associated with the Billy Bob crowd
But beyond that, I find it boring. It's basically two hours of left turns.
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:41 AM
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16. but the tires are black...
sorry but i actually find myself at a loss for words on this one...well, dark-humor and satyrical comments are running rampant in my mind, but being new, i know not the sensitivity factor of this board...if you catch a white supremacist watching anything for any extended period of time, it's prolly cuz he can't find the dang remote control...it's not racial, it's whether you like cars and product placement...

one love
spike
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:45 AM
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18. Welcome
:hi:

Don't worry about sensitivty too much. Don't try to personally insult anyone and you are fine. ;)
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:18 AM
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21. thanx...
i will never insult anyone, i just hope i can be a welcome addition here, chock full-o brevity and questions...i never felt like such a newbie when i was told i don't have enough posts to do anything but post...so...anyway thanks for the welcome and i'll do my best to circle the proverbial wagons (whatever the hell that means...)

i think i'm gonna like it here...silly vernacular and all...

so many questions tho...
why the filter on newbie actions (threads, messages???) my guess is covert asswipes with a heavy right-wing agenda popping in and bunging up the system? they do that everywhere don't they???

wait is this the nascar thread?

go dale earnhardt...no wait...ahh nevermind...EVERYTHING can seem racist if you look at it wrong enough...

clamming up now...i'll be that guy who you'll see posting and thinking to yerself "this guy is obviously got some great coffee"

(yeah that's it)
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