Since We're All Talking About Religion Today...

When you die, do you think you'll go to heaven or hell?

And lets just suppose that both exist and you can either go to one or the other.

Athiests can play along too.... :D

Yes, even Hitler.

Don't make me try to explain it. I don't entirely get it, myself. It's just part of my faith.

I cannot conceive of a heaven with Hitler present

that has an onion ring in it - it's kinda like that. :D

:hi:

Cracked me up.

;)

On edit: Do you think it would be just for God to bring us into this world as such weak creatures, and then judge us on the way out?

LOL

all pretty girls do!

Im going into a hole in the ground ....turn into compost ...recycle

One of my theological theories though is of the opinion that it hurts one's chances of going to heaven if one thinks that they belong in heaven. I also think that it is unrighteous to do any good deed or religious act for the purpose of trying to earn a spot in heaven.

thing to do?

Or do you have to be simply inherently virtuous, with no realization of the moral value of your actions?

It is righteous to do something because you know that it is right. This also allows thinking about doing the wrong thing and doing the right thing instead. Your actions are what important. Of course, actively fantasizing about doing bad things isn't righteous but temptation is human. Ideally, practice in righteous action and being intuned with your spiritual self and God, will make you virteous and it will seem natural to do moral things.
This is how I've been thinking about things lately, but I'm still growing and changing in my beliefs.

If one believes that their spirit survives death then the afterlife I think could be another adventure like organic life with the same struggles between good and evil.

...and fix the air conditioning.

JM (enters, accompanied by the VALET, and glances around him): So here we are?
VALET: Yes, Mr. Jan Michael.
JM: And this is what it looks like?
VALET: Yes.
JM: Second Empire furniture, I observe... Well, well, I dare say one gets used to it in time.
VALET: Some do, some don't.
JM: Are all the rooms like this one?
VALET: How could they be? We cater for all sorts: Chinamen and Indians, for instance. What use would they have for a Second Empire chair?
JM: And what use do you suppose I have for one? Do you know who I was?...Oh, well, it's no great matter. And, to tell the truth, I had quite a habit of living among furniture that I didn't relish, and in false positions. I'd even come to like it. A false position in a Louis-Philippe dining room-- you know the style?--well, that had its points, you know. Bogus in bogus, so to speak.
VALET: And you'll find that living in a Second Empire drawing-room has its points.
JM: Really?...Yes, yes, I dare say...Still I certainly didn't expect-- this! You know what they tell us down there?
VALET: What about?
JM: About...this- er--residence.
VALET: Really, sir, how could you believe such cock-and-bull stories? Told by people who'd never set foot here. For, of course, if they had--
JM: Quite so. But I say, where are the instruments of torture?
VALET: The what?
JM: The racks and red-hot pincers and all the other paraphernalia?
VALET: Ah, you must have your little joke, sir.
JM: My little joke? Oh, I see. No, I wasn't joking. No mirrors, I notice. No windows. Only to be expected. And nothing breakable. But damn it all, they might have left me my toothbrush!
VALET: That's good! So you haven't yet got over your--what-do-you-call-it?--sense of human dignity? Excuse my smiling.
JM: I'll ask you to be more polite. I quite realize the position I'm in, but I won't tolerate...
VALET: Sorry, sir. No offense meant. But all our guests aske me the same questions. Silly questions, if you'll pardon my saying so. Where's the torture-chamber? That's the first thing they ask, all of them. They don't bother their heads about the bathroom requisites, that I can assure you. But after a bit, when they've got their nerve back, they start in about their toothbrushes and what-ot. Good heavens, Mr. Jan Michael, can't you use your brains? What, I ask you, would be the point of brushing your teeth?

Continue here: http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/hell/sart.html

Over and over and over and ......

who wants to. I believe some feel they have sinned such that they feel the absence from God (I believe there is a god, and that atheists and agnostics go to heaven too), which is all I feel hell to be. I believe we are reincarnated if and when we want to be. To learn, to understand, to feel again.

I don't buy the commonly accepted ideas about heaven, hell, religion or God.

I definitely see where you're coming from. I think that in order for God to be just, most of what you call the commonly accepted ideas have to be bunk. Just as one example, eternal damnation hardly seems like justice- it seems like overkill. Where's the compassion?

in that lake of fire!! (of course I am atheist so I don't believe in this silly crap) :hi:


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ruin spirituality for you, though. There's a lot of room for faith in this world- it's a tremendously benevolent place, for the most part- and there's nothing wrong with believing in God.

She said that at least I would know everyone there. She got that from a saying that my dear great grandmother, in all her Irish wisdom, used to say:

There are only two things to worry about:
Whether you are well or if you are sick.
If you are well, there is nothing to worry about.
If you are sick, there are two things to worry about:
Whether you live or if you die.
If you live, there is nothing to worry about.
If you die, there are two things to worry about:
Whether you go to Heaven or go to Hell.
If you go to Heaven, there is nothing to worry about.
If you go to Hell, there is still nothing to worry about, because you
will be so busy shaking hands with all your friends to notice.

like I have a choice in the issue?????

but we are all bound by each others' actions, and whether we like it or not..will all inhabit this collectively made heaven or hell together!

BEWARE! Although Hell has cable, everyone knows it only carries Fox channels.

;-)