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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:44 PM
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Rabrrrrrr's TotalBastard(tm) System of Education
I was just thinking - reading the other post about the 6th grader doing algebra - that's how education should work.

Give the stuff to the kids at a good clip so the brightest are challenged and their attention is maintained and they find learning fun and enjoyable and the kids who are too fucking dumb to keep up, fuck 'em, thanks for building and fixing our cars and delivering our furniture and bagging our groceries and sweeping the floors of my office.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:48 PM
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1. What a brave new world it is,
to have such Rabrrrrrrrrrrs in it.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:52 PM
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3. :)
That was good.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:51 PM
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2. Social Darwinism Rabrrrrrr-style.
:D
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:53 PM
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4. Brilliant. By the 3rd grade the losers should be on work-study.
Teachers know who the dumb fucks are. Why should my tax dollars pay for these idiots to be lazing around a school all day when they could be rotating my tires or changing my oil.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:12 AM
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7. And by sixth grade they should either know that they are smart enough
to go on, or be downtown shining my shoes or lifting heavy packages into my car.

Let's spend on our education tax dollars on the people will actually benefit from it, and use it for the betterment of society.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:15 AM
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8. At tenth grade, we'll weed out the loser destined for tech school
and send them off so we have someone who can be a secretary for their more intelligent peers, or who can "run" the computer system when the engineers knock off for the day, or count the pills for the pharmacist.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:51 AM
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20. I disagree
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 02:55 AM by fujiyama
about the early weeding out. I was a slacker in middle school and HS. I didn't fix up until sometime in college.

I like the flexibility in our educational system. I like that I was able to straighten out by spending some time at a community college.

But I do agree that kids should have their asses kicked early on. I say if kids in Japan can learn algebra in elementary school, why the hell can't kids here? Are kids in the US inherently stupid? Perhaps many parents are that don't place the emphasis on education it deserves especially math and science.

BTW, I'm in engineering so I especially think the US educational system is weak in the basics. In the last several years in education there's been all this 'new math' stuff and I don't think it's working that well.

I must admit Rabrrrrr with your posts I never know if you are being serious or sarcastic but I now realize it was in sarcasm. ;)

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:53 AM
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23. If I'm being nasty, it's a pretty sure bet that it's sarcasm
:-)

Especially when I'm being this nasty.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:07 AM
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25. very European of you
that is how it's done there.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:32 AM
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26. "Leave the dumb children behind!"
That's my motto!

:hi: miss-kitty!!
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:20 AM
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9. Damn right. 1st grade should have classes for building
cardboard boxes into homes. Also Begging For Food For Dummies. People underestimate 6yr olds.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:20 AM
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14. And re-installing my windshield and fixing my &@*^$ furnace,
because one of their illiterate brethren fucked it up at the factory when he made it.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:11 AM
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19. Absolutely. And for all those 6yr olds that can't reach your
windshield, GROW UP AND STOP WHINING. For crying out loud steal a step ladder. Just don't get caught or we'll fry your ass. (Or inject it, but that doesn't quite roll off the tongue so sweetly).
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:09 AM
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21. Damn right! Of course, they wouldn't be fixing windshields if they HAD
the kind of initiative it takes to go steal a step ladder to get his/her work done...

I can picture them now, sitting around drinking coffee, doing nothing, pissing and moaning and probably even crying because they can't reach the window so they just stop working, and thus proving that they need overseers, and probably should even be put into housing camps so they can have overseers at home as well.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:06 AM
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24. By some standards in the world, a kid in sixth grade
could have been working for three years...ever see that 60 Minutes from the 1800s when they showed the barge apprentice on the Thames? he started at 9 years old..."Time and tide wait for no man" was his first lesson... (it was probably the late 60s or early 70s they did that siory)
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:56 PM
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5. Sixth grade is when kids should be doing algebra
I always thought kids lost interest in math because it moved so damned slow.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:11 AM
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6. In my experience algebra never made any damn sense.
Geometry I got from day one, algebra was just incomprehensible.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:21 AM
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10. Same here
I love that scene in Peggy Sue Got Married where she tells the teacher "I happen to know that I will never have any use in life for algebra--and I speak from experience". (paraphrase)
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:24 AM
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11. One of my favorite movies. N/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:19 AM
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13. Ah, everyone uses Algebra all the time, they just don't realize it
Most people are also constantly partial differential equations in their heads without any realization that they are doing it.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:28 AM
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15. I wanted to make a smartass comment but I'd really rather ask you
to explain this. Please?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:01 AM
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18. Catching a ball, adjusting to traffic/signals on the highway,
shopping for ingredients for a dinner party to which you have invited vegans and non-vegans and alcohol drinkers and not-alcohol drinkers....
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:31 AM
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12. took me a few tries
but it eventually clicked. Glad I keep plugging away at it.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:12 AM
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22. same here
in H.S., i failed miserably at Algebra...in college, i got an A, and now i'm an algebra tutor...still blows my mind! :)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:37 AM
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16. I've just never bought the whole "the smart kids get bored" notion
If the kid is that tanjed smart, just jump them a grade or two.

And your last sentence trying to be funny about disrespecting the effort and intellect of the working class makes me wonder if I accidentally hit a link to Free Republic. Back in the day I could solve differential equations and do quantum physics, but I still have alot of respect for people who can fix cars and build houses, etc.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:57 AM
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17. It's my TotalBastard(tm) system
Thus, you know, :sarcasm:

I point that out for you, since it seems you missed it.

:hi:
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