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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:23 AM
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I hope I have PMS
Because all I can do is cry tonight damn it. You see, I don't get bitchy, I get sad. Right now, I just feel like the ugliest, dumbest, most awfulist (I know that's not a real word BTW) human in the universe. Maybe it's all these depressing documentaries I've been watching too. I know tomorrow I'll probably feel human again, but is there anything anyone could say to cheer me up at this moment?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:27 AM
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1. well if it is all PMS.....
Even funny things make me cry... so you need to have a nice glass of wine or some warm milk (and motrin)& go to bed early. All looks better in the morning.... :7



But, I'll leave you with one thought... imagine Bush coming face to face with the protesters pulling down his effigy, ah lah Sadaam.......
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:32 AM
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2. This may sound dumb but
I'm a male, and find myself recently sitting in my office doing paperwork and getting tearful. It makes no sense to me, but there it is.
As long as we can feel, then we are human and can connect.

I feel alone too, but there are many, I know, out there to help you change those thoughts about yourself.

Life is good.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:38 AM
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3. I think everyone goes through emotional periods...
where they are more prone to sadness or depression.

The difference with (severe) PMS is sometimes the drop in estrogen is so abrupt and intense, that it catches you totally off guard and can make you feel very irrational levels of sadness or anger. It can happen so rapidly that it can be really frightening-- until you realize what is happening...
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:41 AM
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4. Actually
I'm pretty sure it's the progesterone which reminds me. I have thos progesterone cream stuff lurking in the back of a closet somewhere, but I'm not sure I want to feel good yet. Maybe I need this. Feeling good doesn't seem to do me much good in the end.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:42 AM
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6. I'm not alone
I'm just living the wrong life. Now it's too late to do much about it.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:41 AM
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5. No offense but I would hate to try to cheer you up if you are experiencing
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 12:59 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
sadness. I would rather support you in crying until you can't anymore and getting it all out. Crying can be good for you if you do it with an intent to be exactly where you are, experience it and then let go of it.

Once you have gotten it out, if nothing else is going on, you will naturally cheer up and lighten up.

If that doesn't work....I'll tell you a dirty joke :D

Feel better.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:46 AM
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7. I tend to think the same way
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 12:47 AM by populistmom
Everytime I get upset, I usually need to be. I always get in the most trouble when I hide my emotions (or maybe express them, I forget). I think the problem in our whole society sometimes is that people don't want to feel the slightest bit of pain. Let's reach for the drink, or the joint, or the oxycontin, or the prozac, or the paxil instead of just saying to one's self, "I will allow myself to feel like shit for the moment."

A good dirty joke is always good though. :D
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:53 AM
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10. I'll try to get some prepared as a plan B...but it also might be stress
so here is a test to determine if that is what is getting to you:

http://www.lightworkers.ca/main/dolphin.htm
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:56 AM
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11. Okay, I cracked a smile
At least I know I'm still human. :)
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:47 AM
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8. I know it's off topic, but
I have to say again, I have been experiencing times when I should smile, or feel happy, and tears come out. It's embarrassing, and I have hid it well. No one knows, and I don't either. I'm happy in many ways, but just start getting tearful for no reason.

I'm not kidding. Is this other guys have experienced?

If not, I'm ready to shoot myself. It is more than embarrassing. I feel it sometimes at staff meetings for no reason and have to leave for a few minutes until I smack my head a few times and say what the hell.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:59 AM
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13. I don't know what is normal and what isn't
I do notice that you say you SHOULD be happy and that is interesting because...one SHOULD BE exactly where they are at. On more than one occasion you have posted somethings that would lead me to believe you are going through a depression but I am no expert.

I wouldn't bang your head against a wall about it but I do have a feeling that maybe you say to yourself that you SHOULD be doing something else and maybe you just NEED to quit resisting it and have that good cry that has been building up...let it go.

My best friend is a male and I can tell when he needs a good cry because he starts getting very angry...so we have it out, I push his buttons and a few minutes later he is crying and letting it go..it usually happens right about this time of the year when he is getting ready to go see his family......father issues and all.

I DO think it is much harder for men to allow themselves to cry, society and stereotyping being what it is...I DO feel for you...I don't know what to tell you except to let it go.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:53 AM
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9. Saness really is a part of life
and usually we experience it for a reason.

Take care of yourself. Have a glass of wine and have a good long soak in the tub.

:hug:
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 12:57 AM
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12. I think the years and the results
have finally caught up with me.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:12 AM
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14. Speaketh an unconventional shrink....
DISCLAIMER: This is not medical advice. I make no recommendations to the original poster nor to those who may read this beyond friendly conversation. I have no therapeutic relationship with anyone who may read this. This is not intended as a substitute for mental health care in a therapeutic environment if such is needed.

With that out of the way..... To feel is human. You may feel right now that you are "emoting excessively" but there are degrees. If you can see to type and read and aren't dripping snot on the keyboard, you're probably within the tolerances. Don't fret about being cheered up. Instead lie in a dark room on a comfy surface with either cucumber slices or damp tea bags over your eyes and feel the motion of the earth under you. (Duct tape over the mouths of significant others as needed.... or invest next time you see them in those nifty noise cancelling headphones. Kidding about the duct tape....)

If you go through a week (or more) of crying, hiding under the covers and feeling unusually and unexplainably sad, then we might be looking at a chemical imbalance. But one night? That, hon, is called the blues and it's okay. In fact, it's healthy and normal and exactly how we are supposed to work. (Remember, cookies taste sweeter because we put just a little salt in them; happiness feels all the better because we have sadness, too.)

Since I'm a psychologist, I don't prescribe; when it's necessary for a client to have some medication (and sometimes it is) I refer to a psychiatrist and we work together. That said, I have never referred heavily. I believe, to steal a bumper sticker expression, that if you're not pissed off, sad, slightly manic, mildly paranoid, a touch homicidal, and/or all of the above or some combination thereof, you're not paying attention. (The unconventional part of me is that I believe we shrinks should take into account our clients' larger environment and avocations - what political wonk or news junkie isn't outraged these days? And that is not something we should medicate away.) It's been a roller coaster couple of weeks around DU; around the country. and probably, if your life is as chaotic as most of our lives are, around your house.

Paul McCartney had it right - let it be. You know, I used to tell my clients who would get sporadic blues episodes to enjoy them. You've earned your bad/sad/mad/glad mood, so enjoy the sucker! Put in the soppiest, most tragic movie you've got handy and bawl your eyes out if you don't wanna meditate as suggested above. (I like Shakespeare in Love for those moods, but YMMV). Pull out Little Women and read the Beth dies scene, or Anne's House of Dreams or Anne of Green Gables and read the White Lady's death scene or Matthew's death. Enjoy it while it lasts, but don't prolong it and realize that our moods, like water, seek a level.

Brain chemistry seeks a level of homeostasis - a mood that is comme si, comme ca. If you're not evening out after a week or more (and this is assuming no major life changes - no weddings, births, deaths, divorces, estrangements, etc....) then you might want to seek someone to talk to. But one night ... no worries.

Politicat (who is having a ticked off night since she's using her 7 years of advanced education to lay a new floor in her kitchen.... grrrr.....)



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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:24 AM
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15. That is THE greatest post I have read in a long time
Glad the tile was enough of an annoyance to chase you away to post this. Thanks...
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