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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:52 AM
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Woman Bought $1 Million Lottery Ticket With Stolen Credit Card
DOH!

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MEDFORD, Ore. -- A woman bought a winning lottery ticket worth $1 million with a stolen credit card and could wind up with nothing if convicted, police said.

Christina Goodenow, 38, of White City in southern Oregon faced numerous theft-related charges, forgery and possession of methamphetamine, said authorities, who searched her home Thursday. The card belonged to a deceased relative, they said.

If convicted of any of the charges, Goodenow will not be able to collect prize money from the winning ticket, said police Lt. Tim George.

Oregon Lottery officials refused to discuss specifics of the case because an investigation is still under way.

"I'll be fascinated to see how this shakes out," Lottery spokesman Chuck Baumann said. "In my 12 years with the Oregon Lottery, this is the first time I've encountered something like this."

Goodenow purchased the winning ticket Oct. 9 using a credit card that had belonged to her mother-in-law, who died more than a year ago, police said.

http://www.wftv.com/irresistible/5196796/detail.html
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:56 AM
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1. WOW buying lottery tickets with a credit card
that is pretty sad.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:15 AM
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2. She shouldn't get the $$$$$
At the very least it's some sort of fraudulent purchase.

If she had used the stolen card to purchase clothing, jewelery, home electronics, etc, she wouldn't be allowed to keep those items either.

It would be cool if the money went to the person the card was stolen from, but that's very unlikely to happen.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:07 PM
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12. I didn't know that was allowed! Everywhere I go, it's cash only.
:crazy:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:54 PM
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16. yeah, most credit cards don't allow it
so the retailer may have screwed up...There is a different reimbursement scheme for gambling chips, and I would think lottery tickets would count on this front.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:16 AM
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3. The ticket is valid and the winnings should go to the heirs of
the dead person.. (hopefully she is not that heir)
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:45 PM
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10. From a legal standpoint this is actually pretty straightforward.
The million dollar prize isn't relevant from a legal sense, the only thing that needs to be settled is the ownership of the lottery ticket.

The ownership of the ticket WILL end up in the hands of the government, and here's why: In just about every state in this nation, legally purchased items obtained using illegally gained income is subject to forfeiture upon prosecution. This is why they can seize homes and cars when they bust drug users...they're considered to be fruits of the original crime.

Likewise, the family of the dead woman has no claim on this money. The woman didn't purchase it or express any intent to purchase it, so there is zero legal claim to the ticket. If someone steals my credit card and buys a car with it, I can petition for restitution of the money I'm out, but there's no legal claim for me to demand ownership of the car.

Most municipalities have laws to deal with property like this. Typically the property is auctioned or sold, and the proceeds are returned to the local government. In this case, the local government will probably walk away with the winning ticket and cash it in.

It would be a fitting conclusion if they'd use it to fund local anti-drug programs!
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:18 AM
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4. Yet another way to identify a tweaker down at the 7-11
Rotten Teeth?
check!

Face like Ty Cobbs baseball glove?
check!

Cashing in just enough bottles to buy a loosey or some rollie instead of a pack of cigs?
Check!

Parking a stolen bicycle out front and using a flashlight for a headlight?
Check!

Using a credit card of a deceased relative to buy a lotto ticket
?

Oh Yeah!

(priceless)
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:28 AM
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5. Interesting dilemma. Where should the money go?
I think the heirs of the deceased credit card holder could make a compelling case that it should go to them. However, merchandise fraudulently purchased with a stolen credit card doesn't go to the rightful credit card holder, if it is recovered at all. If someone steals your credit card and buys a diamond ring, they aren't going to turn that diamond ring over to you. So, is a lottery prize part of the package of stolen merchandise? If so, it should probably go back to the state lottery where they decide what happens to it.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM
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7. What about the credit card company?
After all, the use of teh card of the dead person doens't use her money, or her credit. It's on the company's dime.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:51 AM
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8. It depends.
How it usually works is if the merchant followed security measures, such as checking that signatures matched, etc. and the merchandise is never recovered, then the credit card company eats the loss. If it is proven that the merchant did not, than the merchant may very well take the hit. Since the merchandise is effectively recovered, I do believe (but I'm not 100% certain) that it will either go back to the merchant or the credit card company. This is such an unusual case; I really don't know what will happen. It's purely speculation on my part.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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15. The more I think about it
The more I think the money will go back to the lottery. I just can't see how any family member can claim that prize, unless any one of them were co-named to that credit account. If no one was, than it should have been closed, and no use by anyone would be authorized.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:35 AM
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6. Haa ha!
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Left Turn Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:34 PM
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9. Wow
I'd hate to have to sort this mess out..my guess is no one is going to end up winning that lottery money.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:05 PM
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11. How was she able to buy a lottery ticket with a credit card?
Lottery tickets are supposed to be purchased with cash or check.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:12 PM
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13. Obviously, some stores aren't following that rule.
As for the woman, she should not be able to keep it. If she bought anything else using stolen credit card, she wouldn't be able to keep it. So, why should she be allowed to keep the winning money?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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14. I wondered that as well.
I know that you can only use cash around here, but I thought that might just be a state thing.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:04 PM
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17. I have bought lottery tickets using a credit card.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:10 PM
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18. It was a battle to get the lottery here in Tennessee
So that may have been one of the provisions to get it passed here. The first time I bought a power ball ticket a couple of weeks ago for the big jackpot, I didn't know and tried to use a credit card, and they wouldn't take it. It had to be cash. It probably varies from state to state.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:31 PM
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19. It is not legal to use a credit card for lottery tickets in Texas.
In my hometown most retailers (gas stations mainly) will not accept a check for tickets either.

Can I use a credit card to pay for Lottery tickets? What about a check?
The State Lottery Act prohibits purchase of tickets by credit or with Food Stamps. Retailers, at their own discretion, may accept a check for tickets. Retailers can accept a debit card for payment.
http://www.txlottery.org/faq/morequestions.cfm
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:31 PM
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20. This is like a redneck version of the O. Henry "Gift of the Magi" story.
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