Pizza Delivery Driver Robbed At Gunpoint, Then Fired From Job

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NORWOOD, Ohio - A pizza delivery driver was fired just two days after he was robbed at gunpoint, News 5's Juliette Vara reported. Stephen Whitis said he pulled up in his truck to deliver a pie in Roselawn earlier this week, and a man was waiting for him.

"I walked up to him," Whitis said. "When I got to him, that's when he showed me the weapon."

The man pointed a gun right at Whitis and demanded all of his money.

"I just tossed him the pizza, reached in my pocket and threw money at him," he said.

The robber got away with more than $200, Whitis said. When he went to work again, one of the owners of the Norwood Papa John's told him he no longer had a job with the company.

:eyes: :argh:

:shrug:

Is there insurance to deal with this kind of thing? Even without it, I would think that $200 is a small price to pay for the kid's safety.

The only questionable aspect is why the kid kept $200 in his pocket. Unless he came from a large order, it would have been safer to bring the money back in. (However, that depends on whether the company would let him).

Too bad the delivery person probably doesn't make enough money to sue. He faced a dangerous situation and did the best they could. They probably should have given him a safe or a protocol to handle relatively large amounts of money.

:shrug:

:shrug: and has nowhere else to keep his money. :shrug:

poor dude. :(

He's a victim here. :cry: :(

I guess I wasn't clear on whether he was keeping his own money in his pocket or money from past deliveries.

Either way, the driver is a victim. Twice over.

On edit: The company is completely to blame for not giving him a "drop box." The reason that they have drop boxes is so the company doesn't lose the money. They didn't provide; they lost out. Their fault.

and trying to get to message to the less than compassionate folks, whomever they are. :silly: :D

brought the money back in before doing another order. But that doesn't make it right, unless this is something the kid had a problem with on a regular basis.

why was a pizza guy carrying 200 bucks in cash? strange. And did they catch the guy who did it? I mean they had his address and phone number.

:shrug: I wondered about the $200 too. (especially carried in his pocket). However, the driver could have just delivered a very large order.

Or maybe he was just a fool. Or a drug dealer, what the hell.

Who bloody cares why.

it's explained in the article:

He told News 5 the owner said he'd violated company policy by carrying too much money. But he said he had no choice -- in the two months he'd been employed at Papa John's, he was never given a drop box.

"Managers are always so busy," he said. "Anytime you ask them for something, they say, 'Hold on, hold on.'"

A store owner said he wouldn't comment and that the matter was being handled internally.

When I delivered food for a living more than ten years ago, I would often be given SEVERAL orders at one time before I even left the restaurant. Very often the orders were for addresses on opposite ends of town, no joke. Even then, I was supposed to deliver the food ON TIME, after fighting traffic, driving to opposite ends of the earth, etc. No time to stop at the restaurant or bank after every single delivery. Sounds like this guy's employer and my former one (who, ironically, was a guy who abandoned the restaurant one day after taking money from the till, to this day I'm owed several hundred in wages but the police, IRS and local news wouldn't do anything but say "this happens all the time, deal with it") are of the same ilk.

Son of a bitch should be fired by corporate.

:grr:

It's a franchise. On personnel matters, managers answer to the store owner, not corporate. Many years ago, I delivered for a Papa John's. In the time I was there they went through a few managers, and they got a lot of latitude over how they ran the store, because the owner let his managers manage and didn't undermine them. One of them wildly sucked, like the assjack being discussed here. He got shitcanned because the owner got sick of having a store full of pissed-off workers. Corporate never had shit to do with any of it. All corporate does is grants you use of the store name and logo, puts you in their supply chain for pizza ingredients, work uniforms and equipment, and provides training materials in exchange for a share of the store's income. Now if the publicity from this incident gives the brand a big enough black eye, corporate will probably lean on the store owner to oust the manager and make things right with the delivery kid, but there's *no way* corporate ordered the kid fired. They have enough to deal with without mucking about in a franchisee's personnel matters.

I smell bullshit. He's supposed to follow a rule, but isn't given the tools with which to follow the rule.
He's right-they don't care about the drivers. That manager should be fired for not giving the guy a drop box on night #1.

Papa John's Pizza
4539 Montgomery Rd
Cincinnati OH
45212-3143
513-731-5959

It's a business, perfectly legal they are in the phone book. I called, they are the ones, they hang up when you ask.

Shall the asskickings begin.

The girl answering the phone is Courtney, just a kid, not her fault. Manager will not come to the phone. They need to give the kid his back pay for this, not the job 'cause apparently the neighborhood really sucks.

Not to resist armed robbers. That's what I was taught when I worked at a fast food restaurant. That's what my sister was taught as a flight attendant until after 9/11.

If they pull out a gun and you can pull out some fingers with some skin on them, they win.

No persons life is worth whatever you have in your till/pocket/whatever

We have a few smaller convenience stores here (not in any of the chains) that have on their employment apps the instruction to 'initial here' that you understand that if you get robbed, the amount taken will come out of your pay.

How is that allowed? It doesn't discourage robbers to make the clerks pay.

but if you could see the level of reading comprehension in the average convenience store worker you'd understand that, by reading it, they don't know what they're getting in to. If it was told to them, they'd never put their initials in the box.

or not. Just because says they can be treated illegally doesn't mean they can legally be treated that way.

And, I've known lots of educated people who have worked in convenience stores for a variety of desperate reasons.

they make you a manager.