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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:50 PM
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Who here has read ""Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them"
"Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them" by Al Franken? Anyone?
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:52 PM
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1. I have
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:52 PM
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2. within 24 hours of when it first came in the bookstores
I'm a fast read!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:52 PM
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3. Why do you ask?
n/t
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:53 PM
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4. Me - in a day and a half.
Questions?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:54 PM
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5. count me in
Al lays it out, too
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:55 PM
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6. I've read it
I really enjoyed the cartoons in that book, though the rest of it was pretty cool, too.
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:55 PM
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7. Yup
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:55 PM
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8. Me
Also read:

Big Lies by Joe Conason
Dude, Where's My Country? by Moore

Working on Bushwacked by Molly Ivins
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:56 PM
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9.  Very fast read...enjoyable....
I've passed it around to friends...
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:00 PM
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10. I have.
It's one of the funniest books I've ever read, but don't expect it to be a classic. You'd have to be pretty familiar with the current political climate to really get into it. It also helps if you don't like Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and the Bush Crime Family. I don't think I would ever quote facts from it since it is a work of satire (as well as a parody of the RW tomes in general).

Highlights:
-Opening sentence: "Asking whether or not there is a liberal bias in the media is akin to asking whether or not Al Qaeda puts too much oil in their hummus." (or something to that effect)
-His use of a passage of Bill O'Lielly's novel Those Who Trespass as a dramatization of the 2000 Florida Election Fiasco.
-And of course, who can beat the title of one of the last chapters of the book "Vast Lagoons of Pig Feces: The Bush Environmental Record"
-The chapter on Wellstone is pretty depressing, but the most poignant.
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:15 PM
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15. Yes, the chapter on the Wellstone was depressing...
and also made me very angry yet again!
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:23 PM
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24. Made me angry too.
I joined Wellstone Action the day after I read it.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:09 PM
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11. Yes, and saw him speak as well
when he was in town recently.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:14 PM
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12. Very quick read-and very entertaining
i saw Al Franken speak in Cambridge and he was funnier than his book.
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:14 PM
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13. Once I started the book
I couldn't put it down.
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TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:15 PM
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14. I haven't read it yet but
I told my girlfriend - "All I want for Christmas is Al Franken's new book"
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:24 PM
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17. There is a correction in the liner notes
of the David Cross CD. He meant to say "absolutely, positively, without a doubt".
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:18 PM
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16. I have
a very good book
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:26 PM
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18. I am reading it right now
The chapter on Barbara Bush is interesting, and I had no idea how "friendly" Franken and Ann Coulter, it was an eye opening experience. Although I haven't finished it yet, so far it is awesome! I peaked at "Supply Side Jesus", even though I am not there yet. i think that this and Blinded by the Right are the 2 best books of there kind. But in all fairness I have yet to read MM's "Dude, where is my country."

Four Stars for "Lies"!
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:32 PM
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19. I am reading it now
Very good so far...

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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:40 PM
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20. fucking bastard liars
here is our problem. we have no voice other than token web sites and some mags. therefore the corrupt right(religious, militaristic, jigoistic, zenophobic, paranoid, corporate) own the airwaves. so they define who they are (virtuistic, morally sound, patriotic, god-fearing) and also who we are (immoral, communistic, unpatriotic, god-haters). i do not want hannity and o'reilly and rush defining who we are. "revolution"
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:09 PM
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21. I have
also "Dude, where's my country?"

Currently reading:
Bushwacked
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annonymous Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:13 PM
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22. I read it.
I actually bought it in hardcover because I wanted to spite Fox News for suing Al Franken.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:21 PM
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23. Got the unabridged audio version
I have a long commute, and the CD version was FANTASTIC, because Franken reads/performs it himself. I have to say that I'd strongly suggest that anyone who hasn't read it yet pick up the audio version instead or, better yet, in addition to the print version.

It's hilarious... and, like a lot of things in life, we laugh because it's funny and we laugh because it's true. (Bobby D. in the Untouchables)

david
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:24 PM
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25. How do they handle the comic-base content...
(like Supply Side Jesus) in the audio book?
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:37 AM
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30. Yes,......I just finished listening to the unabridged audio version also..
I especially liked it because Al read it himself. But also, there were a few places where the audio of actual events were used, as at the Wellstone memorial where the brother of Paul's deceased driver gave his brother's eulogy. It seemed even more moving to hear the brother's actual voice and words (and it was not ONE BIT political)! Hearing the story as a whole makes me even MORE FURIOUS about the way the pukes spun the whole event out of context. Also, I believe there's an actual quote spoken by Max Cleland at another point in the book.

A book well worth reading (I borrowed it from my public library for free.)

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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:28 PM
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26. Yeah! Right here!
I had no idea the whole effin NATION was watching MN when Wellstone left.... No idea... Wow...
I got all kontted in my gut as I read that..
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:29 PM
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27. I just hope it's better than....
..."Oh, the things I know!"

I mean, I'm sure it's better.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:32 AM
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28. I was originally feeling broke...
...and decided I'd just read it while sitting on one of the sofas at the local Borders.

Then I came across the limerick about Ann Coulter.

I realized I had better buy the thing and read it in the privacy of my own home, because, if I ever went into that loud a spasm of laughter again, I was probably going to get banned from the store.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:35 AM
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29. Yes.
I can imagine rereading it someday, too.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:45 AM
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31. yep, I was lucky I read it in one sitting
the next day my friend stole it and since then it has been passed all over New Haven, I doubt that I will ever get it back.
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:19 AM
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32. waddaya think??
;)
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