Eva Longoria Hunts Wild Pigs For Tamales

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NEW YORK -- Christmas is just over a month away, so it's time for Eva Longoria to load up her shotgun.

Longoria told Cosmopolitan magazine that being from Texas, she and her family "kill wild pigs for tamales."

The "Desperate Housewives" star said "hunting is a family thing" and they eat all they kill.

Longoria is such a good shot she beat Kiefer Sutherland and Michael Douglas at a shooting range while filming the movie "The Sentinel."

http://www.wftv.com/entertainment/5285988/detail.html

Although I'm sure most of you guys (& some of you girls) are saying "Yum" for another reason.

:9

:9 They remind me of going to the movies. I will get popcorn and something sweet. Either gummy bears or Hot tamales!!

:loveya:

.... much better than that :)

I thought she was dating that basketball player from France.

Why can't she just be like NORMAL people and buy pork from the grocery store? It's nice and neat. Pink. Sitting on a styrofoam tray, covered with plastic wrap.

The pre-packaged pork from the pork factory is much more sanitary and probably better than the real thing... and you would not have to kill any real animals to do it.

1). Have the entire Longoria family get locked 'n' loaded.

2). Bring along a camera crew.

3). Ready...aim...FIRE!

4). Send the video tape to THIS MAN:



5). Wait 7-10 working days for a response. At the end of that time, Dr. Frist will have diagnosed the video tape and will let you know if they feel pain, and how much. He'll also enclose his favorite recipe for tamales.

:evilgrin:

Or adopt pot-bellied pigs and then skin them?

OH YEAH! A woman after my own heart!!
:loveya: :loveya:

And then to be eaten by her as well? Nirvana.

love interest :puke:

So I like her! :)

Tamales!

:9

"The family what KILLS together, GRILLS together" or some other Jed Clampett-ism.

:evilgrin:

on the corner of Carrollton and Claiborne. Maybe if he ever gets back in (he, daughter and grandchildren were all listed safe at the Astrodome :bounce: ) he can sell "Eva Longoria's Wild Side Hot Tamales" as a seasonal item -- and get her to make a promotiuonal appearance!

Of course, he'd have to find a new corner, as both the stores that drove the traffic at our corner had closed years before the storm hit...

...something that can't possibly defend itself from you.

Cool!

:sarcasm:

:thumbsup:

With the not-so-well endowed hunters and their night vision goggles, drenching themselves in female animal urine...

IMHO, the whole thing is just ridiculously pathetic not to mention stupid.

noone hunts these for fun and yes too they can fight back. If you want a fair fight have a big male vs a bow hunter. They eat anything and often hurt native species when their numbers get out of hand which they have in Florida and many other places.

I love animals and wild ones especially and there is nothing wrong with hunting wild boar. It is a pest and a ready source of very high quality meat. While dangerous they are not overly so, and can live along side mankind like pigeons.

No one hunts these for fun? Seriously...are you kidding? I VERY seriously doubt that. You don't need to go kill that boar or else your family won't eat. Perhaps these whackjobs should stop spending their money on high-powered rifles and $500 bows to hunt with, and buy food for their families instead. I just love how some hunters act like they need the food for their families while toting an $800 rifle. :eyes: It is so pathetic.

If someone killed a boar because they wouldn't eat for a week unless they did then fine. But none of these pathetic yahoos out hunting them are doing it because it's either kill the boar or starve to death.

Human populations are out of control, they kill native species, and they are also pests. I can't kill them (much to my disappointment), can I?

Im sure you could be a cannibal in Uzbekistan or someplace if you wanted to, like in Afrika or something.


Seriously, what do you do with non-native boars ruining and overruning an area? Killing is the only answer and they happen to be extremely tasty to 90 percent of the population. NOw what were we talking about oh boars.. Yes, they are delicious and just there for the taking.

A wild Boar whole proscuitto costs about $150 (2 per boar) Sausages, bacon, basically a very large amount of gourmet stuff. Plus there are too many of them. Plus they are not native. I like them. Their tusks are cool and they are scary. If you saw one, you would run.

If they are non-native, that means some idiot brought them here. So the logical answer doesn't seem to me to punish the animals. Killing is never the only answer...that's absurd.

I'm sure lots of sick shit would be extremely tasty to 90% of the population...but that doesn't mean we should eat it and/or kill it.

I'm sure I would run if I saw one. I'd probably run if I saw an elephant or cheetah. But that doesn't mean I have an uncontrollable urge to go out and kill them for fun. Call me weird, but I don't. :shrug:

Killing is a part of life. Its part of carnivourism. I'm an American carnivour and we are 90% of American human population. I support your right to be a vegan. I'm so glad you are a Democrat. I love and respect you.

But no love from radical vegans for meat eaters. That makes me sad. No just attack after attack. Its okay, but I wish you could see yourself. Useless and convincing nobody, the only way a meat eater will become a vegan is if that person can be convinced for health reasons or ethical reason. Go eat your green food and I hope your fingernails dont fall off or get brittle hair like happened to me when I tried it for about a year. For me, vegan is unhealthy, its genetic or just a matter of being a midwestern American in the present age. Its what I know and love. How can you blame a dog for being a dog?

Or how about the guy who let the 2000 minks go in Michigan? What a cruel act, all those mink starved to death or got eaten by dogs. Every animal that lives, dies eventually. What does a dead animal care what happens to its body, once its dead? For sure the ethical issue is how an animal is treated or its quality of life that happens during its life. As long as the death is not-cruel, I frankly do not understand the ethical problem with meat eating. The Tibetans monks I follow are eat meat and then when they die are given a "Sky funeral" which means their body is eaten by carrion birds. Our entire lives are service to others including the flesh on our bodies. There is a whole sutra written on this subject.

Furthermore, human beings can't eat grass. So we creat animals that do, feed them, house them and you can tell a happy cow from an unhappy cow. It tastes better. I try to buy the most ethically raised happiest damn cows in the whole world and pay double for it. I thank the cow for its life and the cow is always happy to be of service and is grateful for the opportunity to live and feed us. It wouldn't have even existed if it weren't for me, so actually it is thankful one.

Animal husbandry is a huge business that is basically saving the american family farm. For example, Niman Ranch is essentially a collective of quality, ethically, sustainably, non-hormone, non-antibiotic raised cows, pigs and lamb. Its the best; and makes me feel happy as a liberal to be a part of it all.

http://www.nimanranch.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/NimanRanch-NimanRanchStore-Site

for example, slaughter is done with the utmost care and the animals have no idea what's going on. If an animal is mistreated, it basically shoots adrenaline throughout its body and the meat will be tough and bad. So at Niman ranch the animals are never abused or harmed in anyway. They are given grass and feed, not just feed. The calves are kept with their mothers longer. The animals are just happier and they charge about double to the consumer.

Can you possibly see that meat eating is not the problem, or even an issue? Its the treatment of the animals. Its about how they live.


In the case of Wild Boars. Imagine all the squirrels in your neighborhood turned into big pigs. There would be too many. They would start to starve. In the case of Florida and many other places wild boar are ubiquitous and taking a few thousand to eat actually helps the rest of them live well. A wild pig is tremendously destructive to the native species.

I'm sorry if I came across that way - I respect your right to eat meat, but I also have a right to strongly disagree with it.

I've been vegetarian for about 5 years now and my fingernails, hair, and skin have never been better. I've lost weight, have more endurance, and am far, far healthier. My depression symptoms have gone away as well, and I certainly generally "feel" much, much better. Going vegetarian was tough for the first few months (as your body adjusts - it's a big change), but afterwards it was nothing but better. I would never go back to eating meat.

"Or how about the guy who let the 2000 minks go in Michigan? What a cruel act, all those mink starved to death or got eaten by dogs. Every animal that lives, dies eventually."

So does every human, that doesn't mean we think murder is right. That's a silly argument, with all due respect.

"What does a dead animal care what happens to its body, once its dead?"

Okay, so allow animals to live a normal life, then when they die of natural causes, then I'd be ok with people eating them.

"For sure the ethical issue is how an animal is treated or its quality of life that happens during its life. As long as the death is not-cruel, I frankly do not understand the ethical problem with meat eating."

I personally do not think it is ethical for me to eat meat, but my biggest problem with meat eating is how unhealthy it is (the animals we eat today are pumped with antibiotics, vaccines, hormones, etc), and also how cruel it is. Please don't fool yourself into thinking the slaughter of animals is in any way humane - because it isn't.

"Furthermore, human beings can't eat grass. So we creat animals that do, feed them, house them and you can tell a happy cow from an unhappy cow. It tastes better. I try to buy the most ethically raised happiest damn cows in the whole world and pay double for it. I thank the cow for its life and the cow is always happy to be of service and is grateful for the opportunity to live and feed us. It wouldn't have even existed if it weren't for me, so actually it is thankful one."

I'm not sure I agree that 'if it wasn't for me the cow wouldn't have existed' but...it is very good of you to thank the animal for its life and to seek out meat/eggs raised as humanely as possible, and I thank you for doing so. I admire and respect that attitude so much more than the people who are very ignorant and asshole-ish about it. I agree with you that to eat an unhappy animal or an animal that suffered greatly or was traumatized in its slaughter is unhealthy - both karmically and physically. I just think it isn't smart to eat something that suffered so much, not to mention 95% of the animals slaughtered for food today are far from physically healthy, let alone mentally healthy.

"Can you possibly see that meat eating is not the problem, or even an issue? Its the treatment of the animals. Its about how they live."

I wholeheartedly agree with this, but for me personally I just could never eat an animal again - just my personal feeling and certainly one not even a lot of vegetarians would agree to. I just love animals too much to eat them under any circumstances, but again...not trying to say anyone who does is wrong, but I personally could never and would never do it. Sam as I would never eat my human friends even if they tasted REALLY good and they were killed "humanely," I have had too many animal friends in my life (from many different species) to justify eating them even under ideal slaughter circumstances. I personally just don't think it is right.

But again, I respect your meat-eating and think it's way cool that you do your best to go out of your way to buy the best possibly meat (ir, most humanely raised, etc). :)

Like ethical (also happens to be healthy) treatment of animals.

Factory farms where they have 20,000 cows in a small areas are a menace to the health of people, the health of the cows and the impact on the evironment. Mad cow is a real danger there as having all those cows together is a real problem. It ruins the land. Vegans can help with an alliance with people like, heaven forbid, Niman Ranch. Robert Kennedy Jr turned me on to them and he runs the Natural Resourses Defence Council. Anyway they need to be regulated and broken up.

Same thing with factory pig farms. God! If there is a vision of hell its a factory Pig farm. Giant lakes of pig shit. They need to be banned. In fact giant piggie corporations like swift are opening pig factories in Eastern Europe to get away from pesky US environmental laws. I hate that.

Hello? Bird Flu? Flu Pandemic. I will NEVER EVER EAT A CHICKEN FROM Tyson, KFC.. I only buy free range chickens. Happy chickens. Again costs double but totally worth it. NEVER EAT EGGs that are 'cheap' Guaranteed they came from a hell hole.

It sucks that most poor folks in America eat meat from these HORRIBLE meat producers. Cracking down on these abuses is something Vegans and all Americans can agree on. Basically if you are a vegan you should be a Democrat, and all non-vegan Democrats dont want Mad Cow, or Lake Pig Shit or Tyson Bird Concentration Camp Chicken...

Yuck! What a crime. America needs a major reform in the meat industry for the Animals and for the People..



Thanks for talking to me. I like Vegans, they smell nice.

I think America really lost one of it's best "gifts" when we started to lose the family farms, local dairies and meat from local ranches and farms.

Mega corps started the harmonies, anti-biotic, cramped and inhuman feed lots ect... Your family rancher or farmer lives with the live stock and MOST would never treat their animals poorly.

I try to shop the local Farmers Markets for organic grown,(try to grow organic myself too.)I shop for free range chickens and eggs ect... and my Mother-in-law raises organic beef.

If I had big money i'd start a local dairy. I think local, less processed foods are the best.

I know not every one lives near rural areas but if you do try to search out you local growers.

But don't get too attached. Don't give a name to your cow, or else it will be hard at slaughter time. Best to call it something like "meatloaf" if you must name it.

I would like to buy a whole cow from my farmer, but I never was able to do that. Second best is have a butcher who buys direct from the farmer. Butchers' that handle allthe killing/cutting part. That would be too much for me.

I want to have a hobby farm for a retirement idea, for subsistence and small surplus.. I was originally thinking fowl, but who knows?

has a bull called "hamburger" he will never be sent to the butcher. He follows her around like a dog.
Oh well, got to go, eat local!
and good luck with your future farm.

We smell nice? Well gosh, thanks! :)

I would have a hard time arguing against meat-eating if it was 1) more healthy (ie less antibiotics, hormones, other yucky stuff that is so common in meat now) and 2) the raising and slaughtering was much more humane. I totally agree that more ethical raising and slaughtering of animals = healthier and I'm sure better tasting meat. I still personally wouldn't eat it, but I know lots of vegetarians who would, since many go veg for ethical and health reasons.

Yeah, KFC and Tyson are horrible. I think that, as you say, when animals are allowed to have a semi-normal life with fresh air, good food, room to do the things they are meant to do - they will produce better quality food. And probably healthier food, too. I always wondered if they needed all the antibiotics and crap because the way the animals lived was so deplorable.

I guess I just see a big difference between a family raising Bessie the cow on their farm for several years, and when the time comes they need the meat they go out and quickly kill her on the farm. Usually the life the animal had was a pretty darn good one, and trauma to the animal is minimal and the killing process is quick. Compare that to animals born into disgusting, abhorrent conditions, used as dairy cows and forced to stand in a 4x10 concrete stall for years and years on end in their own feces never seeing sunlight or smelling fresh air, then when their milk is done they are sent to slaughter. That usually involves a cross-state trek crammed like sardines in a truck (no food no water for days), and half the cows are severely injured with no treatment of course (broken legs, etc) or die on their way to the slaughterhouse. There they watch and smell other cows being slaughtered for an hour before it is their "turn" and usually take around 3-6 minutes to die after their tracheas are ripped out. Talk about trauma - I just think if nothing else, it's bad karma to eat something that had a life like that. You're just eating misery, suffering, and pain.

Anywho, sorry to go off there. But I wholeheartedly agree - major reform in the meat industry benefits animals *and* people for sure. It's been nice actually having a reasonable conversation, and I thank you for that! :hi: I think vegetarians and meat-eaters often share more common goals than thy realize with regard to healthier food and better treatment for the animals.

Have you ever worked in a slaughterhouse or a meat-packing plant? I have. Have you ever transported cattle (cows give milk, cattle are raised for meat) in a tractor-trailer? I have. Are you aware of the strict rules that apply to the watering of said animals and the penalties to the transporting agent if not followed? I do.

I would have to say that almost all the things that you alluded to in your post just do not happen on a regular basis, as the penalties would be too stiff, let alone the loss of quality of the animal.

Some of the most sickly animals that I have ever seen come from the so-called "family farms" that do not have the money to keep up the health of their livestock. That is why they are being auctioned off.

If you actually believe that dairy cows are forced to stand in a stall their whole life and never see the light of day, I would like for you to state one documented instance of this happening. That farmer would have a bunch of very dead cows before too long. That would be the end of his livelyhood and he would go out of business. In the real world dairy cattle are allowed movement out to pasture on a daily basis, and are only inside the milking parlor twice a day.

Like many other militant vegans, you are long on emotion but short on your facts. It does not help support your position.

I sure hope that you take good care of your animals. Don't sell them if they get too old. Put them down humanely, or chances are they will be auctioned off for slaughter and sent overseas where there is a high demand for horsemeat. That, I'm afraid, is a fact.

"Are you aware of the strict rules that apply to the watering of said animals and the penalties to the transporting agent if not followed? I do."

Yes, and who is going to enforce this? There are lots of strict rules that are rarely enforced and even more rarely punished when violated.

"I would have to say that almost all the things that you alluded to in your post just do not happen on a regular basis, as the penalties would be too stiff, let alone the loss of quality of the animal."

Wrong. I have seen many, many videotapes and photos taken within just the *last year* that have exhibited things far more cruel that what I have written about abive. Are you seriously trying to make the case that the mass slaughtering of animals today is more humane than cruel? You have got to be kidding me.

"Some of the most sickly animals that I have ever seen come from the so-called "family farms" that do not have the money to keep up the health of their livestock. That is why they are being auctioned off."

Okay...still doesn't make it right. And, I disagree with you, but nonetheless...

"If you actually believe that dairy cows are forced to stand in a stall their whole life and never see the light of day, I would like for you to state one documented instance of this happening."

Ha, if you're ever in central PA, I'll take you to a farm down the road and you'll see it for yourself. I've called the SPCA about 16 times about them and thanks to the "really strict laws" you talk about there's nothing they can do.

"That farmer would have a bunch of very dead cows before too long."

Yes, and he does.

That would be the end of his livelyhood and he would go out of business."

Nope. Thanks to the ridiculous laws and protections for people who do this, there is no "going out of business." This farmer down the road from me has at least one cow die a week and after 11 years is still in business. He gets all kinds of subsidies and shit from the state and federal government to stay in business. It simply doesn't benefit most farmers to treat their animals well - it benefits them to do the bare minimum and often less to maximize profit. And most of the farmers in my area definitely subscribe to that philosophy.

"In the real world dairy cattle are allowed movement out to pasture on a daily basis, and are only inside the milking parlor twice a day."

What farms does this happen at, because I haven't come across many in Pennsylvania. I'd estimate around 80-90% don't get turnout weekly, let alone daily. Factory farming methods don't typically do this by any stretch of the imagination.

"Like many other militant vegans, you are long on emotion but short on your facts. It does not help support your position."

Excuse me, but you do not know me well enough to say I am "militant" so please stop with the attitude. If you have something you'd like to say, do it without the childish name-calling and overblown rhetoric. I realize it's probably easier for you to mentally just write me off as a "militant vegan" but you have no right to say what "I am." You don't know me at all, so if you'd like to have a real debate then please do so, but do it without making ridiculous assumptions about someone you don't even know. Thanks.

"I sure hope that you take good care of your animals. Don't sell them if they get too old. Put them down humanely, or chances are they will be auctioned off for slaughter and sent overseas where there is a high demand for horsemeat. That, I'm afraid, is a fact."

You're goddamned right I do. NONE of my animals would EVER be for sale or given away. And I do mean EVER. I don't need a lecture from you about where animals who are old go - trust me, I know far too well. I've spent half my life rescuing animals from auctions.

Name calling? Read my post. Read yours. You make my case. And, no, I don't know you. And you don't know me. I did not call anyone a name, I made an observation based on your opinion.

If I can't disagree with you without you dealing in absolutes, then there is no dialog or room for discussion. Believe me when I say that there is room for improvement in many farming or livestock operations, just as I have seen people that own horses that have no clue as to the upkeep or proper vet care of their animals. It seems like a good idea to have a horse for the kids, but then they get older and lose interest and the condition of some of these animals is pitiful. It pains me to see any animal not treated humanely.

Try hauling livestock across Nebraska and go into an ag inspection station. If you don't have your shit together, you can get into some VERY serious trouble. They DO NOT FUCK AROUND and are dead serious about inspection. Jail time is an option for those that do so.

Hell, I've worked in a law firm. Nice folks. That mean all lawyers are nice folks. I'll give everyone a minute to think about that.

I, on the other hand HAVE been. I've been to slaughterhouses. I've been to a veal processing plant. I've pulled live (though dying) chickens from manure lagoons. I've rescued pigs from a highway after a truck broke down and they started overheating.

So, to answer your questions from an absolute standpoint:

Your "penalties" (I suppose from the *guffaw* USDA) are for shit. How many inspectors do they have? How many surprise inspections. OHHHHHHHH, that's right...such success...no Mad Cow nor ecoli here, right?

The requests for "documented instances" are laughable at best.

As for your dairy cattle delusions, you keep them if you sleep better.

Yeah, militant vegan with facts here. Deal with it.

And do you have a picture?

Here's my boys - they are Friesian horses (from the Netherlands):



Here's me riding my one Friesian gelding, Oliver:



And here's Oliver at his keuring (this is where judges from the Netherlands come over the judge the Friesians in North American on conformation, temperment, movement, etc. Oliver was selected for "Ster" which is the highest award a gelding can receive - yes, I'm proud of him!)

The real problem is the non-native issue. Sure some asshole brought them over here, but as far as these boars go, that happened over 400 years ago, so I don't think recognizing that introducing the species was wrong will do any good now. It was stupid, but it is already done.

There is a massive problem in the Great Lakes right now where the Goby, a non-native carnivorous fish is destroying the native species. these guys are spreading into tributaries feeding into the lakes and have been found in NY independent lakes. They destroy native species and cause massive problems with the ecosystem by eliminating a whole level of the food chain. Now I grant you many people care less about fish than they do about boars, but the damage to the eco-system is the same. We should be preserving the last of the northern Florida native forests. Many people focus on the everglades, but the northern Florida forest is being eroded by the day. Where we are not building houses, boars are destroying the native rodent species, which in turn destroys the hunting birds (who match up well against a rabbit or raccoon, but get pretty much beaten by a 400 lb boar) Florida, the Carolina and Georgia share this problem I'm all for finding another way to control or eliminate the boar population, but until you do, I support hunting them.

On a side note, good for both of you being able to respect each other's differences. I have to jet, but I wanted to poke in my two cents.

Hope they don't get to the great lakes. Nasty looking things. They jump up into the boats for some reason. Giant 10 pound carps leaping up into the air hitting people in the boats.

And Kudzu? Ruins Tennessee.

I bet there's crocodiles in the sewers or snakes might come up thru the toilet and biting your butt soon.

Or to bring in some other predator to eat them :eyes:

and stop wasting their damn time rummaging around the woods looking for grubs and trying to screw each other; laziness never got anyone anywhere.

you really should be more kind to animals :eyes:

Just saying, I've never had wild pigs before, I wonder if it's better for you than domesticated pigs.

wild boar bacon is better than normal bacon, its got more flavor.

https://www.dartagnan.com/index.asp

i wanna try the wild boar proscuitto

Wild meats are usually low in fat and high quality protein and they aren't spiked with hormones or antibiotics.
The problem is the consistency of the meat. You may shoot a young wild boar and have a wonderful meal. On the other hand you could wind up taking a aged boar and the meat could be tough and stringy. At least with domestic pork, the pigs are processed at the same age so the quality of the meat is consistent and uniform. Their diet is also controled and uniform. A wild boar eats whatever is out there or whatever it finds.
It's kind of the risk you take when you eat wild meats. You can get something all-natural BUT you don't have the luxury of uniform quality.

I ran into this with venison. A buddy gave me some venison that was taken from a spikehorn (young) buck he had taken during the season. A little later another friend gave me some venison that was taken from a much larger but also much older deer. The differences in the meat were very obvious. The meat from the older deer was tougher and you had to cook it in a stew or something to tenderize it.

I wanna wild boar tamale!

Wild boars are everywhere. They should be ethically hunted and used. I love wild boar meat. The taste is like pork but leaner.

Wild boar products are well available now.

Wonder if she can break down an AR15, clean it, and put it back together.

They're non-native, destructive, and TASTY.

Also, there are a LOT of them, especially in the southeast, where there are no natural predators (except the cougars which don't exist :scared: ).

I'd rather see a pig live a happy, wild life and die from a bullet than see a pig raised in a small concrete stall.

And it's better to shoot a pig for food than shoot a buck because it had big antlers.

she's way too much of an attention whore

And this is comin from somebody who's never seen one ep of Desperate Housewives

way to much exposure on magazines and tv, i'm tired of them already.

Tell you what Eva, you grab a meat cleaver and set out on the "hunt" and see what happens...