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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:37 PM
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UK Government Loses Vote on Anti-Terror Bill in House of Commons!
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,15935,1637542,00.html

Blair defeated on terror bill

· 291 vote for 90-day amendment; 322 against
· 49 Labour MPs rebel
· Commons backs 28-day detention by 323-290
· PM must 'consider position' - Howard


Tony Blair's government tonight suffered its first ever defeat since coming to power, as MPs voted down proposals to allow police to hold terrorist suspects for 90 days without charge.


This definitely shakes Tony Blair's authority. My guess is, this is the beginning of the end for him. He'll be gone soon.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:41 PM
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1. Tony, you let me down...
So glad when you bounced Major out of the PM spot, now you're nothing but Georgie's lapdog...
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:45 PM
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2. It'll be all downhill from now on
He's a dead duck, politically. Should have gone a year ago, but what prime minister does that? It was Enoch Powell who said (one of his wiser statements) that "all political careers end in failure." And so they must, because what leader thinks of quitting when things are going well? So, they either quit after losing an election, or they are pushed by their party, which is always ugly.

For this reason, your term limit on Presidents seems quite wise. Even if the Republicans only did it because they were so pissed at Roosevelt. :)
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:55 PM
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3. Come on people this actually means something!!!
I know, this is the lounge and all...
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:55 PM
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4. Cya poodle boy!
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:01 PM
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5. I know none of you care
but I'm going to kick it anyway... :P
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steveofwalmart Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:04 PM
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6. blair, who next
until the war on terror thing, blair has been one of our best primeministers ever. he has a lot of political intelligence even if I dont agree with the direction. its a case of devil you know vs devil you dont.

gordon brown will probably be next primeminister - he is correctly more to the left - but his competence as a leader is unknown. in some ways blair reminds me of germany's Bismark character - with all his many allegiances and contacts and with that, influence beyond the apparant.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:29 PM
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7. I don't think Brown is more to the left
It was he who championed the Private Finance Initiative, and forced the same kind of break-up of the London Underground that had caused such problems with our rail network. I don't think Brown is any lefty, he just talks the Labour party's language better than Blair does. I'm not sure there is so much daylight between them at all.
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Truebrit71sbruv Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:23 PM
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8. No... wait a second... I have a cigarette-paper...
... let's see if I can squeeze it between them...












Nope...

Bugger... I should have just used it with some baccy...
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