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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:07 PM
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My E-Bay account was hacked into!!
Sucky, huh?

They tried to sell a 'Dale Chavez Saddle Bag Show Saddle' for $2500 with a check/money order only listing.

I got tipped off when they tried to change the e-mail address on the account. Luckily, I caught it before they changed the password. Not too smart of a character though. He should have changed the password first :-)

Also lucky is that the password that was on that account is different from any other password I use.
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:24 PM
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1. Hmm...
Dale Chavez is a pretty big name for western show saddles, showmanship halters, and bridles. I'll state the obvious: it's someone who has horses and rides/shows western!

Sorry to hear that - but hope it gets straightened out. Makes you wonder how these people sleep at night. *shakes head*
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:31 PM
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2. They probably don't even have a saddle.
They'll take the money and run, leaving me to pay for it.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:52 PM
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20. How would you "get stuck paying for it?
If you are the victim of fraud you wouldn't have to pay for anything.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:34 PM
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3. I had something similar happen at Amazon.
I think someone got my email off of Craig's List and thought they might get lucky if I had an account with Amazon, which I do. They sent me a fake email allegedly from Amazon inquiring about my financial info for my account information. I checked with Amazon and they stated they don't deal with financial info via email.

This is one fucked-up world. When the economy sucks, fraud is rampant.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:59 PM
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6. That happened to me 2 weeks ago.
I got suspicious when they needed not only my credit card #, but also the PIN and the code on the back. The e-mail said "do not contact us, as this will delay processing." So I checked with Amazon - sure enough, it was NOT their doing.

I hope they prosecute the bastards.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:34 AM
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9. No offense intended, but anyone who falls for that obvious of an e-mail
deserves to get their credit card used fraudulently :-)

It's one thing if they happen to ask for your credit card over e-mail. You should know that's plain fraud, but I can see some people not thinking about it. But when they ask for the PIN as well, I would hope that it would be clear as day.

Glad you didn't fall for it.

At first, I thought that e-mail from E-Bay about the e-mail address change was fake, since I get a bunch of fake e-mails supposedly from E-Bay and Paypal, but checked out my account just in case. Lucky I did.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:56 AM
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10. They were very clever.
They had a link to a form to fill out. The form was a perfect imitation of the Amazon board, including graphics, etc. It really looked legit.

I was lucky. I almost fell for it (and I'm pretty quick with stuff like that).
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:41 AM
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11. Good thing you didn't!
You'd be out a bunch of money probably.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:47 AM
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12. Well, considering it's my debit card -
there's definately a limited amount! But yes, I'm very, very lucky.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:31 AM
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15. No reputable company...
... will EVER send you such an email.

If you want to see easy proof that it is fake, notice that the link they show you is not the link you will go to.

Hover your mouse over the link and most browsers will show you the actual URL you'd be visiting in a "tips" window or on the status bar at the bottom of the screen. Invariably, the URL will be something like this....

http://212.45.112.4/ebay/signup.html

It is trivially easy to steal logos and make a page look real. The URL is all that matters.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:43 PM
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17. Amazon will never ask for info like that over email
If there's an issue with your card, they will email you and ask you to fax them the billing info. My BF ordered the new iMac from them last week as a gift to me and they sent him an email like that.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:55 AM
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13. They're pretty slick, really.
I wouldn't say people deserve it if they fall for it; nobody deserves that. Some people aren't savvy enough to check. It's very upsetting to me to know there are vulnerable people out there falling victim to this sort of crap.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:40 PM
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16. You got phished
You ought to forward the offending e-mail to the proper authorities.

Preferably the FBI.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:11 PM
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21. I forwarded it to Amazon.
Believe me, they're looking into it.

I got Phished? And I never consented - I feel so - dirty.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:43 PM
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18. I just got that email today
and nope, I didn't click on the link to verify.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:46 PM
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19. Heres the fake email SO everyone will know what it is
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

Your bank has contacted us regarding some attempts of charges from your credit card via the Amazon system. We have reasons to believe that you changed your registration information or that someone else has unauthorized access to your Amazon account Due to recent activity, including possible unauthorized listings placed on your account, we will require a second confirmation of your identity with us in order to allow us to investigate this matter further. Your account is not suspended, but if in 48 hours after you receive this message your account is not confirmed we reserve the right to suspend your Amazon registration. If you received this notice and you are not the authorized account holder, please be aware that it is in violation of Amazon policy to represent oneself as another Amazon user. Such action may also be in violation of local, national, and/or international law. Amazon is committed to assist law enforcement with any inquires related to attempts to misappropriate personal information with the intent to commit fraud or theft. Information will be provided at the request of law enforcement agencies to ensure that perpetrators are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.





To confirm your identity with us click here:
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=pd_irl_gw_r/103-3177084-7567864?opt=oa&page=recs/sign-in-secure.html

After responding to the message, we ask that you allow at least 72 hours for the case to be investigated. Emailing us before that time will result in delays. We apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause you and we would like to thank you for your cooperation as we review this matter.




Thank you for your interest in selling at Amazon.com.

Amazon.com Customer Service
http://www.amazon.com

This message and any files or documents attached may contain classified information. It is intended only for the individual or entity named and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient or authorized to receive it, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately then delete it from your system. Please also note that transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free

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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:18 PM
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22. "This message may contain classified information"...
What is this, the CIA?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:48 PM
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4. That happened to me two years ago
Someone from New York City successfully altered not only my password but also my listed address. Then they tried to sell a high level camcorder for $1500, taking advantage of my feedback.

Luckily the eBay system caught it and canceled the auction. The dunces had tried to change my password and address in the morning then start the big ticket auction within a few hours. I guess that rang some bells. Fortunate for me because I was vacationing and not on the internet for a month. I had no idea what happened until I returned home and my account was listed as suspended. I had to go through a change of user name via live help but it went smoothly and I was able to transfer my feedback. The only problem was I had to use a different email address, not the previous or standard one.

An eBay employee made the mistake of giving me the exact address the person used while changing my account. I contacted a fraud commission and reported them. Later eBay denied giving me the address but when I insisted it happened they admitted the employee made a mistake. I have no idea why they were trying to protect someone who hacked their website. I was only able to make a specific report once I had the address in New York City.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:54 PM
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5. I would have flown to the person's address and kicked the crap out
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 11:56 PM by merwin
of him :-)
:kick:
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:28 AM
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7. It was damn tempting
Especially since I vacation in Saratoga every summer so not far away. The next summer, 2004, I took a train into New York City to spend the day and almost headed to the address, but bailed out. No telling if it was a legit home address or a phony where they could just pick up a mailed money order. Just in case, I made sure they received plenty of bonus junk mail:)
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:31 AM
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8. Haha. Junk mail would probably piss him off more.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:19 AM
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14. stuff like that happened to me
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 08:22 AM by Rich Hunt
At work! We use some sites to buy things for work, and sometimes when I went to use an account, the password was changed, the account info was changed, addresses were changed.

That is correct, too, about people using other people's accounts because they
have good feedback, etc. I've dealt with a few 'sellers' who tried to sell me bad
goods (or no goods) using other people's accounts. After a time, I noticed that there are some sellers the fraudsters won't touch...
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