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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:50 PM
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going to go pick up a new pellet stove tomorrow.... yes
whitfield profile fs30. any comments.
replacing a pellet stove we purchased in '92

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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:53 PM
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1. do you ever have to empty the ashes,
or is there no "waste"?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:54 PM
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2. I love my pellete stove
About once a year, the whole thing needs cleaning. Works great. Non-polluter. I love it. Warms the whole house.
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:58 PM
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3. verrrrrryyyyy interesting. I've always wondered.
But my father-in-law says the pellets are expensive....do you think they are?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:02 PM
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6. Here the pellets cost 162.00 a ton and we use 2 ton a year
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:13 PM
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13. Where are you located?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:23 PM
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19. 30 minutes east of tulsa down hw 412
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 03:24 PM by madokie
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importDavid Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:13 PM
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14. So...
Do you not have to externally vent these things?

Can you just feed it pellets to burn and not have smoke/toxins come out of it?

That would be outstanding!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:25 PM
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No you vent them to the outside by way of 3" vent pipe
directly through the wall or a chimney, whatever best suits your application
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:29 PM
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24. Non-polluter?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:33 PM
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28. compare the alternatives
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:35 PM
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29. Lets compare to electric? or natural gas?
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 03:39 PM by TX-RAT
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:39 PM
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32. I'm sorry, cost or pollution
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:43 PM
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35. You said it was a non-polluter
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:46 PM
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36. No I said it has to be vented to the outside byway of a 3" vent pipe
sorry if I misled you. but they are very nonpolluter. 0.41 grs an hr. I believe at full output.
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:40 PM
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33. Wow...so many people I know are now using wood-burning stoves...
can't win for losing.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:13 PM
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46. I was raised heating with cordwood
and spent most of my life using one, then I got a wild hair and bought a pellet stove and have never looked back.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:31 PM
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25. sorry, double post
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 03:32 PM by TX-RAT
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:00 PM
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4. Yes, the pedestal is an ash container and you have to empty
it from time to time. Our stove now we only empty the ashes maybe 3 times a winter for a total of maybe 2 gallons of ash.
real efficient. Our stove cost $1100.00 in '92 and has saved us 8 to 9 hundred bucks a year.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:01 PM
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5. I am curious
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 03:04 PM by Malva Zebrina
that stove appears to need no flu. Is the idea that you feed it those pellets that are next to it? Looks like it. What is the cost of the stove and the pellets? How long do they last? I am interested because we have a wood stove that we seldom use for heat, as it cuts off the furnace in our rather primitive dirt floor cellar and then the pipes freeze. We keep it in case of power outage, but have used a kerosene heater most times in that case.

on edit

LOL, I see my questions have already been answered.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:05 PM
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7. 3 inch flue directly through the wall in my case
for a total lengh of 24 inches.
so clean no mess at all, pellets come in 40 lb bags, little effort to put them in the stove at all.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:08 PM
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10. Did you get it locally? I'm very close to you and interested too
thanks
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:13 PM
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12. Yes in Mannford
Martin services inc.
Seems to be really nice people to deal with.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:15 PM
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15. I'm in stillwater...
where do you get pellets? Are they readily available? We're shopping for a new wood burning stove, mainly because I'm uncertain about pellet availability. I haven't spent $ on wood for 3 years since an ice storm took out 3 huge pecans and an oak.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:20 PM
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17. every where from Lowes to walmart
most all feed store, I live out here in the boonies and I have at least 8 or 10 choices. becoming real popular. when we bought our first stove in '92 there were only about 4 or 5 places close, who sold them. check out the pellet stoves at least, we heat all year for 2 ton of pellets.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:24 PM
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20. And who's the dealer for the stove?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:28 PM
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23. Many dealers
Our first we bought at sutherlands lumber in tulsa
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:43 PM
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47. Okay, thanks!
KS
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:09 PM
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11. Pellets dump in the top
I has a flue, a rod you pull out and adjust. This is generally speaking, models vary. Out here a ton of pellets is $138. Lowes have them for $2.47 a 40lb bag. I have a wood stove. Cost of wood "0".
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:06 PM
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8. any idea how they compare to air-tight wood stoves?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:08 PM
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9. really no comparison
pretty much on a different level
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:16 PM
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16. do you mean pellets are much better than a good wood stove?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:22 PM
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18. like I said no comparison
we used an ashley wood stove before and we won't ever go back.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:51 PM
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38. We are on our third season....
Clean the flue once a year....dump the ash pan once per ton....we'll burn about 1-3/4 tons....

Im in wisconsin. We have a Harmon Accentra...



I did a lot of research. Much cleaner than cord wood stoves. (hell of a lot easier too...)

We bought our 90 40 lbs. bags of pellets from local building supply.

It is a renewable - Biomass fuel. Greenhouse gas nuetral.

We also add corn to extend our wood supply. I buy a few hundred punds of corn too.

Infrastructure cost for wood pellet fuel mfg and delivery is many times lss than fossil fuels.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:56 PM
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41. Yes I like that stove but not available here at this time, non in stock
I sure like their heat control system. Would you be able to go back to burning cordwood? Only if I had to.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:25 PM
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21. Here are some pellet stove links I just dug up...
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:25 PM
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22. I want one
if i could afford it. Luckily we have electric heat at our apartment and it is PAID! :D
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:31 PM
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26. Just google wood pellet stoves and check them out. lots of different ones
the first patent was in '84 to whitfield
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:36 PM
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30. Oh, I've gotta do this..
I live way out in the boonies, no gas heat, and wood burning is warm and all but work and smoke intensive. The old heat pump just doesn't do much when its below 30. gotta get one of these.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:41 PM
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34. You'll love it
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:33 PM
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27. So what are the advantages of pellet over a regular wood stove?
I'm thinking of getting an external wood stove next year, and would be interested in any information you've got.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:38 PM
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31. I would love an external wood stove but can't afford it
Pellets compared to regular wood, really no comparison. Pellets you bring in the house in a plastic bag of 40 lbs no bugs under the bark in hibernation or anything, very clean burning. Coming into our home you would never think we use a wood product in heating, no mess no smell.
:toast::hi:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:50 PM
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37. Sounds great, but impratical for my situation`
Here in Missouri, any interior wood or pellet burner almost always jacks up your insurance rate, thus I'm going with the external stove.
Also, I've got a 2400 sq ft house, two level, and I need to pipe hot air through the ducts in order to heat the whole place.

But it sounds great for you, congratulations. Anything to get further off the grid, and become part of the solution:toast:

But this is how I'm affording an external woodstove<img src="" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

Bajaj motor scooter, 55-60mph, 100mpg, saves me four-five bucks everytime I go to work.

Hope your pellet stove works well for you, and remember, keep the pipes clean, we don't won't a chimmney fire:hi:
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:55 PM
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40. Check to make sure....
Wood pellet stoves are classifed the same way as a natural gas stove heater would be. They are vented the same way.

That is because the fuel is a controlled feed. the burn box is not exposed to the air and you don't open the door to feed more fuel.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:59 PM
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42. properly installed, no surcharge on insurance rates here.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:01 PM by madokie
cord wood stove= increase insurance cost.
on edit: like the scooter. but shouldn't you walk instead... Just kidding
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:55 PM
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39. External wood stoves...
Are not as efficient as the newer epa certified indoor models which are as much as 75% efficient.

http://www.woodheat.org/q&a/qaoutboiler.htm

http://www.motherearthnews.com/menarch/archive/issues/189/189-043-1.htm

I'm going with a woodstove instead of a pellet stove, largely because I own woods. :)

Wood and pellet stoves are easier on the environment because they do not add CO2 to the atmosphere. (a tree is grown to replace one that is burned)

http://www.woodheat.org/why/feelgdbro.htm

I not only intend on installing a woodstove in my house, I also intend on placing a water heating coil (heat exchanger) on it to preheat my domestic water.

What I wish, is that I was a skilled enough craftsman to build on of these;


http://www.gulland.ca/homenergy/stove.htm
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:59 PM
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43. I also have some woods, thus efficiency isn't as big a deal with me
But the increase in insurance rates with indoor stoves is a big minus for me, as is the fact that a woodstove in the basement would have a hard time heating the house completely or evenly.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:06 PM
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45. Personally the way I solved that is I connect my stoves
convection blower to the ducts in the floor so the warm air expelled in the front room comes from my bedrooms, warm air goes back to replace the cold air removed at the floor level = very consistent heat throughout the house.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:52 PM
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48. The furnace cold-air return is about 10' from my woodstove...
... at ceiling height. I can run the furnace fan periodically to spread the heat around.

I will also put convection vents to upstairs through the interior walls, but I don't expect that they'll do too much.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:03 PM
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44. 81% for the whitfield
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