Cheerleader types aren't nearly as snobby as art school chicks

brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:03 PM
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Cheerleader types aren't nearly as snobby as art school chicks

Yes, this a popcorn-eating post.

I've found cheerleader-types much more friendly in normal conversation than I have artsy chicks. The latter usually only have eyes for the better-than-average looking "cool" type of guys.

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:04 PM
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1. Or as hot.

Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 04:05 PM by primate1

But most of the art girls I know are really friendly. (And I am neither "better-than-average looking" or "cool".)

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:11 PM
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6. ah, I knew there was a reason that I liked you!

:hi:

as a former "arty chick," ( now an arty mom) I have to say that the OP is incorrect and that those of us who were not cheerleaders were capable of liking all kinds of guys.

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ghostsofgiants

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:15 PM
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15. Haha...

Well, I'm an artist myself (or at least I pretend to be), so most of the females I know are from artistic backgrounds as well, and they're all awesome.

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JVS

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:05 PM
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2. This thread is useless without pictures

:popcorn:

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:14 PM
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13. I tried searching for some art school girl images

But I couldn't find nothin'.

:(

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GirlinContempt

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:47 PM
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74. heres one

Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 05:48 PM by GirlinContempt

Or more

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AlCzervik

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:08 PM
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3. Aren't cheerleaders supposed to be "Cheery" ie...nice and friendly

Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 04:08 PM by chimpsrsmarter

thats kind of their job you know. :D

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:08 PM
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4. Give me an "M"... Give me an "I"... Give me an "S" ... Give me an "O"...

Give me a "G"... Give me a "Y"... Give me an "N"... Give me an "I"... Give me an "S"... Give me a "T"

WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:11 PM
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7. I don't know about misogeny.

Painting with a broad brush, sure, but it doesn't seem hateful really.

Of course, this is coming from a guy that defies most stereotypes and has been painted with nearly all of them at some point, so maybe I'm just thinking of the statement with a less serious lens.

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:12 PM
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9. Wow... That was a joke... but... ok.

:shrug:

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:13 PM
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11. I wasn't getting pissed at you by any means.

I'm sorry if I came off that way. I'm just talking.

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:14 PM
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12. Peace...

I think we both misinterpreted. :hi: :pals:

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:17 PM
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17. But of course

:hug:

I only took what you said slightly seriously because I could've seen where you were coming from.

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:22 PM
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77. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:23 PM
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78. I guess you didn't read the rest of our exchange.

Seems you have misunderstood.

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:31 PM
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81. Maybe

Hard to say. You did agree with CommiePinkoDirtbag's assessment.

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:33 PM
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82. Indeed I did. I often do agree with him.

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:12 PM
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8. there does seem to be a lot of it about today, no?

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ghostsofgiants

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:13 PM
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10. I'm probably gonna catch a lot of shit for this question, but...

How exactly does comparing the general demeanor of cheerleaders and art school girls equate to misogyny?

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:48 PM
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56. stereotypes such as "all arty women are crazy"

or all cheerleaders are friendly could be seen that way. Kind of a refutation of the idea that women are so easily categorized.

Could as easily be true of sterotypes of men.

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:18 PM
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18. Very funny

But I'm just relating my personal experience. I see some unsmiling female walking down the sidewalk carrying one of those giant black portfolio cases, and I know in advance to walk the other way.

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:26 PM
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79. I'm sure she would appreciate that.

;)

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Sat Nov-19-05 07:01 PM
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83. ....

:rofl:

:popcorn:

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:08 PM
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5. Having dated many and nearly married one artsy chick

Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 04:21 PM by Vash the Stampede

This is true because most of them are extremely condescending to anyone they perceive isn't "worthy" of their opinion. Most of them have an inferiority complex, usually from their families who don't think they're doing anything "valuable" with their lives and intelligence.

Still, give me an artsy chick over a cheerleader type anyday. If you crack the armor, they can be fascinating. Of course, they're also usually insane, which is why I only nearly married one.

On edit: I did not mean to imply all artsy women are like this - just basing it on my own experience, of which I have quite a bit. I apologize for the broad brush.

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:14 PM
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14. hey I was an arty chick and I'm not insane

and have been happily married for years. Now I'm an arty mom.

I'd say that statement qualified as a pretty broad generalization, Vash.

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BreweryYardRat

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:18 PM
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19. Not really.

It's more accurate than you might think. I plead the Fifth on how I know this.

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:49 PM
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57. c'mon

a lot of women artists are quite intriguing, smart and sane.

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BreweryYardRat

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:22 PM
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66. Probably, but I've seen the other side.

Family member...put me off ever considering dating an artist.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:20 PM
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21. I'm sorry, I should've qualified my statement more.

I meant to add an "in my experience". And having dated (meaning more than 3 dates) 6 artsy women and was recently engaged to one, my experience with all of them has been that they were all quite unbalanced. Now, I'm not stupid enough to believe that they are all like that by any means, and I'm sorry for implying that.

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:43 PM
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47. I'm teasing you a little

there seem to be a lot of assumptions about women and men being bandied about today.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:45 PM
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51. Eh, it happens everywhere, everyday.

With all the broken hearts in the world, it's impossible for silly assumptions not to be bandied about.

Personally, I think all men AND women are flat out insane. I think the key to life is finding the one woman or man who's insanity fits in best with your own and running with it. :-)

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:56 PM
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62. fair point

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Truebrit71sbruv

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:38 PM
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43. "Unabashed Broad-Brush Use Scandal in DU Lounge"...

... read all about it in the Nashunal Ink-Wirer

:evilgrin:

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DS1

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:31 PM
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70. You weren't arty enough, sucker

:hide:

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:19 PM
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20. Uh, okay.

:wtf:

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:21 PM
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24. Like I said above, I apologize for the broad brush.

I meant to qualify it more to be talking about my own experience and not all. I do have quite a bit of experience on the matter though.

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flamingyouth

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:22 PM
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25. Okay.

Thanks. :hi:

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:44 PM
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50. hey we need to form an arty chicks league

and start marching right now, FY. There are some serious stereotypes to be busted, here... :hi:

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flamingyouth

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:47 PM
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54. I did go to art school for interior design.

But I also went to a university. I guess I consider myself more of a bookish geek type. I wonder how bookish geeks fit into this paradigm? ;)

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:54 PM
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61. that would be me, too

English Lit bluestocking.. before I got into my current profession, pals used to call me the "punk librarian." I used to sit in the bar with my copy of Sartre... never attracted a guy that way, though. ;)

:hi:

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Fenris

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:25 PM
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28. Wouldn't it be easier to say...

That some women are condescending and have an inferiority complex instead of making a generalization about a certain type?

I mean, there's less confusion that way, and you avoid making a generalization. ;)

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Nicholas D Wolfwood

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:33 PM
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35. It might be easier, but a lot more vague.

Why make the vague statement when you can just say what you really mean?

I've never been one to shy away from saying what's on my mind. I should've just qualified my statement more, and I continue to apologize for that.

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Ellen Forradalom

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:17 PM
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16. Well, it's part of the whole cooler-than-thou competition

that parmeates art schools and music scene. As a former art school chick and scenemaker, I am all too familiar with it and found it wearisome.

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:21 PM
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22. Did you wear all black and have a pale-ghost face

and carry around a large black portfolio case?

Sorry, I'm devolving into stereotypes here. Don't mind me.

;-)

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Ellen Forradalom

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:35 PM
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38. No, I was more the flamboyant-weirdo type

hard to peg, much too chirpy to be truly cool. So I didn't win.

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JVS

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:21 PM
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23. Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

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NashVegas

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:24 PM
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26. Artsy Chicks Are Only Snobby Towards Guys Who Dig Cheerleader Types

Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 04:25 PM by Crisco

And in addition to cheerleader types:

aerobics instructors

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Abelman

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:24 PM
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27. I've had no luck with either

So there.

I'm happy with the girls who are just "themselves," so to speak. I've found a lot of cheerleaders and artsy girls put on a show and pretend to be someone they aren't. I've met some who are quite real.

Being yourself. That's what's really cool.

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:28 PM
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29. Been there... done both scenes....

Girls are girls no matter what.....

All the rest of it is just background noise...

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:30 PM
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31. Sounds like an instant aphorism

Trademark that post B-)

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WCGreen

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:32 PM
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32. Thanks....

The further away from my teenage years I get....

I can see that all the drama was just nonsense....

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GreenPartyVoter

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:28 PM
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30. Hey! What about artsy cheerleaders? Where do we fit on your

Venn Diagram?

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:33 PM
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34. I imagine some kind of gothic cheerleading squad

Unsmiling, and droning "Go team."

BTW: Who is that in your avatar? Looks like an old yearbook photo.

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:35 PM
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37. That was indeed my mother's college yearbook photo. She was an

art major at the time. (But like me she also loved cheerleading. :D )

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brentspeak

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:42 PM
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46. Just checked out your site, GPV

lots of cool links.

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:46 PM
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53. Thanks. :^) I am in the process of moving sites right now but I should

get the new site up and running just as soon as the web designer teaches me how to work with a database set up.

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:51 PM
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59. like in ghost world

I had a lot of punk female friends who fit that image.

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Truebrit71sbruv

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:35 PM
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39. Okay... brain just went...

...<TILT> at that image, trying to figure out how one "cheerleads" art...

Still... it would be quite amusing watching some of the more pretentious pseuds eating their own beards in apoplexy as you give a shout to Matisse...

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:37 PM
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41. *lol* I didn't mean cheering in a gallery somewhere.. just that some

cheerleaders are artsy is all. But, that _would_ shake up a lot of people if you did throw a basket toss at an opening. *giggling at the thought*

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:41 PM
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44. I'd part with a not insubstantial amount of cash to see that...

...occur at some of the more, (how can I put this politely)... ummm... up themselves galleries in NYC....

:rofl:

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:45 PM
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52. Well, we could really go out there and get a BGLT team to come in

Yes, there are teams made up of BGLT people who are using their cheer talents to get people to notice their issue. Although really, I think the art opening isn't the place to send them.

I know, how about they show up at the next Justice Sunday rally instead? *g*

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:02 PM
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63. Oh I dunno...

... I think there are "synergies" with both the Art Opening and Justice Sunday rally scenarios...

~tries and fails not to reverse-snort my coffee as I chuckle at both images~

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:30 PM
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69. Eee... that cannot be good for the sinuses. *lol*

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:59 PM
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75. Well...

.... at least they're well and truly cleared now....

:rofl:

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tigereye

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:52 PM
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60. I would love to see that

similar to that great Monty Python "artists running a race" sketch.

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Truebrit71sbruv

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:05 PM
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64. It has a certain "cache" about it...

... doesn't it... very satisfying

:rofl:

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Wapsie B

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:32 PM
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33. I've never dated a cheerleader

but artsy chicks rock!

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:35 PM
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36. But they're a whole lot snottier and have a lot more tapioca between

the ears.

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Burma Jones

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:36 PM
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40. I've had experience with both

and I have never been treated badly by either "type" But then, I was an artsy Jock.....

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:38 PM
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42. Artsy jocks are good, especially if they are a bit nerdy too

;)

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Burma Jones

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:44 PM
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49. PhD in Computer Science too.....

But, mostly I'm Husband and Dad........

I figure that's a pretty good goal after you're 40...

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:47 PM
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55. I hope that's a pretty good goal for after 30 or I will worry that

my husband is yearning for more out of life. *g*

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Burma Jones

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:06 PM
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76. I started kinda late

35 when I got married, 38 when my eldest was born.

I skipped my first marriage and went right to the second......

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Sat Nov-19-05 06:28 PM
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80. Hey, whatever leads you to your bliss, right? :^)

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:42 PM
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45. Art school chicks aren't as snobby as art school guys. I should know.

And you don't even deserve the time of day from me!

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Adenoid_Hynkel

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:44 PM
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48. as an artsy guy, i've found that

artsy girls only have eyes for pretentious pseudo-intellectual older men. the kind that live in coffee houses and look for young twenty somethings, hopng that they will be revered by them

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Sat Nov-19-05 07:05 PM
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84. Hmmmm...

As an artsy guy myself, I've never had a problem meeting and dating artsy women my own age. Can I give you some unsolicited advice? Don't worry about it. They seem cool and smart and fun, but sooner or later, you'll have to pretend to like their artwork.

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Dangerously Amused

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Sat Nov-19-05 04:50 PM
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58. (Generalized) observation:

Artsy chicks are all trying to be different; their measure of success depends upon being unique but still cool.

Cheerleaders are all trying to be the same; their measure of success depends having identically cool friends and stuff.

It's harder to be artsy. But I think it's probably more interesting and more rewarding, too.

Be careful what you wish for. Just sayin' :-)

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Guy Fawkes

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:06 PM
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65. Where I am...

the cheerleader-types are mean to me. The art crowd, however, is much more excepting. It must change from place to place.

Note: if you make fun of their bad music (emo, screamo, whatever) many of the artsy-chicks get upset and tend to kick you in the nadgers. The men of the art crowd could care less, though.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:25 PM
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67. People feel more comfortable with people at their own brain level. (nt)

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Misunderestimator

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:36 PM
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71. ...

:thumbsup:

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:45 PM
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73. I live but to serve.

:hi:

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DS1

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:30 PM
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68. You are soooo fucking wrong

The goth types, while they might be hard to approach because of your own nerves, are extremely friendly. They don't have that pretention of being a "cheerleader", and they are quite accepting of different personalities.

Wait, I confused goth with artsy. You are sooooo fucking right! There's nothing worse than an artsy chick, who thinks their shit don't stink, and who will, if prompted, take a dump on your keyboard and call it art.

There's little worse than an artsy chick, diamonds in the rough excluded of course.

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Guy Fawkes

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Sat Nov-19-05 05:38 PM
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72. Whats up with goth girls?

How can they be both gothic and extremely nice and friendly? They confuse me!

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85. Nah, we just like the smart funny ones. n/t

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