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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:50 AM
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'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer' Secrets Revealed (The Animated Show)
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Santa's secrets
November 30, 2005

You know Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Vixen, but did you know that Rudolph was really a woman? The beloved stop-action animation special ''Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" has aired for 40 consecutive years (tonight's airing makes 41), but the deer with the schnoz brighter than a set of halogen headlights has been hiding a few secrets in his stable. Rick Goldschmidt, an illustrator who runs the website rankinbass.com and author of the book ''Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Making of the Rankin/Bass Holiday Classic," is here to set the record straight.

What is wrong with the doll on the Island of Misfit Toys?

The train has square wheels on its caboose, the water pistol squirts jelly, and the elephant is spotted, but the doll seems perfectly fine. According to Goldschmidt, there is nothing wrong with the gingham-loving doll who is living large on the Island of Misfit Toys. In the original 1964 airing of ''Rudolph," the misfit toys register much less screen time. But viewers wanted to see the mutant toys rescued from the island, so for 1965, new animation was added and the toys were given more screen time -- including the big rescue scene. Alas, the doll was now on screen for more than a few seconds, and her dirty secret of normalcy came to light.

If Santa is supposed to go down the chimney to deliver toys, why do the elves throw presents over the side of the sleigh with umbrellas?

Blame those pesky misfit toys again. When the freak toys guilted their way onto Santa's sleigh for the 1965 rebroadcast, the closing credits were reshot and the toys were shown being tossed off the side of the sleigh so everyone would know they were finally getting a good home. Goldschmidt has heard from many viewers concerned that the misfit toy bird (the one that can't fly) is tossed over the side of the sleigh without an umbrella. The idea is not that the toy bird plunges to its death, but supposedly it realizes that it can really fly. Don't roll your eyes; this is the enchanted world of Rankin/Bass.

The accents sound a little different, eh?

Canadian voice actors were used for ''Rudolph," because radio retained a stronger presence in Canada than the United States and, according to Goldschmidt, actors to the north were slightly more skilled at voice drama. And -- more important -- it was cheaper. Rudolph was voiced by actress Billie Mae Richards, who was famous for her voice characterizations of little boys. She is erroneously credited at the end of the show as ''Billy Richards."

True or false: Hermey the elf is a bigger flamer than the Heat Miser.

Hermey's sexual orientation is unclear in ''Rudolph," primarily because topics such as elf sexuality were not as widely discussed 40 years ago as they are today. Goldschmidt was noticeably quiet when asked the question, which would lead one to the conclusion that the elf/dentist (below, with Rudolph) is still in the closet, perhaps quietly residing in the Netherlands with Yukon Cornelius. It is clear, however, that Rankin/Bass stop-motion specials were focused on underdogs, and a gay elf dentist with a big blond coiffure who befriends a talking reindeer with a blinking bulb of a nose certainly qualifies as an underdog by any standard.

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2005/11/30/santas_secrets?mode=PF
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:14 AM
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1. .......
:spray:

This paragraph is funny enough to warrant multiple readings...

True or false: Hermey the elf is a bigger flamer than the Heat Miser.

Hermey's sexual orientation is unclear in ''Rudolph," primarily because topics such as elf sexuality were not as widely discussed 40 years ago as they are today. Goldschmidt was noticeably quiet when asked the question, which would lead one to the conclusion that the elf/dentist (below, with Rudolph) is still in the closet, perhaps quietly residing in the Netherlands with Yukon Cornelius. It is clear, however, that Rankin/Bass stop-motion specials were focused on underdogs, and a gay elf dentist with a big blond coiffure who befriends a talking reindeer with a blinking bulb of a nose certainly qualifies as an underdog by any standard.


:rofl:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:24 AM
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5. If "Rudolph" were made into a Movie (as is the rage today),
Who would you cast as Hermey?




















I'd have to go with Hypno-Toad, myself.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:27 AM
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6. Cary Elwes?
:shrug:
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:37 AM
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21. Matthew Sweet!
He always reminded me of Hermey...



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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:18 AM
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2. *Public Service Notice* for all the good lil' boys & girls ...
It's time to clean the chimney!
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:24 AM
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3. thanks for taking one of my guilty pleasures
and making me watch it this year and have to think about things. (for the first time, I may have to dvr it)
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:51 AM
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18. Last year it finally hit me that Santa is a bastard and so are all
the other reindeers in Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. Seriously, Santa didn't want anything to do with Rudolph because he was "different" and the others mocked him and drove him into exile for being different.

I'm not sure I'd call him racist, but definitely biased.

My mother said I'd had too rough a political season and I needed to step away from the politics for a while. Wonder what she meant :shrug:
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:55 AM
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19. i would agree that you must step back
don't diss santa and the reindeer. i really want the new jimmy buffet live at fenway box set and he is the only way i am going to get that.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:24 AM
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4. According to Goldschmidt there's nothing wrong with the ginghamloving doll
I always assumed she had some mental illness... She was awful
friendly with the polkadot elephant. (Who I personally thought
was perfectly normal.)

Just goes to show you can't judge an elephant by it's spots.

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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:28 AM
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7. Silly rabbit....
she has no nose.

And, given that this was made during the early Barbie years, one might also point out that she has no cleavage, either.

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:35 AM
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8. Aha! Excellent point!
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 09:38 AM by Prag
What's wrong with the plane? (Other than his face is on his bottom
instead of his front.)

(Seriously, though... The story of the misfit toys always struck
me as that for some non-specific reason they weren't wanted by the
children who they belonged to. Not being wanted is why the Flying
Lion King retrieved them and brought them to the Island. A better
name for the Island would have been... "The Island of Unappreciated
Toys.")

(Aside II: Suppose any iPods will show up there?)

(Aside III: A horrifying thought is, if a remake of RTRNR is ever
made and modernized... Will there be any Anne Coulter Action Figures
milling about?)
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:43 AM
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9. God, no!
The Ann Coulter dolls will go to the island of media fuck-ups. Feel free to compile your own list.

The plane has no wheels on its landing gear. Do I have to point it all out to you? You should have figured this out by the time you were 9 or 10.


The misfit toys were suffering from low self-esteem. They believed themselves unworthy, because they were different. But Rudolph, who also suffered from a bad self-image, knew that Santa could find a home for them, just as he found a place for Rudolph.


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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:50 AM
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11. I spent my formative years on "The Island of Dr. Moreau"
How am I supposed to know?!?!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:52 AM
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12. Well, I spent mine on Gilligan's Island...
but I didn't let that stop me from learning about the world, did it? :P
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:06 AM
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13. I distinctly see wheels on those landing gear.
If not, they're skids... A perfectly workable solution.

Q.E.D. ;)
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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:45 AM
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10. Ann Coulter Action Figures
"A horrifying thought is, if a remake of RTRNR is ever
made and modernized... Will there be any Anne Coulter Action Figures
milling about?"


No they are on the Island of Psycho Mad Dog Toys, with Chuckie and the Bride of Chuckie.

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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:17 AM
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14. And this psycho will join them.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:25 AM
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15. Wow - "batteries included."
I never would have suspected that. :shrug:
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:38 AM
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16. It's made in China! Imagine that. I called the Victory Store & spoke
w/ a very nice lady. I told her I was interested in the gw doll, but wanted to know where it was made. She sounded defeated when she told me.

I did not place an order.


:rofl:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:40 AM
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17. They make dolls in China?
How's about that.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:07 AM
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20. The doll has psychological problems
according to Arthur Rankin of Rankin/Bass. I guess she's just not perky enough.

This site has more info:

http://www.tvparty.com/xmasrudolph.html
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:45 AM
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22. Vindication! (see my post #4)
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 11:47 AM by Prag
Quote from cited site:

"Apparently, her problem was more psychological than physical. I have recently obtained THE original 10-28-63 draft of the script by Romeo Muller and the MISFIT GIRL DOLL does not appear in this first draft."

Ha!

Thanks for looking that up!

:)
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:21 PM
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23. Showing tonight on CBS at 8PM
If I miss that Rudolph (I have the tape though) and Charlie Brown Christmas my holiday just isn't the same. Never grow up completly.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:11 AM
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24. My roomie and I were just discussing the doll tonight
We were trying to figure out what her "defect" was. My roomie said perhaps she was a misfit because she had no nose. :shrug:
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