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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:13 AM
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Poll question: Is Thomas Kinkade a hack?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:14 AM
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1. You need another option.
"Hell yeah"
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:48 PM
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38. LMAO!
:rofl:

Had me worried for a second, Vash!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:56 PM
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39. Aww, c'mon now!
You should know me better than that!! :spank:
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:16 PM
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40. You're right ...
I was prepared to be SHOCKED! And my connection is slow today, so I had a few seconds of angst before I saw that there was nothing to worry about.:7

Sorry for my lack of faith in you. I promise not to let it happen again. :hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:34 PM
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47. It's okay hun
I'll forgive ya... this time. :hug: :evilgrin:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:35 PM
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48. Vash, please don't do that!
You scared me for a moment!

Khash.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:17 AM
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2. And his ego is in inverse proportion to his "talent"
:puke:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:19 AM
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3. Of course, that's why he's so fucking rich
The majority of people like shit. It's true. Deliver something people will have to think about and you'll die poor.

Which explains shit like Rothko, Pollock, Basquiat, and all the other shit producers. Shit is trendy. Shit is easy to sell. Buy shit bonds.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:37 AM
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11. Early Rothko or late Rothko?
Because I actually think that early Rothko is pretty thought-provoking.

Colour-field painting is less interesting.

I have to disagree with you on the Pollock as well. There is a lot going on in all of his paintings, both his earlier ones and his so-called "drip" paintings.

Basquiat I'm not familiar with, so I can't comment.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:39 AM
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13. I've seen enema paintings that are just as good as anything
by Pollock. Yes, paint shot out of peoples' asses.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:41 AM
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16. LOL! That might actually be quite interesting.
Is it performance art? As in, do they have people watch them do this? Like the famous film and photographs by Namuth of Pollock working?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:54 AM
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24. It's probably already been done.
Two rules for watching Performance Art:

1) Don't sit too close to the stage if you're worried about bodily fluids.

2) Don't sit too far from the door if you must flee in terror (or boredom).

Yes, I've seen some good Performance Art.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:31 PM
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31. YEs, my take on "performance" art as well...
Frustrated comedians who aren't funny.....
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:39 PM
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49. I only wish the prop guy had accidently made Yoko Ono's "Bag"
air tight.

"Bagism" :eyes:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:43 PM
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50. that would have been worth the price of admission...
And,,,,,

A Law and Order Episode....
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hobbywizard Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:23 PM
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29. Can't buy Rothko prints at Target, can ya?
It's fine if you don't personally like Pollock or Rothko, but they're not comparable to Kinkade in any manner whatsoever...unless I'm missing something you'd care to explain.

I reckon the only similarity is *you* don't like any of 'em!
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:46 PM
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32. I think you nailed it...
"Deliver something people will have to think about and you'll die poor."

My two fave pieces at the Art Institute in Chicago were a sculpture that I had to look at for about 10 minutes before I figured out what it *was*, and a piece of modern art that finally had some 'depth' to it... took a while, though.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:56 PM
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33. I like Rothko, Pollock and Basquiat
Very interesting painters.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:29 PM
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42. Good, I'm not the only one that digs Rothko :)
I think someone has to see one of the actual paintings to appreciate it. The prints don't reflect it accurately.

His paintings are frickin' HUGE. The layered colors have some pretty weird stuff going on and showing through each other that don't show up on your typical print.

As to the poster above saying you don't see prints of their work at Target . . . I'm pretty damn happy about that. There aren't a whole hell of a lot of pieces of "art" at Target I'd want on my walls.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:47 PM
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53. What? Rothko doesn't come in sofa-sized prints for $29.99?
Yes, you do have to see his work live, but that it true of most fine art work. It does have to be live and the right setting.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:33 PM
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45. Didn't Lars Ulrich sell one of the most expensive Basquiat paintings...
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:36 PM by WeRQ4U
...in that documentary they made? I didn't think it was that bad. It was big, that's for sure.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:20 AM
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4. Yay, a Thomas Kinkade thread!
These are my faves. Can someone please post that Kinkade parody site? That always makes me :rofl:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:30 AM
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7. When I saw your sig graphic, I just /knew/ it had to be mongo :)
I was wrong, obviously :hi:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:38 AM
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12. Rev. Cheese found it for me.
:evilgrin:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:41 AM
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15. heheh n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:21 AM
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5. I won't dignify this poll with a yes.
It's like saying, the sky is blue.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:28 AM
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6. How could you not like this?


Notice the burning leaf pile in the front yard? Weird, isn't it? I'm no fan of Kinkade's, but I don't hate his work as much as others do here. I have to say, though, that this one truly is :puke: worthy!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:54 AM
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19. This one isn't half bad
because at least it is straight on. The buildings he paints in two point perspective are totally skewed. Really, there is an Escher like irony in them that makes you almost wonder if he's pulling our collective legs.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:55 AM
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20. The house is on fire
see, he really is a freak but nobody has figured that out yet. Notice all the gasoline/oil slick on the front walk?
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:01 PM
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25. I love in this one how the swans
are able to just swim up to the front door.:D
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:05 PM
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27. Gah! Is that flash flooding by that house?
Now that is seriously ugly!

:rofl:
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LordshipLadyship Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:31 AM
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8. he's not called the painter of light for nothin'
I actually liked some of his work until it started cropping up everywhere in everything. I mean light as in light entertainment,btw
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:31 AM
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9. He sets a bad example of wastefulness....
Look at all those damned lights... do they really need every single on of them on?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:37 AM
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10. That's what I was just thinking
either that, or it's Amity House :-)
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:43 AM
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17. or Stepford.
;)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:44 AM
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18. Actually, he forgot to paint the back wall of the house, that's just
sunlight streaming through the windows --cough--
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:47 AM
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22. But, but, he's the Painter of Light!
He's got to run those electric bills up!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:30 PM
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43. More like the leaver of white.
Paint around the spots you want to look "light" and you've done it :)
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RumpusCat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:40 AM
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14. Kinkade 'paintings' do make tough puzzles!
My dad and I love to put together jigsaw puzzles but to get a hard one (1000+ pieces) you almost always have to get a stupid landscape. 7 times out of 10 it's a Kinkade painting, and we finally gave in and bought this horrible seascape one of his. Let me tell you, that shit was difficult! It took us almost a whole week to put together, and we were tearing our hair out! It was a lot of fun, even if the final product was :puke: worthy. :D
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:11 AM
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21. Cheesy sentimental crap
his work always makes me nauseous. Somebody in my shop has his cards all over her desk. Everytime I walk by it makes me wonder what planet she is from.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:48 AM
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23. Did I offend anyone?
Haven't read all the responses yet . . .
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:29 PM
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41. No, but keep trying it is early yet!
LOL
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:02 PM
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26. Kinkade makes one appreciate Norman Rockwell.
Norman never pretended to be a "great artist"--just a commercial illustrator. Many crappy reproductions of his works have appeared on assorted products. But he could paint.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:47 PM
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52. Great Point!!
:toast:
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:21 PM
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28. NOW I know the secret of Bush's EARLY popularity results!
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:28 PM
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30. I find his work TACKY
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:31 PM
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44. I find that black velvet painting of dogs playing poker make a less tacky
presentation than Kincades "art".
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:57 PM
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34. HELP ME!!! how should I vote?!?!
:shrug:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:10 PM
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35. You mean Kinkade of the ugly tract housing?
A housing development advertised as being based on Thomas Kinkade's paintings opened in 2001. By all reports, it was going to be an idyllic recreation of his painted villages, with the streets named after his daughters (whose initials he hides in every painting). Here is Salon's scathing review of what the development actually turned out to be:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/style/2002/03/18/kinkade_village/
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:11 PM
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36. OT: How was your trip home?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:46 PM
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37. Wonderful. Mrs. V. got sick, but she still had a good time.
Will post photos before the end of this weekend.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:34 PM
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46. Technically I think the boy has some talent, but
lame, sappy, sentimental shit is NOT art.

Here is the ultimate proof it ain't art - those freaking Glade scented candles! Give me a break!

So, yes, hack in the worst possible sense.

Khash.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:44 PM
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51. maudlin, sentimental crap...
someone should stick Kinkade in a room with the ghost of Ernest Hemingway or something.
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