What's wrong with me?

If I don't like a painting, or other piece of art... well, usually I'll just stop looking at it. I don't get too worked up about it, and I don't put a whole lot more time and effort into not liking it than that.

And sometimes... I'll even come back and look at it again in the future, to see if I like it with more life experience and a little different perspective. I've actually changed my mind about several artists or artworks that way.

I'm supposed to be an artist, yet I struggle with this secret affliction. I hang my head in shame. Oh god, what's wrong with me?!

That's an astute mindset. :hi:

:hi:


And I always appreciate finding your voice of reason in the threads. :)

if there is, then something is wrong with me too...

Then even if we are wrong, at least we can be wrong together.


But I don't think we're wrong.

Nah. Not us.

Seriously doubt it.


:)

why we may be the only right people in the whole world...

Gotta be.

I can't imagine anyone ever being right-er.

Yep, we're right. Definitely right.


:-)

:shrug:

I'm glad you think so. I was afraid I might have to go on a rant about artists whose creations I don't particularly care for.

And that seems like actual work.

If I was an art critic and got paid for it, then maybe. But I'm just me, so who cares what I think, you know? It's all so subjective anyway.

Where do I begin...

You'd back me up even if you thought I was wrong, as long as you thought I thought I was right, on the severely off-chance that I actually might be. Right, that is.

You inflate my ego shamelessly and without justification.

You know that's why I adore you.

For whatever reason. Some stuff, no matter how many times someone tells me I should like it, or how badly I feel I should like it, I just don't. It's unexplainable, but entirely normal I would imagine.

And the reverse is also true. No matter how much I think a work of art sucks, my opinion doesn't actually make it suck. Likewise, the claim that the work is fabulous, by those who appreciate it, is equally valid.

Thanks for the input.

Art is an emotional experience, not an aesthetic one. Ever met a person you just didn't like, and couldn't explain why? Same phenomenon basically.

Thank you!

:thumbsup: :D

You know, you and I really need to sit down over a few cold ones one of these days and solve all the world's problems. We'd get things straightened out, I tell ya.


:toast:

I used to dislike Pollack, but seeing one up close and having some more life experience has turned me around to him.

Uh... :blush:

I mean, you are so right about acquiring a taste for art that way. Or, as I stated in another recent post:

"You know, back when I was working on my undergraduate degree in fine art, if my classmates or I saw a work of art by a well known, successful artist, and we couldn't really appreciate it... we would pretty much presume that the problem was our lack of education rather than the well known, successful artist's lack of talent."

As an underclassman I remember having strong opinions about Pollack, thinking that his work was bad and that he was a bad artist. (Back then there was no distinction between the two in my mind.) When I found out that he was an alcoholic and oftentimes painted while intoxicated (PUI, ha ha), I thought what the hell, doesn't that only serve my argument?! But like you, it took seeing a Pollack in person, and educating myself a bit as to how and why he painted the way he did, to really open my eyes. Same with Rothko. Per "My Rothko Moment":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=4274098#4276215


There are still famous artists whose work I don't really appreciate. For example, I'm not a big Dali fan or Picasso fan, to tell you the truth. But I feel a lot more qualified to ask someone who does appreciate them to explain to me why they think the work is grand, than I do to go off on a public rant about how much Dali and Picasso suck.

Anyway, in the interests of full disclosure, I should probably note for the record that you are also a biased supporter, being my kept man and all. Oh wait, you haven't formally accepted the position yet, as I recall. Um... what's the hold up? Do you want me to beg? 'Cuz I will...

:7

I can start immediately. :7

Gonna run for a while, so I might be offline a while. :)

I think a lot of Walmart workers are umemployed.


You can start immediately? Excellent! Report for duty at oh eight hundred hours. Don't worry about packing, just get here. I'll send my staff for your stuff.

Where is here? Will there be a plane ticket waiting for me? Am I driving?

:D

And there should be a magic carpet pulling up to your door at about ten to.

:bounce:

Hot -n- sweaty is good, too.

:evilgrin:

Maybe I can run to the gym instead.

:evilgrin:

Don't strain anything you might need.


:7

Strengthens the heart. :7

That's my boy!

:9

I aim to please. :D

rather refreshing, and the fact that you can revisit the piece in the future and look at it with a different perspective is a plus. As you are an artist, I know you recognize the effort, blood, sweat, and tears that go in to creating a work of art. You not liking it does not take away from the fact that it was another's expression, and if you don't get worked up about it, I think you are recognizing this.

Just a thought...

One ought at least respect the effort that went into a work, even if one cannot appreciate the final outcome.

As for me, I readily acknowledge that I am too dull sometimes to recognize another's genius.

Thank you for the insight.

... for lack of a better term.

I've never "gotten" the visual arts much, I've seen paintings that I thought were beautiful, but never seem to feel the emotional/visceral thing that most people feel.

On the other hand, I hear music completely. And I periodically find myself really appreciating a song/composition that basically went right over my head before :)

Hey, if you can't change your mind maybe you don't have one :)

Because if I'm not too stubborn to learn from my mistakes, I'll be the smartest person in the world. Otherwise, I'll just be an average person with the most mistakes. :D


I wish I could hear music the way you hear it. It sounds almost like you can "visualise" it.


Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

pure evil, but then you posted one more time, and lost that distinction.

And I try so hard to stay pure.

:shrug:

That whole art/law dichotomy is such a nuisance!

:dilemma:

Time, education, experience and other life events can all affect you in ways that can change your perspective on many things. People are not static beings. There is no reason to think that your artwork should be exempt from this phenomena. In fact, if you are having trouble with a particular piece, putting it away for a while might be just the thing you need.

Have I ever told you how much I really appreciate your posts? No, not just the one here, or the ones that aren't necessarily to me but where I agree with you anyway, just in general.

I like your attitude and I like your style.

Cheers!


:toast:

It's good to hear that from people. I sometimes wonder if people just see me as some goofy nitwit, or if they realize there's something more to me. :-)