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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:19 AM
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What do you think about ouija boards?

Some people think they put you in touch with evil spirits.

I think the people using it, consciously or subconsciously, make it say whatever it says.

I had one as a teenager and consulted it endlessly. I don't think know if even then I believed what it said--it was just something to do.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:20 AM
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1. I don't really know!
I used to play with them as a teenager too. Creepy, but I am not sure about evil spirits. :shrug:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:23 AM
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2. Regardless
Of whether you think it's hokum or not, I would not reccomend screwing around with a ouija board. Even if it was made by Hasbro and you got it at the toy store.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:27 PM
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13. Why not? n/t
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:06 PM
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14. I just wouldn't do it
I won't go into it but it's like being disrespectful or vandalizing a cemetary. You're just asking for trouble.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:31 AM
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3. Involuntary & unconcious movements
My Mum is terrified by them after playing with one as a teenager & having the glass fling itself off the table (well that's how she remembers it).

If you're broadband equipt, look out for a show by the wonderful British magician/mentalist Derren Brown called "Seance", where he puts a group of students through various Victorian Spiritualist tricks, including the ouija boad.

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/M/mindcontrol/trick/seance.html

For a while it was the most complained about show in British TV history (getting over 700 complains; incredible really, when his "Russian Roulette" (where he got a volunteer to load a bullet into a revolver, then fired it several times against his head until he got to the bullet) which only got about 15. (The most complained about show now is "Jerry Springer: The Opera" - a record probably never likely to be beaten for quite some time.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:35 AM
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4. superstitious nonsense
Study up on the Ideomotor effect and the Forer effect. The Ideomotor effect subconsciously moves the puck (or whatever you call it) and the Forer effect convinces you that it's a ghostly spirit doing the moving.

I don't think it's necessarily harmful, as do fundies but neither do I believe that it allows someone to talk to the dead.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:18 PM
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5. But you touched on the important point, IMO. It taps the subconscious mind
something that can have great value, if done properly.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:20 PM
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6. I wouldnt mess with it..
thats just me.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:32 PM
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7. It makes a good wooden mat for the cat food
I sometimes cut out magazine clippings with an exacto knife on it, and when I was a kid, it was great to sit on and slide down a snow filled hill.:D
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:19 PM
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8. I've known people to be very frightened by them.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:20 PM
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9. It's a freaking board game...
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 01:21 PM by SteppingRazor
Not a means to contact some "netherworld" where your dead grandma is playing poker with Albert Einstein and Jimi Hendrix.

Christ.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:23 PM
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10. For God's sakes, you can buy them at freaking Wal-Mart...
for $10 or something like that.

It's a GAME. It's not a psychic telephone to contact your departed loved ones.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:02 PM
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24. ring ring...
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 03:03 PM by kick-ass-bob
"Hello, this is Adolph."

Adolph? No, no, I wanted Alfred.

"You have the wrong number. You said yes when you should have said no. Would you like to rise up and rule the world, and cleanse the world of non-perfect Germans?"



THAT is why you don't mess with a weejee board.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:24 PM
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11. I could never think of the Ouija board
as being evil. I think it's whatever the inputters put into it. My experiences with the board were endless, and I played for hours with it with friends. We actually had a lot of fun with it. Two of my friends--Beth, in high school, and Carol, for ten years after high school, both worked well with me on the board. We had several spirits who were friendly and entertaining, and never suffered ill effects of nearly twenty years of working with the boards.

If people get disturbing things happening to them while with the board, I think observers should look to the mental status of one of the inputters, and not to the intangible world.

Sort of like any "game"--you get out of it what you put into it.
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Err Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:25 PM
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12. I actually think it works...
if you're in place that's known to be haunted.
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:12 PM
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15. They always do exactly as I direct them.
:evilgrin:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:46 PM
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16. EVIL
It's bad news. I know it's sold with the games, but don't do it.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:49 PM
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17. I just don't like to tempt fate
Ever notice how in the movies, the die hard skeptic always gets scared/killed first?
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:52 PM
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18. quite funny n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:55 PM
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19. I don't really think about them at all.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:58 PM
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20. I thought it was a game.
:shrug:
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:00 PM
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21. Don't know what to
think. Better consult my ouija board ...
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:00 PM
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22. Don't care.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:02 PM
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23. Just as soon stay away from them
Because you never know.
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:02 PM
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25. I had a bad experience so I won't touch them now nt
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:09 PM
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26. I think they have made Parker Brothers a ton of money.
:hi:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:22 AM
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50. That's probably a pretty safe assumption. nt
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:24 PM
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27. Also, never read aloud from a demon-summoning book even as a joke.
Things go downhill fast.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:29 PM
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28. don't play Zathura, either.
:scared:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:30 PM
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30. ESPECIALLY if your name is Ash and the book is the Necronomicon
:P
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:21 PM
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33. KLAATU....BARATA...
*cough* necktie?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:30 PM
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29. I think that when you look at the huge number of designs made
throughout the last century or so, it's very interesting to see :)

http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/gal1.html
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:43 PM
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31. Here is a link to something...you decide....
I have already decided. My own expierinces with ouija boards have been boring at best when I was a child. In this link it could have been boring too but something else took place, something which has blossomed into a segment of society which practices a kind of "New Age" religion...although most practicioners do not see this as a religion at all. The Ouija board has been replaced with automatic writing on a computor keyboard. This is an excerpt from the first chapter of the first book detailing the meeting of the "Michael" spirit with "it's" future students.

http://www.caelumpress.com/mfm_excerpt.html
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:44 AM
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38. Thanks for the link. That was interesting. nt
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:17 PM
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42. That link was REALLY creepy.....
WEIRD. Really, really weird.

:scared:
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sadinred Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:51 PM
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32. a bunch of us in my dorm played religiously :) every night
with the Ouija. It was really freaky at times!

I agree that it generally comes from the people "playing", BUT the names that came up over and over again, night after night for us, were the same names that came up with all the Ouija players on the campus even years passed. We found this out after a few months of messing with it. It got too creepy for me after a while.

The campus was on the old estate of an unusual family, and there had been (really, not just the same old college tales as usual) some strange deaths in the family/estate history.

That was years ago. I wouldn't mess with it now though, even if it is just the player's minds. I think it depends on who's on the board.

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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:30 PM
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34. I had an extremely frightening experience with one once.....
As a teen we were using one while our parents were having a party.
This one kid got really weird about it talking about our primal selves.... Then a voice came out of him that DID NOT BELONG TO HIM....
That kid eventually grew up to be a (and I'm not shitting you) a psychic!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:32 PM
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35. I think someone is always pushing the thing
Things don't move by themselves.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:34 PM
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36. If you have a Ouija board with you, then maybe YOU could tell ME
what I think of them. B-)
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:31 PM
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47. LOL perfect answer
:thumbsup:


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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:47 PM
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49. I don't have one now. nt
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 02:48 PM by raccoon
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:50 PM
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37. Don't know really.....
I think usually someone is pushing the planchette either consciously or subconsciously.... but I''ve had some odd experiences.

My friend Kelle and I did it. Weird stuff. But we both took it very seriously. Some of what it said has come true....

Khash.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:58 AM
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39. I won't use one.
I bought one long ago, used it once, and threw it away. Whether it's picking up subconscious impulses and transmitting them through my fingers, I don't care. It's freaky. I can't even remember the "message," but it wasn't something I felt comfortable with at all.

There is a connection between this natural world and "what's out there" beyond our five senses. Psychokinesis is just fine with me, but the ouija board is weird.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:11 PM
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40. I have one, but nothing has ever happened when I tried it
A friend gave it to me when she decided she didn't want anything "evil" around her house anymore.

My cousins tell a good and funny Ouiji story, though. Their mom died unexpectedly when they were teenagers. They were at a party where the boy got really drunk. The kids picked up a Ouiji board, and the planchette started spelling out his name, and sentences like "why are you drunk, I thought I taught you better than that", etc. They asked the board who was speaking, and it spelled out "mom".

It was probably projection from the kid's psyche, but if anyone could haunt their kids from beyond the grave, it would be this particular aunt of mine.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:15 PM
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41. me and my friend Captain Howdy have lots of fun playing
I make the questions, and he does the answers!
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:24 PM
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43. Ah, but they fly around the room!
I remember as a kid when everyone "knew someone" or "knew someone who knew someone" who had an ouija board fly around the room, or caused them to commit suicide, or made them go insane. I never actually met any of these people, but it sure seemed like everyone knew someone who it had happened to!

It's a primitive, pointless game. It may be a few thousand years old, but it's still just primitive nonsense.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:27 PM
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44. I think they are cool. Even if they don't work.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:28 PM
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45. My daughter had a totally
believable encounter with a spirit at a friend's house when she was about 15. This guy knew things about both of their families and the history of the neighborhood. She was freaked and has never touched one since.

I've never played with them, myself.
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:29 PM
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46. i have no experience with them
but my grandmother banned them from the family because she claimed to have seen a dining room table slam a kid against a wall and crush him.

i don't beleive it, but she was terrified of them for some reason.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:36 PM
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48. a splendid display of focused, situational, shared if limited...
mass hysteria imo i prefer by far http://www.iching.org/about for my random wisdom B-) duly noted « Follow your inner wisdom »
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