Rachael Ray is going to overtake Martha Stewart soon !

As far as Queen of the Domestic Diva wars go. I just picked up Rachael's new magazine, which is great and I hear she's got a new mainstream network talk show starting up sometime next year. I'm a fan of her Food Network shows, which aren't threatening, and mostly fun!

OK, my prediction, and I'm closer to Martha's age than Rachael's, this new kid is AWESOME :) She lives in the Adirondacks, and recently married a veg*an. I like her alot. And she could be Jeff Corwin's twin sister :) What's not to like about that!

:bounce:

:popcorn:

for the record: i LOVE her too!

:D

She's a great kid...well, til she lies to the FBI :rofl:

The Lounge's pages are never the same without them.

Who and What hates her so much? I'm in my rabid-protective maternal mode now :)

and there are some that cannot stand her voice and mannerisms.

:P

and you, conversely, know me well!

:hi:

More! More! More! :applause:

I think she's a stoner. She does her shows with the munchies.

Then again, I'm a Yummo type of gal too <wink>

it can be a very creative state. Not always successfull, though.

Her prep and clean up crews must work harder than she does. And that's the part of cooking I hate.

To be fair, I'm a fan of cooking shows, but rather eat out, which is easier for this herbivore v. carnivore family :)

Rachael does alot of veggie side dishes w/EVOO and spices that I can make meals out of :) She even has a vegetarian cookbook out now!

Way too much prep time, there.

in her hamburger patties!!

matbe throw some goat chunks in there as well. DOn't want to leave out any animals.

Used to like here... then more of her real personality came out. She grates on me. Give me sane Giada DeLaurentiis with her calm voice and great recipes... I love Little Big Head.

And WHY does RR have to say EVOO THEN say what it stands for? Every time???

Which I am one. Who's Giada DeLaurentiiis ?

Sidebar: I suffered w/Martha Stewart perfection for YEARS, I still like her too, but not as much as Yummo Girl, she's not so perfect, I can identify :)

she is lovely. She is not manic. She doesn't have that gawdawful accent, bad hair color, or awful wardrobe. She does not call Extra Virgin Olive Oil "EVOO--That's Extra Virgin Olive Oil."

She has never declared something Yummo-oh! or made Stoup or Sammies. She has never pretended that making mac and cheese with hot dogs was worth a half hour show. Her family is not "apple people from way back" and she never tells us that her grandfather called red wine vinegar "everyday vinegar."

She makes simple American-Italian recipes that are--yes--sometimes too rich for us, but she doesn't hurt our ears in the process.

Rachael can go hang out with Semi-Homemade HO Sandra Lee (aka SLop) and the queen of deep frying and mayo, Paula Deen. And they can do their hanging out far away from my television screen.

her show is borrrrrrrrring. But that's just my opinion. Hey, and I like Paula Dean too :)

Move to Virginia and be my girlfriend.... we can make Giada's Nutella & Goat Cheese grilled sanwiches...

www.televisionwithoutpity.com They have a whole forum dedicated to Sandra Lee. :evilgrin:

she does Everyday Italian

I have difficulty with her, because in the same sentence she will pronounce italian items in the more casual "American" pronunciations, then she will turn around and exceedingly overpronunce the italian pronunciation of the same item. Plus, when she has people on her show, to help and learn, she gets really condescending with them.

Flame me if you wish, but she's a real lightweight and I hate the cinemagraphic quality of her show and the dubbed sounds. Way to theatrical, but from her family, what can be expected?

Sperm lottery winner ..... pure and simple.

And I don't give two hoots that she once worked for Wofgang Puck. Big frickin deal.

She's lucky she has a good crew to do the heavy lifting on her show.

to the rest of her body.

Rachael's $40 a day show really gets my ire up.

I understand her budget vacationing bit, but I watched her doing Santa Fe, a town I know well, and she just went to all of the wrong places - the major tourist trap joints. She could have done Santa Fe on less than $40/day by showing people the authentic foods that the locals really eat, not the sanitized places that are run by and cater to white touristas.

Bourdain, on the other hand, shows people the REAL local eateries, and REAL local food. He actively seeks out the most authentic, most traditional, most honest foods everywhere he goes.

Plus, Tony is a certified pirate whack job chef, an exact replica of most of the people I've spent time working with in kitchens.

Rachael :thumbsdown:
Tony :thumbsup:

I would love to spend a day with Tony. He can cook for me anytime!

I'm a pretty damn straight married man, but I do think he's pretty hot (in a French sort of way).

Hower, he can't taste all that good, what with the chain smoking and near constant alcohol consumption.

But hell, I can drink and smoke with the best, so bring it on!

Plus, anything tastes good slathered in enough butter. :P

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loud, where I can't afford to go. And he made fun of all the people trying to show him a good time. Sorry, I thought he was a snot.

And a snob, and a punk rock loving, chain smoking, red wine drinking ex-junkie. He says he's lucky to be alive.

The reason I like to watch him is that he reminds me of almost every chef I've worked with. His book Kitchen Confidential is the absolute horrible truth about what goes on in kitchens all over the world, and you really DON'T want to know about it at all.

:)

I live in DC and watched the show for that area and couldn't believe it.

By the time she was done snacking her way through DC and eating crap you could get anywhere in the USA she ended up at a DC specific chain restaurant for dinner and has a burger/sandwich.

Given that she could have gone to one of any number of high quality "cheap eats" restaurants for lunch and dinner, consumed entrees that weren't placed between two pieces of bread and still have money left over for coffee and ice cream somewhere else, it was a travesty of a show.

Tony Bourdain is real. Wondered how far I'd have to go down this thread before I saw him mentioned. Damned fine writer, too.

RR? Not so much. I really began to loathe her when I noticed how she encourages under- or un-tipping on that godawful "$40/day" foolishness.

Best Tony Bourdain line? "It was bad. I mean really awful. I wanted to pluck my eyeballs out, dip my head i a bucket of lye and run screaming off a cliff. I mean, it was baaaaad." THis after eating an iguana tamale.

After you prepare for 45 minutes they MIGHT take 30 to cook. I really don't see the attraction to her.

She tells you to do some of your prep on your shopping day(in my house it's Saturday). I have had no problem completing them in 30-35 minutes max.
Then again, my mom worked in kitchens for years and taught me shortcuts. I've also done my time in restaurant and cafeteria kitchens and have learned how to do something quickly yet efficiently. I know how to do 10 things at once in a kitchen while most of my friends, who have never done any kind of cooking in that manner, cannot figure out how to keep it together.
Like I said-I can do it but if it's not a style your used it I can see where it might take awhile.

Saw a buttload of different "meals in 30 minutes" cookbooks at Barnes and Noble recently...how many such books could a person possibly need - or have time - to read?? :D

:bounce:

But I loved her "Tuscany on $40/day", "Florence on $40/day" shows, and, well, basically just like her sparkling eyes and winning smile.

She is by far the most obnoxious person on TV, and that include Ann Coulter. :grr:

She annoys the livin' hell out of me.

Although Rachael Ray comes across as far more personable and far less haughty than Martha.

In case you haven't emerged from 30 Minute Yawns or Stuffing Yourself Like a Christmas Ham on $40 a Day in the past year, the dark forces are churning out orks left and right for the oncoming battle:

Rachael Ray Sux

I can't be arsed to contribute to that forum, but Rachael Ray does indeed Suck.

First of all - $40 a day...you wanna keep under that budget in ANY city in the world? It's easy: STOP EATING LIKE DAMN PIG! Jaysus on a popsicle stick - breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, drink, dinner....She eats twice as many meals on her touristic jaunts as I do on a normal day when I don't have museums to visit or rollercoasters to ride. Have a piece of fruit for breakfast, Rachael, and a sandwich or soup for lunch, and maybe you won't have to wear dark pants to cover that fat ass of yours!

And 30 minute meals are so named because you wouldn't wanna waste one extra minute on food so bland and dull. I have NEVER seen a single dish on that program that I'd want to replicate.

Now, Martha Stewart is unassailable. She is a misunderstood woman of understated charm and grace, and she knows well enough to have real chefs come on her program to make the dishes she couldn't make herself. The best crab cake recipe I ever saw was on her Food Network program.

I'm spent, but that felt good.

I agree with the posters who've given props to the Everyday Italian vixen. She could toss my gnocci any old time she wants!

A quickie (meal) after working all day w/o involving MSG.

Her recipes involve ingredients that we plebians can actually pronounce, often have on hand anyway or can find in our local markets.

Call me crazy but I'm sick of food network *chefs* who offer up recipes I have a knat's chance in heck of reproducing, given my middle class budget. At least Rachael Ray's offerings are affordable and don't require 2nd and 3rd language skills to even inquire about the ingredients, let alone afford them.

With her staff she's a gentile Leona Helmsley.

Martha Stewart sux.

Rachel Rules!

I'm not on her staff, so I wouldn't be able to comment.

The Martha Stewart that appeals to me is the TELEVISION personality - who I find to be cordial in the extreme.

If you are or were on her staff and have been abused, I am sorry. Perhaps you should find another position. If you aren't on her staff but keep tabs on her via the Enquirer or whereever, that's your prerogative. I'm just not interested in personal foibles. The woman does her job. And she does it a damned site better than Rachael does hers. IMO, of course.

:applause: <--you go, Martha.

I have seen some TV footage of Martha's nastiness towards her subordinates. Not quite the "Queen of Mean", but haughty and nasty nevertheless. Plus she's a greedy perjurer.

I just think Rachel's hot.

I could care less about the picayune points people make about cooking. Rachel's just fun to watch. Martha is bland like Wonder Bread.

Just my preferences, note.

B-)

I'm a bit defensive about Martha. I'm snarky and petulant, too, and we snarkers gotta stick together!

Snarkadelic!

:toast:

...until The New York Times did a story on her in the Dining Out section. Very telling: They talked about her posing in a kitchen sink but didn't include a single recipe. The resulting mail brought home the fact that she is adored and reviled.

Me, I think I'm closer to the revile camp, just out of annoyance and a general sense of exhaustion.

No. No. No. No.

EVOO's got to go.

a cream puff away from exploding!

I love the www.televisionwithoutpity.com forums on Rachel and Sandra Lee. Most people think the Food Network is putting pressure on Rachel to be more manic. She's calmer in the early shows. That being said I like and have cooked a lot of her recipes. Not the one with the hamburger and hotdogs all mixed together though. Bleck! :puke:

BAM!

I missed the hamburger/hot dog mix. I share your horror.

Nice looks, knows how to cook, pleasant voice, guys love her......I suppose she intimidates some women.

yup she`s my fantasy

Now there's someone who makes some glorious food. :)

still on Loungie First page.
Still love the Rach :hi:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/hosts_celebrity_chefs/article/0,1974,FOOD_9889_2294808,00.html
TV : Hosts / Celebrity Chefs : Sandra Lee : Food Network

Plus, I think she's a democrat. She worked for the White House in 78.

http://www.barefootcontessa.com/about.html

I had no idea what I was getting into. In 1978 I was working in the White House Office of Management and Budget and thinking I’ve got to do something more creative.

I love that woman, from head to toe. I wish she would adopt me.

I love all the Food Network chefs. I don't have cable, anymore, and I miss them like I'd miss long-lost family.

Hands, down, though, the hottest celebrity chef -- no matter how much of a revolting, petulant sellout he is -- is Rocco DiSpirito. He's got that pink cheek-blush thing going on. I melt! Followed second by Mario Batali, who is the hottest fat red headed guy in the world.

One mention on Oprah, and now she's a "star".