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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:39 PM
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Fuck being progressive -- I'm for FREEDOM
I'm just fucking sick of being told that I'm not progressive for defending pornography.

Advocating for censorship - or shilling for the religous right's crusade for censorship isn't progressive, it's totalitarian socialism.


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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:45 PM
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1. I feel exactly the same way..
... and also about the gun issue.

I guess if it weren't for the economics side of it, I'd be a card-carrying Libertarian. I'm sick of people telling other people what to do, and trying to control their lives.

Whether it comes from the right, the left or the center, everyone can just shove it - if it's none of your business, butt the fuck out.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:47 PM
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3. Yeah, I'm rather libertarian on social issues
but if they ever came to power I think they would sell the country to the highest bidder.

Thanks for the support.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:45 PM
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2. You're a progressive in my book
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 09:47 PM by Hardhead
But I don't know if that counts for much. Censorship is the first high-water mark of fascism.

No, I take that back. Government-paid propaganda is the first high-water mark. So I guess we're at the second high-water mark.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:49 PM
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4. Thanks
It's getting harder to see those high water marks since we are under the surface now.

I just don't get Democrats advocating for censorship, or playing into the religious right's hands on the issue.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:55 PM
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5. Its kinda like being on DU too long, too much
please dont take this the wrong way, we all know you are very involved in this one issue, and you are very passionate about it to be sure, admirable how you go to the mat full force.

but sometimes too much of anything can kill ya', Hell you can even overdose on water!

So what I'm saying is, give it a rest for awhile. The world still turns. Kick back, find another interest. I mean, there is always Bush-hatin' Thats alot fun!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:21 PM
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12. I do get fired up and go over the top on occasion
But I don't know what I'd do at this register all day if it weren't for DU.

Porn gets really boring after a while.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:00 PM
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6. Yes; this stripper is CONSTANTLY being told that.
Sigh.
I thought the feminist movement was supposed to allow me to enjoy ANY job I wanted. Boy; was I wrong. Just wish these people would do some REAL research.

I know you already know this Mongo.....you are always progressive in my book!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:19 PM
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10. ..
:hug: :yourock:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:01 PM
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7. I don't care about porn one way or the other...
but I do care about people telling me what I should or shouldn't think or enjoy. As I wrote on another post, some people are just looking for an excuse to be pissed about something.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:02 PM
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8. Dupe.
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 10:03 PM by lildreamer316
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:08 PM
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9. defending pornography = progressive check...
:thumbsup: i can see it on the next round of rove/rnc sanctioned flyer's under the windshields of church social participants all across the land. oh well, who needs a 'morally balanced' set of budget priorities for that matter. still...

if you want to run a porn shop then simply do so. i've never thought of bob guccione as a per se progressive either. there are some excellent restaurants in 'the castro' as well http://www.waiter.com/cgi-bin/SCMMOS/GetRestaurant.cgi?FUZIO850 is all i'm say'n...

hubby recommends the: mediterranean salmon : A seasoned fillet of salmon, grilled and served with a wine reduction, sun-dried tomatoes, kalamata olives, roasted pine-nuts and basil, accompanied by fresh seasonal vegetables and penne pasta with pesto.($11.95)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:20 PM
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11. while money exist, there is no such thing as freedom.
Just a silly thought...

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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:57 PM
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13. I think you have it backwards
without money (cash that can spent anonomously), there is no way to purchse without the sanction of the state.

Arms, drugs, all contraband are unobtainable without cash.

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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:19 PM
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14. Fuck 'em
if they want to be uptight sanctimonious pricks, let em. Just so they know I have zero respect for anyone who wants to censor or restrict our rights.
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