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alexwcovington Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:13 PM
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Poll question: Did you think England was our enemy in grade school?
Edited on Mon Nov-24-03 09:15 PM by alexwcovington
Elementary school history lessons tend to omit certain important facts about the current state of the world (and even the state of it back then). Especially around Thanksgiving, the annual occasion on which children are told the story of the Pilgrims, who escaped from the evil England for religious freedom...

Yeah, we know the real story now, but did you think otherwise back then?

on edit: final question ambiguous
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:20 PM
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1. A better example
In grade school, right after they exposed our tender young minds to the horrors of communism, they mentioned in passing its equally abhorrent cousin, socialism. No mention of the U.K. and Canada and the fact that people there lead normal lives. I was taught in grade school that socialism was something to look down on, to despise, without ever being told anything more substantive than that it was related to communism. This would have been about the time Nixon was in office.
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alexwcovington Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:21 PM
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2. That's another poll question to do.
But I will leave that for then.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:30 PM
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3. I was confused about time scale early on
I hadn't fully grasped the concept of time when I was in first grade. I am not sure when I finally got it. I just remember thinking of historical events as something that happened not too long before. For some reason, I also thought that the Egyptians were still building pyramids and that some Europeans were still fighting on horseback wearing armor.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:37 PM
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4. Not from school...
but my Irish grandparents certainly taught me that they were the old and eternal enemy.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:49 PM
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6. To a degree
The same here, my Granny's Irish ancestors left the Brit induced famine. In the first grade, it was the bicentennial, so I honestly thought that the British were evil incarnate.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:52 PM
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7. In my case, it was my father, LOL.
The enmity had carried over to his generation.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 09:43 PM
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5. before 4th grade, it was likely hand-traced turkeys and Pilgrims ...
Edited on Mon Nov-24-03 09:58 PM by cosmicdot
4th grade was likely concentrating on Jamestown and Williamsburg ... settling and establishing a colony

can't recall if we got into the taxation without representation thing

certainly by the 7th grade, we got into the Revolutionary War ...
so, I'd say England became an enemy for sure then ... but, not until they started taxing molasses and cotton and stuff ... after the 1700s

I don't think we thought much of England when the Pilgrim's had Thanksgiving ... I don't think we saw England as our enemy during that period ... the Age of Exploration and the countries that were doing the exploring was played up ... settlers were still arriving to the colonies ... we're just thankful to be alive from harsh winters and stuff
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