Vince Young pro?

1st round?

Top pick?

Hes big, athletic, just won the National Championship in the clutch..

i'd be shocked if reggie bush (assuming both come out) weren't the top pick. The difference between an incredible athlete playing running back (where super athletes excel in the nfl) and an incredible athlete playing quarterback (where super athletes such as michael vick don't always meet expectations in the nfl) is pretty significant ...

Ask Randall Cunnigham, Steve Mc Nair and Michael Vick, all of whom are/were constantly injured and keyed on regularly.

Hes 6'5"

1st round easy.

They get killed and dont hang around very long.
Now if he can learn to play from the pocket....

He was a mobile quarterback and he won two superbowls.

young, vick, etc. are considered "mobile" ... elway wasn't so much fast as he was quick and eerily aware of his surroundings (i say this as a huge broncos fan :)) Anyway, while elway could scramble for sure, he beat plenty of teams with his arm, too ...

Young would be great for 4-5 years before he ends up like Vick, Culpepper and McNair, who are constantly hurt.
I must admit, the game that Young played tonight was the best performance in a college bowl game that I have ever seen. He did it all, and most of it when they needed him. On the last two scoring drives he was unstoppable! If Texas lost that game, Young still deserved the MVP.

In my humble opinion Young is a better passer than Vick.

he's definitely improved his throwing, but there are better passers who haven't made it in the NFL. He'll definitely be a 1st round pick, though, imo. I don't think he'll be a HOF qb in the NFL, but i'd be fine if he proved me wrong ...

And NFL linebackers and schemes would've stuffed alot of his scrambles.

He will be a first rounder, but most definitely not #1 overall, even if he waits another year to come out.

He could play a few positions in the pro's.

and he throws a pretty ball which makes him even more attractive than michael vick coming out. his speed is comparable to vick but he is also really strong.

He's a hell of a runner, but he's got the brain to read defenses on the run. Vick doesn't give a shit about reading defenses, all he cares about is running. Young scanned the field, picked the throw and made it. I noticed him looking off safeties several times.

Leinart looked great, he has a glass jaw though. A hard pop sent him spiraling. But, he leveled out and then he got impatient. If I were an NFL scout, that would scare the daylights out of me.

Bush really didn't show too much power tonight, or at least, I didn't see it. I'll quote Woody Paige and Stuart Mandel here: "Bush could be too stressed out about what deals he wants to make to go pro to have a good game tonight." He did all right, but LT he ain't.

the challenge. I thought for sure UT was dead when USC went up 12 late. Had that serene smile during the last minute drive.

It must be awesome to be have a teammate like that leading your team, just a great feeling.

motion that Vince has? He's pretty accurate, but my worry about it is that you might not be able to really ZIP in some short or in the flat passes that have to get there really fast or risk being intercepted, with that kind of motion...

Would've got the Browns to the Super Bowl if it hadn't been for the Earnest Byner Fumble.

I sure as hell wouldn't.

Kosar came out early (double major in 3 years) because Cleveland had the first pick or was sure to pick him.

Fuckin' Byner :grr:

KOSAR IS GOD!!!!

don't give a damn if you'd draft him or not.

Bernie!!!

I loved when he came in the game and won the Super Bowl for the Cowboys back in '94. Finally Bernie got his due.

David Carr is already the QB in Houston, so I think it will be Reggie Bush.

Hopefully, Young or Matt Leinart will be avalable when my J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS pick at no. 4. We need a qb.

;) (hard luck, that ...)

But his throwing shoulder has taken a beating....

drafted him two years in a row in our fantasy football league. In 2003, the season-ending injury came the day after the draft. In 2004 he at least got a few weeks out of the guy. This year, he managed to avoid pennington in the draft.

It's a shame how hard his knocks have come, b/c I really thought Pennington could have been a very solid QB ...

Fairly close to home.

Texas' Young leaning toward dodging NFL draftBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


Vince Young hasn't studied the 2006 NFL draft nearly as much as he has the Southern California defense that he will face in the Rose Bowl on Wednesday evening, in a game that will determine the national champion.

But the University of Texas quarterback and some of the people advising him about his football future have perused the composition of the top 10 teams in the draft. And the makeup of the top 10, especially the franchises with the first five choices in April, might be enough to convince Young to return to the Longhorns for his senior season in 2006.

The Heisman Trophy runner-up, Young has indicated this week that he plans to return to school to complete his eligibility, and sources close to the Texas quarterback confirmed to ESPN.com that he is clearly leaning that way. One reason he would return to Austin, those sources said, is the sense that, despite his enormous potential, Young might not be selected among the top five picks in the NFL lottery.

Many of the teams in the top 10 of the draft order have invested heavily on quarterbacks in recent years, and they might not be ready yet to give up on those picks, or inclined to use another high choice on the position. Of the teams in the top five, just one, the New Orleans Saints, who own the second overall pick, have a dire need at quarterback.

The New York Jets, with the No. 4 pick, are uncertain about the physical status of starter Chad Pennington, a first-round pick in 2000 who has undergone two shoulder surgeries in less than a year. But the Jets have a considerable financial investment in Pennington and will likely sign a veteran free agent as a contingency plan.

Three weeks ago, ESPN.com reported that Young and his family, working within the NCAA guidelines, were determining the process by which the Longhorns standout would meet with potential agents and evaluate suitors seeking to represent him. Key players in the process were Houston attorney Major Adams and Young's former high school coach, Ray Seals. But the process has not moved forward very much in recent weeks, primarily because it appears Young will eschew the 2006 draft.

Young has not completely decided against going into the '06 draft, and could revisit the notion, sources said. Notable is that Texas coach Mack Brown has demonstrated a rare ability to keep underclass prospects from bolting early to the professional ranks. Underclass players have until Jan. 15 to petition NFL officials for inclusion in the 2006 draft.

No matter how Young performs in the Rose Bowl, he and the people counseling him feel he probably won't move ahead of Matt Leinart, his counterpart from Southern Cal in the game, in the eyes of NFL scouts. League talent evaluators privately harbor some doubts about Leinart, especially over his arm strength, but he is still viewed at this early stage of the draft analysis process as the top senior quarterback prospect.

For all his athleticism and play-making skills, there are scouts who acknowledge that Young has some areas of his game, like his release point, that need work and that he would benefit from another college season. There are, however, no guarantees Young will be the top quarterback prospect in the 2007 draft, either, given the presence of Notre Dame star Brady Quinn.

Young, 22, has completed 414 of 678 passes in his college career, for 5,773 yards, with 44 touchdown passes and 28 interceptions. He has also run for 2,927 yards and 34 scores on 438 carries.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2280007

His stock cant get any more higher than right now. He runs the risk of injury next year or a letdown. Not sure its a smart move to stay.

Young should go pro....he should cash in now and not risk injury.

When he took off his jersey there was a white Under Armour shirt there with the words "One Heartbeat" embroidered on it in burnt orange. Vince says the team plays with "one heartbeat." He believes that. He loves where he is and I think he'll come back to enjoy his last year there. Not to prove anything (except maybe to get the Heisman, he's got all the rest), but to repeat - much like Leinart did this year by bringing USC back to the championship game. There's another precedent: Ricky Williams came back for his last year. He's also made a point of telling the UT players to stay in school because playing in the pros is all business and not the fun, family atmosphere they love at UT. (That was before he lost it and took off. :shrug: I guess it REALLY wasn't fun for him then.)

That's my take on it, anyway. I think Vince will be back. There's a lot of wishful thinking in there, too, I admit it!

Good Lord, what a game tonight!

which isn't going to happen in this draft class. He's just not going to jump past Leinhart.

And there is the matter of a Heisman...

Brady Quinn has that locked up, short of a horrific injury. Quinn's mechanics are better, makes better decisions, AND plays in a pro-style offense already.

Any other questions?