Anyone See The Second X-Men Movie?

I got it last night on DVD. It was pretty good, I thought better than the first one. But I wish they would have done more with the Iceman kid and the Pyro kid. They seemed like pretty cool characters.

And why did Jean Grey have to save them? Couldn't the Iceman kid have frozen the water coming from the dam? And if the ship wasn't able to fly without Jean's help, then how did it fly away after she was washed away in the flood?

And why was Rogue so freaked out by flying the ship? I'm sure there was a scene that was cut out of the film that explains that.

So what did you guys think of the movie? I think, very quietly, X-Men is turning into a pretty good little franchise.

I think it was the 2nd best movie out this years just behind Kill Bill.

That iceman dude could have frozen part of the lake...

Good flick, otherwise and better than the first.

Like they were digging for an excuse to kill off one of them (until the next movie)

X-men in the 1980's went through a major (40+ issues!) story line, where Jean Gray (using the name 'Marvel Girl') sacrificed herself to save the team (when another member would have done a better job), and in the progress became even more powerful when reborn as Pheonix...
The story goes on from there, and I will not give it away. But following the custom of Comic Book movies, they seem to be following that story arc (loosely).
Note that in the scenes where Jean Gray 'cuts loose' (uses full power), she has a 'flame effect' in the eyes and body; in the comics that was part of her powers as Pheonix. Foreshadowing; those of us fanatics see what's coming, while the regular people can try and guess (or ask a fanatic)

I turned to my partner and started boucing in my seat whispering to him that "the next one is going to be about the Phoenix." He, not being a comic geek had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.

I liked it better than the first one...a little more character development/back story, and Brian Cox was a great bad guy.

I also think John Stamos is one LUCKY mofo lol...

Why wouldn't he go after Mistique? She's hot as hell and can change into any form she wants?

Definate plot hole there. :D

Look, if I were unattached, I'd say the same thing. But Wolvie was attached (unfulfilled) with JG.

of KILLING. That is the ultimate super-hero movie.

Just wait for the next one...

Who was the kid who had the metal on his body. The big kid at the school who led the kids out the tunnel?

Was that Iron Man or someone...because I remember that character, but not their name.

Super strong, pretty much invulnerable. You can see where the script changed to reduce his part.

A Russian at the school. He can transform his skin into metal, and he gains superhuman strength at the same time. Another actor played him in the first movie - although you wouldn't know it was supposed to be Colossus unless you're a true comic book nut. In a shot of the grounds of the school, you see someone sitting down painting on a big easel - that was his hobby in the comics and a sly reference to him in the movie.

As for Jean Grey sacrificing herself, it is to set up Phoenix. Did none of you comic book fans notice the blurry phoenix-bird shape in the otherwise calm water that flooded the valley towards the end of the film?

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But I was looking for it.

and way less "experienced" when it comes to fighting.
More "MTV Real World" interactions, less kicking ass and taking names, squad-combat style.
It looks like they've set up the premise of the movie world more like that.
With only other mutants as "the bad guys", whereas the early XMen were facing all sorts of nasties, not just other mutants.
Plus the focused on the fact that it was a school first, whereas in the early comics it was more of like boot camp.
Not having Hank McCoy as The Beast really moved the setting away from that... he was the Reed Richards of the X-Men... the super genius who could create most all of the high tech gadgetry they used to train with.

The Iceman, Pyro characters are doing the "white hat/black hat" theme... Pyro eventually joined the "bad guys", right?
And they really showed pretty much all they were capable of as kids.
As far as Iceman freezing the lake, I'm guessing they wanted to show that even superpowerful mutants couldn't overcome nature.

I'd have to watch it again, but I think Jean just needed to get the ship into the air and I have no idea why Rogue freaked out.
And she had to die so they could begin the Phoenix storyline.
Next to the Age of Apocolypse multi-book arc, probably *the* single most popular story arc in the Marvel universe, certainly within the X-men series.(with, I'm sorry, MHO, a bit of a "who shot JR ending")
And the only reason Wolverine has been the focus of so much screen time is that he became the focus of the franchise back in the early 90's and is easily as popular as the group.

I thought this movie was stronger than the first, overall, but as a fanboy who hasn't followed the series for the past 15 years, its been a chore to get up to speed.

I'm still waiting for the Colossus/Nightcrawler "fastball special" scene.
Woohoo.
And I'd love to see Kitty Pryde, the girl who walked thru walls, with a slightly bigger role.

I had fun just trying to figure out which kids were who.
Like the little girl who was the air raid siren... obviously related to Banshee... I'm guessing she is his daughter Syren.
I'll buy the DVD eventually just to look for stuff like that.

Mojo