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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:55 PM
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There is a Civil War in this country and its going to get worse
I am seeing the seething and rage get worse daily..Ive been called an asshole, a jerk, been told to move to Iraq, been tailgaited, my husband has been harassed, beeped at, given the finger, had our car keyed, had someone dent it, and it seems to be happening more each day..all because I am anti war...
so now, do I attack these peoples vehicles? no...do I yell at them? no...I respect their First Amendment rights.
Nonetheless, I am now officially cut off from my brothers, sister, and their wives and husbands because I told them the truth.
My mother said, you know, this is like the Civil War...the country is at each others throats and this coming year it will get worse.
I wont back down.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:00 PM
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1. I see it getting alot worse
especially if bush* is installed again in '04.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:01 PM
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2. have you been targeted due to a bumpersticker or
other printed means to communicate your political beliefs, or have you had the unpleasant experience of witnessing anger, lack of civility and irrationality (what passes these days for actual "thought" amongst many amurricuns) as a result of actual conversation?

I thought this was supposed to be "class warfare" (and still seems so on capital hill) but a bunch of poor people have gotten confused into being angry over the wrong things... Maybe that's the plan - divide and conquer.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:01 PM
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3. That takes such courage...and I totally respect your conviction...
If we ever back down, we'll lose. Thank God you have your husband and DU to support you. I'm sorry your family doesn't talk to you because of your beliefs. When people start to put their politics before their families, you know they have to be off their nut. When are people going to stop and think about what they are doing to each other? I'm sure whenever whoever started this world, they never envisioned a place where we'd kill each other physically, spiritually, and emotionally over dirt, beliefs, and petty shit.
Bless you, Mari. :hug:
Duckie
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:01 PM
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4. Actually, I think Newt Gingrich delcared his "bloodless civil war"
over 10 years ago, at the time of his Contract with American.

Rush Limbaugh, in his first week back, spoke of "crushing" Democratic opposition, using language not unlike that used to discuss the Iraqi resistance.

It is going to get uglier before it gets better.

The biggest problem is that we have a goodly sized chunk of the population which has an entire world view formed by AM Talk Radio and the Fox New Nework.

How does one go about reconstruction or a "deNazification" program with these people that is consistent with the Constitution?
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:10 PM
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8. prosecute them relentlessly for all illegal doings
Edited on Mon Dec-01-03 01:10 PM by theivoryqueen
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:05 PM
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5. I have to say...
I've had antiwar bumperstickers on my car ever since 9/11 -- also, when everybody put up flags, we put up a huge peace sign banner on our house...

And to my surprise, not a single bad experience. Every now and then someone will yell "ATTACK IRAQ!" from their car (responding to my "ATTACK IRAQ? NO!" bumpersticker), but that's far from harassment, to the contrary: that's perfectly within the realm of free speach.

But then again, I live right outside of NYC.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:08 PM
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6. I agree, Mari, and, no, you should not back down
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 03:20 PM
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13. I think it's gonna get worse...lots worse
I am hearing normally sane, rational people (and a few not-so sane, which is scarier) talk about revolution. Most prominently, a certain Repub has been talking about giving up on art and *leading* the revolution.

I'm scared.

Tucker
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:08 PM
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7. This coming conflict will be known as the American Uncivil War
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:21 PM
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9. "I am a uniter"
and other bed time stories.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:30 PM
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10. Be careful!
I always remember that people were attacked and even murdered during the first Gulf war for being against the war.
Guess I'm pointing out the obvious, but it's always thugs on the right who resort to violence first, attacking people in order to intimidate or kill them. I agree that it's going to get worse. Be vigilant. There's no question that you're in an area where some yokel could decide to attack you. It might be a good idea to get some weapons.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:34 PM
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12. my story with such a repug
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:34 PM
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11. my advice is to arm yourself.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 03:43 PM
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14. What does your bumper sticker say?
I am afraid to put one on my car- even though I am 6'4" and 250 pounds of pure muscle (okay, some of it is fat but I used to be tough!).
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:04 PM
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15. "I won't back down"...
Well I won't back down, no I won't back down
You could stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down

Gonna stand my ground, won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from draggin' me down
Gonna stand my ground and I won't back down

Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I won't back down

Well I know what's right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
But I'll stand my ground and I won't back down

Hey baby there ain't no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I won't back down
No, I won't back down

-- Tom Petty


Great song!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:08 PM
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16. You're not alone
And you're right. It is a war and it is escalating.

<:rebel yell:>
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