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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:52 AM
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I am Hooked On Prescription Drugs and I need Help
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 01:19 AM by corarose
I ordered Diet Pills back at the beginning of Oct and I have been taking them since then because I don't want to get fat again.

I have been mixing them with my Pain Killers and I haven't had a proper nights sleep in 2 months.

I am passing my classes with A's but I haven't eaten anything hardly since I started taking these Diet Pills from the Pharmacy Website.

I need help getting off of them and I don't think that they should be selling them up on the internet.

The good thing is I only have 3 pills left and I sent the money that I had from doing mystery shopping to a friend that I owe money to.

I was addicted to Diet Pills when I use to work with Rock Bands and I kicked that habit a long time ago.

I am so hungry but I can only hold 6 ounces of food so I have to take diet pills to make my mind think that I am not hungry.

Carni Wilson doesn't tell anyone about being hungry all of the time does she?

I sleep 2 hours each night and I have only eaten about 300 calories a day since I started taking these pills. I never would have started them again If I didn't click on a Gastric Bypass website and I got a pop up add for a free trial of Diet Pills If you order one months worth of pills you get two months for the price of one.

I am sick from not eating or sleeping and I have a major test in the morning and evening.

These pills should be banned from the Interent and I am with the Republicans when they say to get rid of the pharmacy's over the Internet because I wouldn't have been able to obtain diet pills at my weight If I would have walked into a Diet Doctors Office.
I put down that I was on pain killers and that I had major surgery and I put my real weight down and they still sent them.

The good thing is I only have three left.

I HAVE THE URGE TO ORDER THEM AGAIN AND MY DAD IS GOING TO GIVE ME $50.00 BUCKS FOR CHRISTMAS. GOD HELP ME!

I haven't been myself for 2 months because I have been unable to sleep or eat.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:57 AM
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1. Please go see a medical professional about detox/rehab
I'm serious
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:02 AM
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3. I tend to agree....with reservations.
Just tell your doctor you wish advice on weening yourself off these medications. You should try that before you start looking at rehab or detox.

I got hooked on Ativan a few years ago and landed in the ER trying to quit the things cold turkey. My doctor taught me how to gradually taper off the dosage until I could quit without experiencing withdrawal.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:00 AM
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2. See your doctor ASAP...
He/she will guide you to the help you need...
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:02 AM
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4. Do you have health insurance?
I hope you can see a doctor immediately, because you should.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:42 AM
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14. I have been on disability for 10 years
I have medicare insurance and I need to go back to my group that meets once a month to talk about issues of the sugery.

The Right Wing Doctor who came in and told everyone to vote for her Republican Brother that was running in MI made me sick of going to my group meetings. I got up and told the truth about the sugery on several occasions when new people came to the group that hadn't had the surgery yet. I was honest and she told me to shut up on more then one occasion so I didn't go back.

I need help from my group but they will not be meeting in December.

They know the issues of bypass surgery and they are all hungry and they know what happens if you eat.

You can rupture your stomach.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:04 AM
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5. Please make a doctors appt. right away.
It's a chemical dependency. You need to see a doctor for treatment as SOON AS POSSIBLE. Those diet pills can kill you in high enough doses.

A lot of chemicals are addictive. My cousin had an addiction to Equal sugar (NutraSweet chemicals). We had to wean her off the stuff, because she was getting real sick, and we were afraid she'd get cancer. She used to consume 10-12 packs of the shit per day.

I was addicted to nasal spray in early high school, around the time I was really depressed. I'm being serious, I'm not kidding. I was getting colds that winter, started using it 24-7 during the colds, and I got hooked. I would start using it every morning to clear out my nose when I woke up. My father had the same problem back in the 80's.

So I consulted a doctor, and he put me through a 2-week treatment to get rid of the chemical in my body. The only spray I can use nowadays is Zicam, which doesn't have the addictive chemical in it.

Doctors can help you well with chemical dependencies. It's almost 2004. Medical science has achieved great things. PLEASE, SEE A DOCTOR.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:13 AM
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6. It's the pop-up ads fault?
Get help, and I mean for more than just your problem with diet pills. Sounds to me like that's just a symptom of something much deeper.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:17 AM
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7. Are these prescription diet pills, or an OTC herbal pill?
n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:19 AM
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8. wow
That's a quick turnaround!

Just a few days ago you were on probation at school because your grades had dipped. Now you've got straight A's. Well, at least the school didn't throw you out because your financial aid got screwed up, as you feared last week.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:34 AM
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10. I get A's in Cooking and Baking
My bad grades came from the general ed classes. There was no turnaround on Culinary or Baking because I can cook and bake in my sleep.
Financail Aid was screwed up and it has been straightened up.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:32 AM
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9. Ok, you have admitted that you have a problem. Sort of.
The next step is to realize that YOU are the one who made the choice to take these pills. And now you need help, because it no longer feels like a choice. It's an addiction.

I urge you to immediately contact a doctor, or clinic and get help right away.

It sounds as if there are money pressures. It costs nothing to go to a 12-step program. Many people have gotten the help they need via this option. It helped me.

But, first, Corarose, it is time to admit that the popup ad has nothing to do with this. You are an adult. No one forced you to purchase those pills.

What are they, anyway? I'm confused. At one point you say it's prescription drugs, and then you say it's something you bought on the internet, seemingly without a prescription.

It sounds like you have tremendous stress in your life. I hope you get the help you need. But you are the only one who can make that choice.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:36 AM
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11. Pop Up Ad wasn't the fault it was the temptation
It's like putting a burger and fries in front of a dieter and letting them smell the meal while they are trying to stay away from it.

Why the hell are they putting diet pill adverts on the gastric bypass website for patients that have had the surgery anyways.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:38 AM
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12. Are they prescription or over the counter?
What, exactly, are you taking?
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:43 AM
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15. They are Prescription Diet Pills
They are Phenamentrazine and they send you a large supply at once.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:13 AM
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23. Phentermine Warnings
Tolerance to the anorectic effect usually develops within a few weeks. When this occurs, the recommended dose should not be exceeded in an attempt to increase the effect; rather, the drug should be discontinued.

Phentermine hydrochloride may impair the ability of the patient to engage in potentially hazardous activities such as operating machinery or driving a motor vehicle; the patient should therefore be cautioned accordingly.

Drug Dependence: Phentermine hydrochloride is related chemically and pharmacologically to the amphetamines. Amphetamines and related stimulant drugs have been extensively abused, and the possibility of abuse of phentermine hydrochloride should be kept in mind when evaluating the desirability of including a drug as proof of a weight reduction program. Abuse of amphetamines and related drugs may be associated with intense psychological dependence and severe social dysfunction. There are reports of patients who have increased the dosage to many times that recommended. Abrupt cessation following prolonged high dosage administration results in extreme fatigue and mental depression; changes are also noted on the sleep EEG. Manifestations of chronic intoxication with anorectic drugs include severe dermatoses, marked insomnia, irritability, hyperactivity, and personality changes. The most severe manifestation of chronic intoxications is psychosis, often clinically indistinguishable from schizophrenia.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:25 AM
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27. I am flushing the last three down the toilet
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 02:30 AM by corarose
I put a lock on my purse so that my Sister or Dad wouldn't find them.

Hey that's me!
patients who have increased the dosage to many times that recommended. Abrupt cessation following prolonged high dosage administration results in extreme fatigue and mental depression; changes are also noted on the sleep EEG. Manifestations of chronic intoxication with anorectic drugs include severe dermatoses, marked insomnia, irritability, hyperactivity, and personality changes.

I have taken a two months supply in less then 6 weeks and I am going to go Cold Turkey. The damn things allmost got lost in the mail and I wished the they had gotten lost.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:39 AM
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13. Stick to the point. Do you really want help or not? nt
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:44 AM
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16. I never wanted to start taking Diet Pills again in my life
I was afraid of eating too much and gaining my weight back or rupturing my stomach from eating again.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:50 AM
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17. that's the crux of addictive behavior.
You don't want to, but you do it any way.

To overcome this, you will probably need medical help, couseling, and likely the fellowship of some sort of 12-step or similar program.

Why don't you try going to an AA or NA meeting? If you don't like it, you can leave. If it helps you, you can stay, and perhaps find some peace with yourself.

Addictive behavior of any kind usually indicates that there are other issues, larger than not wanting to get fat.

I really hope you get the help you need. But you have to want it, and you have to take the first step.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:56 AM
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20. You want to eat but you can't eat because your stomach isn't big enough
Your mind thinks that you are constantly hungry. If you ask people that have had this surgery that have been out for over 1 1/2 years they will tell you that your allways hungry and there is no way of breaking the addiction to food.

You stomach is stapled but your mind remains the same.

All Fat people have a reason for getting Fat but some of us weren't meant to be skinny. It's society that won't accept fat people and it makes me sick that they won't accept them so we go to drastic measures to fit in.

I missed my old life and I thought that by getting my Stomach Stapled I could go back to my old life but you can't.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:52 AM
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18. Ok, how long have you had your eating disorder?
Since childhood? And, does it have anything to do with your choice to study to be a chef?

That's rather like a recovering alcoholic going to bartending school....
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:08 AM
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22. Some people are meant to be FAT
Why don't you take a look at the Culinary Colleges and find out the percentage of fat verses skinny people.

Half of the people attending culinary college are well over 200 pounds.

5% Have had gastric bypass surgery while some of them are thinking about have it done.

NO IT'S NOT LIKE A BARTENDER BEING AN ALCOHOLIC.

YOU HAVE TO EAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRINK.
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Sting Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:54 AM
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19. Not only are diet pills the worst thing you can do to your body...
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 01:59 AM by Sting
but they're also unregulated by the FDA. They can contain ephedra, which can raise your heartbeat exponentially. They can also contain "other stuff" that can cause serious heart problems. They are also habit-forming, as in your case. If I were you, I'd get help IMMEDIATELY!

You're also eating only 300 calories/day. That is very unhealthy. You should be getting between 1,200-1,500 calories/day to be healthy. You are well below that. Not only are the diet pills causing you problems, but your lack of calorie intake can cause major problems later in life and ultimately kill you.

With the cold and flu season coming in full force, your body will need a lot of calories and vitamins/minerals to make new cells to fight off those bacteria/viruses.

Your lack of sleep can also cause problems when/if you're driving. You could fall asleep at the wheel or whatnot and veer off the road or hit someone.

This may be grim news, but it's fact. I pray that you get well and get help immediately.

On edit: did you ever get major stomach surgery?
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:00 AM
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21. Thanks
As soon as I am finished with these 3 pills I will be done and I will have to refrain from going to the bypass website and block the emails that the pharmacy sends me for money off of buy one get one free on pills.

Not getting any sleep is the worse part. I can't eat over 700 calories per day because of the stomach stapeling. You can only hold so much or you end up throwing the food back up because it comes back up to the top of your throat.
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Sting Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:14 AM
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24. Oh.......
so you did get surgery. That explains why you cannot have more than x number of calories/day.

You should talk to your doctor and ask him/her about getting treatment for your addiction. This is not something that you can just block from your emails.

I don't want to see anything bad happen to you. I've known people who have struggled with addiction to pills. I hope you get better and your in my thoughts/prayers.
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Buckminster Fush Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:19 AM
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25. Dr. and 12 Steps...
Please see a Dr. and get yourself to an AA meeting, personally I would forget the NA even though they deal with drugs. You will find much more long term sobriety at one AA meeting than at 5 NA put together. 11 years ago this upcoming Feb. I put down the pipe for good and I would never have done it were it not for the people in AA showing me there was a alternative to my distructive mind.

All the best to you.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:22 AM
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26. I just started taking them again in October
I think that I can stop them on my own because I did it before but the hunger will be there even if you attend Culinary College or not.

Culinary College helps you with the cooking part because you don't want to eat so much after you cook.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:28 AM
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28. My MAIN GOAL at Culinary College was to develop a diet for
Gastric Bypass patients so that they can get the calories and protein that they need in the small amount of food that they are allowed to eat.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:55 AM
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29. I hope that..
you take the advice of others and go see a doctor.

I just wanted to add that if it wasn't available online, there would be local clinics and ads in magazines and other sources. I'm happy to be able to bypass the medical bureaucracy for some prescriptions and hope that access doesn't get taken away.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:03 AM
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30. Diet Clinics will not give you diet pills unless you are
At least 30 pounds overweight or they could get shut down.

I disagree with you on having access to Diet Pills for anyone that wants them. Kids can order them because they are not checking they are just shipping them out because they are making big bucks off of a cheap prescription.

I don't want them shut down I think that they need to be a little more involved in caring about the person on the other end. Of course the whole profile can be made up but they should have to check things out like read the questions that the person answers.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:40 AM
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31. I don't understand why you are so hungry.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 05:40 AM by RebelOne
My daughter had the gastric bypass done and she sometimes forgets to eat. But you do have a problem as far as the pills go. I was hooked for years on amphethamines when they were easy to get. But they really messed me up. I went into deep depression and ended up going to a shrink. I had to stop when I could not get them anymore. My sister was also buying them from the Internet. And she died in January this year from kidney cancer. I don't know if the pills had anything to do with it, but I think they contributed.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:23 AM
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32. Please take care

I hope you are taking vitamin pills and getting enough amino acids in your diet. And maybe phoning around or reading up on what amphetamine withdrawal and rehab is typically like.

I like the idea of first reducing dosage deliberately rather than going cold turkey. It'll give you time to arrange things. It sounds as if you don't think you'll be able to hang on until the end of the semester but perhaps it is possible at a bearable price- only you know, of course.

But if you are going to go cold turkey because you must, you should go to your nearby ER ASAP and tell them and stay there or nearby, they should have drugs on hand that can get you through very bad spots. Keep hydrated and eat some salt best as you can, that does a lot to minimize the worst physical symptoms. Hopefully the minimal arrangements for missing the next few days of your normal routine are made.

Best of luck, corarose....
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