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Diego360 Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:11 PM
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Disappointed at Clark meetup
Note: I use a wheelchair to get around...

So I go to my first Clark meetup at this local pub/restaurant last night. Not my kinda place (I figure a cheap coffee shop or free library conference room might be better for us working class folks) but what the hell.

First bad sign- The one and only handicapped parking stall is taken. No biggie, just have to park my truck in the mall lot and roll through an intersection-- yikes, no sidewalk so I have to use the road itself. Glad there was no traffic.

Inside the place (busy and kinda noisy) and I'm told the Clark people are on the second floor loft. Elevator? Nope. So the waitress goes up and tells the Clark guy to come down and meet me, which he does. Nice guy, is apalled that there is no elevator, promises to work a different location next meetup. I sign the call sheet, give a final wistful look up at the loft and head out into the cold, wet night.

Now I don't blame the host, who was a very cool guy, and my Clark support is unaffected. But I wanted to share this story so that other hosts/meetup organizers here on DU will take site accessibility into consideration when choosing/voting on a meeting site. It's easy to do and, more imprtantly, the right thing to do.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:14 PM
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1. Thanks
This is a sorry tale and sorry it happened to you.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:15 PM
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2. Agreed, there should be some way to let the organizers know
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 10:16 PM by xultar
when selecting a location for a meetup that they will have to pick a place that is accessible to all.


Edit....Welcome to DU!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:16 PM
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3. Bad planning. That sucks.
Maybe next time you'll have better results.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:16 PM
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4. if it was a DU meeting, we would have come down
and carried you up. unless that's passe, i'm pretty ignorant about these things...
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:20 PM
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5. I'm sorry that happened to you...
Hopefully you've been able to raise awareness and help prevent that from happening to someone else.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:23 PM
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6. Yep, that sucks!!! Thank's for the heads up, however...
We had our Clark Meetup in a donut (Krispy Kreme)/coffee shop and had no problem at all. But, we did not have any handicapped guests. I don't think it would have been a problem with this place but your correct this issue has to be given high priority when planning meetups. Glad you made it anyway and thanks for supporting Wes Clark. From a retired Navy Vet down here in Florida....WELCOME ABOARD!

:donut:

P.S. Your right, Coffee shops make great meetup places.
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Diego360 Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:30 PM
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7. Thanks, folks
I've been thinking that Clark should really hammer on the need to preserve the ADA and veteran's benefits. Link it to the wounded/permanently disabled young people returning from Iraq -- would demonstrate who really supports the troops! Plus it'd be fun to stick it to Dubya for undermining his father's best piece of legislation.

PS - Mmmm, Krispy Kreme. Those donuts rule!
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:32 PM
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8. Blame MeetUp.com
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 10:32 PM by mobuto
They make the arrangements with the coffee shops/restauarants/bars etc.

The campaign really has no say over which establishments are included.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:36 PM
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9. Can you nominate a venue online? That's how Deanies do it.
Or just drop them a note and make a suggestion. I'm willing to bet the problem is solved by next month.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:23 AM
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12. They have that for Clark's too.
At least for the area that I'm in-right now there are 3 different venues that get nominated and voted on.
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:50 PM
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10. That really sucks
I kind of know how you feel, but only in a second-hand sense...My youngest daughter is in a wheelchair and she gets excluded from so many things that able-bodied kids get to do because so many places are not wheelchair accessible. She doesn't complain (she really can't) but it makes me sad and angry for her.<sigh>

Sorry that happened to you tonight. I think many people just don't realize or think about the obstacles faced by people with disabilities. Thank you for sharing that story. You should send meetup.com a note and tell them what happened. They should definitely make accessibility a consideration when they choose the venues you get to vote on.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:25 AM
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11. I suspect the push for fast meet up numbers makes organizing difficult.
I'm sorry to hear your story. I do hope the meet up folks learn from it.

Salut!
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:22 AM
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13. This is a shame,
and should not have happened.

I'm quite involved in the Dean meetups, and they've sent out emails asking us to make sure our venues are handicapped accessible. I'm sure the Clark people care every bit as much.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:48 AM
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14. Good information to share; thanks for passing it along...very sorry to
hear that this would happen to anyone...
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