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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:23 PM
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Is Hollywood out of touch, or is the American public out of touch?
Top grossing films of 2005: Star Wars, Harry Potter, Chronicles of Narnia, War of the Worlds, King Kong

Nominees for Best Picture of 2005: Brokeback Mountain, Capote, Crash, Good Night and Good Luck, Munich

So who is "out of touch?" Movie ticket buyers or Academy voters?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:29 PM
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1. The Academy has never liked the same films the public likes
I attribute this to the fact that the Academy contains no members of the general public. It contains movie-industry people...who like this real artsy stuff.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:55 PM
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5. And I keep thinking film is an art...
It's a biz like any other.

Dumbed down and consumed like chocolate covered amphetamines.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:33 PM
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2. Art becomes a commodity.
What an idea! :popcorn:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:56 PM
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6. Commodity means 'lowest common denominator'
Therefore anything that's not "mainstream" enough is shunned; even given a stigma that it's bad.

Why?

Because individuality is not profitable.

The herd and "pied piper" philosophies are.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:46 AM
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12. And also, commodity meaning: $$$=Award worthy.
By the OP's reasoning, McDonald's and Burger King should be considered fine dining. Since when is the almighty dollar a valid indicator of what constitutes "out of touch"? I find the entire premise faulty (as you do, too). :hi:

People can call me a snob if they want but I'm not buying this "out of touch" hypothesis as anything but RW anti-gay spin. I said it and I'll defend it.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:40 PM
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3. Movies that appeal to teenagers (and children, to a certain extent) always
gross higher than movies that appeal to adults. (And sometimes the emphasis is on "gross.")
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:50 PM
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4. Why must you assume that something is, or some people are, out of touch?
Top grossing films and artistic awards are not necessarily connected. Different functions.

Broaden thyself and categorize according to reality, when practicable.

;)
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:03 AM
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7. why would the criteria for "best" and "highest grossing" be the same?
There are lots of awards given to movies in a year -- the Oscars, People's Choice, MTV Movie Awards, SAG & Director's Guilds, Golden Globes... Different awards have different criteria. What's wrong with that?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:05 AM
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8. exactly, the Oscars would go down in my opinion
if they did focus on highest grossing over quality.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:07 AM
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9. Nobody's out of touch. Annie Hall won Best Pic over the original Star Wars
Which do you think had more box office? Who was "out of touch" then?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:07 AM
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10. Is there any reason it can't be both?
And is there any reason to restrict the discussion to movies?
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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:43 AM
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11. action films, Rush Limbaugh, *
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 12:44 AM by HereKittyKitty
I am in the middle of one of the reddest of the red states, in a small hick town, and I have no desire to see any of the top grossing films. Not that there is anything wrong with them, but they just don't have any appeal for me. I have seen Brokeback and Crash (loved both- Crash disturbed the hell out of me) and I want to see every single other one of the nominees.

I am as average as average can be.

It's the American public that is out of touch. But I'm not just judging this based on movies. They voted for *, for God's sake.

The Academy likes art. The public likes explosions.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:46 AM
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13. You've gone too far.
The top grossing films have good qualities, too. You should not avoid them. Just because artistic awards are different from top grossing does not mean that you should not watch the top grossing films. Don't be a snob. :)
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 01:26 AM
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14. It's not snobbery
if someone simply doesn't enjoy a film genre. And I refuse to see a film simply because "everybody's seen it."
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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 04:46 AM
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15. I've always felt
that the Oscars are just bought by the movie companies. The movies that are usually nominated aren't big marketed flicks, So it's just another way for them to get the word out for some of these films, by paying for them to be consider the best flims of the year.
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