Most Heinous fictional character from the Movies

Who was the most heinous villain of all time. The character in question must be fictional (Ie - you can't pick Anthony Hopkin's Richard Nixon).

Me?
I'm thinking, without a doubt it would be Anthony Hopkin's Hannibal Lecter. He LOVED the fact that he was a cannibal

Using your brainwashed son as an assassin to get ultimate power won't exactly make for Mother of the Year status.

Angela Lansbury was amazing in that role, and Meryl Streep did her proud in the remake.

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Sheer terror

I have NEVER been that frightened by a movie.

...Robert Mitchum's rather than Robert DeNiro's, then?

all the pretending about Mitchum's version is just that pretending.

Mitchum WAS Max Cady. His delivery was cooler. His violence was more explosive. His deviance was better defined...

Robert DeNiro was fine, but without Mitchum's Max Cady, Martin Scorcese would never have thought to remake Cape Fear.

DeNiro's was a cartoon.

His Cady radiated extreme menace without having to physically LOOK menacing at all.

scenery-chewing, hackneyed, "Look Ma! I'm acting crazzzzy!" bug-eyed psycho.

for the promised land. I'm bound for
the promise Land.... (Gurgle Gurgle, talking in toungues)

with "LOVE" on one hand, and "HATE" on the other hand? Yeah--he's the one I thought of first as well, if that's the character. I can't remember the movie very well, only that it was Robert Mitchum and there was a lot of rain in it.

from Night of the Hunter.

He was nicer than Max Cady.

I guess I've seen both then, and couldn't remember which was which. :)

They just don't make them like they used to.

Especially when he does the tuck-n-sway. That makes her hot.

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You know ... everytime I watch "Monk" that scene pops into my head. I keep expecting Stottlemeyer to get so frustrated with Monk, that he turns to him and says, "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again." LOL!



(I don't know about the rest of you, but I was half-way through the first season of "Monk" before I realized where I knew Ted Levine from.)

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The preacher from "Night of the Hunter" was a pretty nasty piece of work:


"And a suddenly hate's a winnin', and he's got love on the run..."

That's a real lock-all-the-windows-and-doors kind of film. :scared: I'm just glad I saw it when I was an adult and not during my childhood.

which, while very dark, I could almost understand. He hated rude people, and prized civility. But he helped agent Starling because he saw potential in her.

literally!

tricks against opponents, presents his policies as patriotism, grew up wealthy- and uses that wealth to buy the best "fixers" money can buy...etc, etc. Such a scary thought.. but totally fictional (not).

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Hannibal only killed about a dozen people. Azrael hatched a plan which would wipe out all of reality - instantly killing everyone. Can you get any more heinous than that?

Baby wanna FUCK!

Why is there so much trouble in this world?




"Don't be a good neighbor anymore to her. I'll have to send you a love letter! Straight from my heart, fucker! You know what a love letter is? It's a bullet from a fucking gun, fucker! You recieve a love letter from me, and you're fucked forever! You understand, fuck? I'll send you straight to hell, fucker!... In dreams... I walk with you. In dreams... I talk to you. In dreams, you're mine... all the time. Forever."

oh my god!

Let's see who else....

Peter Lorre's character, Hans Beckert, from "M"

The Wicked Witch of the West

O'Brien from "1984"

Dr. Christian 'The White Angel' Szell from Marathon man - Olivier's Character

Barney the Dinosaur

Sandy Duncan - she makes my skin crawl.......

I had forgotten about him. Yes! A balance of sadism and convincing faux-benevolence only a true psychopath could sustain. And all in the name of "The State", to boot!

I always wonder with O'Brien if he was bred/trained for his position or if he was a "thought criminal" who was caught, studied and determined to be mentally suitable for the job. At one time he tells Winston Smith, "They got me a long time ago." That line perplexes me.


He's not evil at all; he is completely enamoured of the system, to the point that he has abandoned all conventional human morality and developed an absolute "state-mentality".

By the way, considering some of the schlock Burton did in his later years, the brilliant performance as "O'Brien" was a fittingly high-point to go out on. It was his last screen performance.

Burton did O'Brien very well. Hurt was magnificent as Winston Smith too.

I know I've touched on this before, but it needs to be said again.

A character like Lechter can't be truly frightening to any intelligent person, because the writers have given him "super-powers", therefore he is no longer rooted in conventional reality.

To me, anyone who can eviscerate and skin two prison guards, and suspend one as an object d'art complete with theatrical back-lighting in a space of three minutes, or flawlessly castrate a fully-clothed pick-pocket in a crowded street with such skill and precision that the pick-pocket doesn't even notice, isn't any more frightening than The Joker or Lex Luthor.

Oh, he's so evil, he can tell me something so meaningful that I'll cut my own face off or swallow my tongue! Big deal.

As soon as you allow a character to exist beyond the realm of the laws of physics, he's no longer "real". And therefore, no longer a real threat.

Hannibal Lechter might as well waer a cape and top-hat, and twist his handlebar moustache as he cackles insanely.

If you want a heinous villian, I strongly suggest you rent "Spoorloos", aka "The Vanishing" (and not the shitty American version, but the original European production), based on the novel "The Golden Egg", and tell me if that villian isn't the most terrifying character ever written. Why is he so frightening? For one thing, he appears to be just an average schmuck, but is capable of truly sadistic acts. And the other thing that makes him so frightening is that the writers take the time to demonstrate him doing non-evil, even charitable acts. By suggesting that this man isn't "pure evil", and exists in a world of non-absolutes, where good people sometimes do bad things and bad people sometimes do good things, the writers have given him a tangable depthy, and that makes the magnitude of his acts all the more "real". Also, instead of relying on cartoonish, Rube Goldbergesque devices to achieve the most visually satisfying ends to his victims, all theis guy needs is a car and some ether. What's truly frightening is that guys like this actually exist.

Being frightened of Lechter is about on-par with being satisfied with a mouthful of vanilla ice-cream when you could be having your own bucket of Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia.

But, if you want to stick to cartoony super-villains, I'm still not saying Lechter. I think it's (American Psycho's) Patrick Bateman, because his character is relentlessly self-involved and sociopathic.

Couldn't ever watch it again. I made BatBoy time me at rest-stops for about a year after we saw that flick. ;-)

Did I mention I have an intense fear of interment? :scared:

The Dutch version nearly gave me a heart attack! Being buried alive scares the crap out of me!

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In the early sixties, some nut kidnapped a young woman from a wealthy family, and buried her alive in a field with a gallon of water, a flashlight, and a small vent which allowed air to flow to the surface. He asked for a ransom, and his terms were that if he didn't get paid, or if her was caught/killed, the authorities would never find her.

As it happened, a bystander discovered her, quite by chance, and set her free after a few days.

1968...

do a google on Barbara Jane Mackle.

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the whole self obsessed ego maniac hotshot of the 80s, combined with the fact that he is a cold blooded killer who takes joy in killing the less fortunate and still goes about his life and acts like he is better than everyone

and he fucking gets away with it all

i hate that damn movie, and that character

Not only is it a story of characters, it's a story of a society in general.

Bateman is the American ruling class of the eighties; vulgar, idle, increasing wealthy based on speculation and luck, elitism, and sadism.

I think, for me, the turning point isn't where he breaks down and confesses but nobody believes him; I think it's the scene where he goes to a sales open house at one of the parartments he killed in. It's been cmpletely redone and is freshly painted. The realtor figures out how he got there and that he was responsible for the killings, and all she does is ask him to leave. Basically, she ignores his crimes because their being made public will have an adverse effect on her business. Basically, she becomes an accomplice out of greed, but ultimately not because she's a bad person per se, but because she's a product of her environment. And that's what the book is saying.

Lechter is ridiculous and no more frightening than any Batman villain

The evil thing is that she thought she was doing good. ;-)

Was and still is my favorite Disney Villian.

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He was described as "totally heinous" I think about four thousand times.

He's totally Enos!

Closely followed by the sequel in '04.

Really a creepy, evil dude...and Huston was unforgettable playing him...

Chinatown is one of my favorite movies of all time.

If the Bush administration were fictional it would be creepier, but the Bush administration unfortunately is real.

Sir Ian Richardson played him like Richard III (if Richard III had been that scheming and evil, which he probably wasn't!).

He manipulated people and events just so he could get revenge on his Prime Minister, journalists who'd crossed him ... even the King (a well-meaning liberal).

wow

That's what made his character nearly likeable.
Duckie

It's a mini-series, but close enough. This is one dastardly, evil, insidious, cruel character. Scared the shit out of me.

I agree that Blue Duck was a uniquely evil character. I'll spare other DUers a list of his deeds, but a reading of the novel or viewing of the mini-series will tell you enough to disturb your sleep. It bothers me that Larry McMurtry even came up with such a character.

But the other day I realized who Tom DeLay reminded me of. Do you remember Dan Suggs, the particularly vicious murderer Jake Spoon winds up riding with? When Gus, Woodrow, and Josh finally catch up with Suggs and his gang, Dan Suggs is so defiant and hateful that Gus drawls something like, "I must say, Mr. Suggs, you're the type of man it's a pleasure to hang. If you're going to talk guff, go talk it to the devil."

DeLay attacks like a cornered rat as he's going down. If that isn't the spirit of Dan Suggs, I don't know what is.

A defiant bastard to the very end.

I thought of that movie but couldn't remember her name! Oooh. She was the devil on earth.

We used to watch that movie when we were kids, just to scare ourselves. Then we'd go sleep out on someone's porch and stay awake all night because we were petrified!

The Usual Suspects

evil evil evil character



also, don't forget Anne Wilkes from "misery"

I mean come on, she was going to make a coat out of puppies.

This character scares me like no other.

That sledge hammer scene is one of the most disturbing scenes ever! I can feel the pain x(

...from Othello, was about as evil as it gets.

and Kevin Bacon played this awful guard, Sean Nokes, at a kids' detention center. I hated his character so much that I couldn't get to sleep the night I watched the movie. It really haunted me...

Its supposely true but I think Lorenzo Carcantara is full of shit.

I assumed it was fiction. But I don't know...atrocities have been known to occur in many prisons.

but I could remember wrong ...

I mean, Pinhead, come on...






"We have eternity to know your flesh"

"Your suffering will be legendary, even in hell! "

"No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering"

"We have such sights to show you"

I have to give "The Tall Man" from "Phantasm" an honorable mention for sheer creepiness! :scared:

Boy, it's a good thing a greasy bastard like that doesn't exist in the real world...

What? He was... real?

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Although Conrad's original novel makes it a bit clearer, how his idealism changed to hideous cruelty. Particularly unsettling to think that Pol Pot, Hitler, etc., also felt they were doing the right thing! No wonder Bush and the PNACers simply refuse to admit they made a mistake!

That's an interesting supposition, though.

Kurts is certainly the antagonist, but he's not actually evil.

Conrad probably wasn't the first author to come up with a character who wasn't a traditional-type villain, but did terrible things -- and he certainly wasn't the last. (And the man sent to find Kurtz wasn't really a "hero", either.) The reason I pointed out Kurtz is because the story did show how easily well-intentioned people can end up doing monstrous acts. And it tampered with our notion of being able to put the evil all in one identifiable place ("look, there's the villain") -- and distance ourselves from it.

I remember reading an interview with Christopher Lee, a while back -- he'd commented that he enjoyed playing, not just characters who knew they were doing bad things and rejoiced in it, but those who were doing this for a variety of different reasons (and believed the end justified the means, or that they were doing everyone a favor).

...that there's an argument that Marlowe/Willard is the villain, but your reply says all that and more. :hi:

Particularly in the movie, when Willard does terrible things (executes the girl in the sanpan, rescues the Bunnies but only in exchange for sex, conceals critical information from the boat crew, etc)...

Both men are lost, and attempting to find themselves via whatever strengths they have at their disposal.

remind me to never read that book when I'm feeling suicidal

not all that well known but gave me shivers I'll always remember.

John Ryder: Gas stations have cigarettes.
Jim Halsey: What about gas?
John Ryder: I don't need gas.
Jim Halsey: What do you want?
Jim Halsey: What's so funny?
John Ryder: That's what the other guy said.
Jim Halsey: What other guy?
John Ryder: That guy back there, the one we just passed. The guy who picked me up before you did.
Jim Halsey: That was him in there?
John Ryder: Sure it was. He couldn't have walked very far.
Jim Halsey: Why's that?
John Ryder: Because I cut off his legs... and his arms... and his Head. And I'm going to do the same to you.

... the guy convicted of the crime eventually became a doctor, practcing in Iowa? And just last month her was busted in Georgia, in a boat with a million bucks' worth of blow on it. The cops searched his home and found the largest coke operation they'd ever seen.

A close second to me, after Hannibal.