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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:45 PM
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Poll question: Which of these Major league record will be the toughest to break?
Post 1900 (modern era), players only. (*)Cy Young won 511 games, but pitched pretty much every day in a dead-ball era. Young played most of his career pre-1900, only a handfull of seasons in the "modern era". IMHO Walter Johnson's 417 is the record to break.
Listed are the "popular" records that seem to stand out in measure of great players.
My pick is Pete Rose's hits record. That one is so far ahead of any active player at this point in time. Next toughest is Nolan Ryan's 5714 Strikeouts. No other player, past or active, is remotely close.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:47 PM
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1. pitching wins
They used to start every other day back in the old days.
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SethInUpstateNY Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:28 PM
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2. Along the same line.
Pitching losses. Cy Young won 511 games, but also lost 316 games.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:53 PM
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3. I voted for Walter Johnson's 417
But the one I think is even harder is Cal-Ripken's game streak, which wasn't on the poll. Also, Barry Bonds' (sweetest left handed swing ever) 72 homers in a season won't be broken for a long long long time.


taught.
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:01 PM
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4. Nobody is going to break the pitching wins.
Average 25 wins per season for 16 years. Like that's gonna happen.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:05 PM
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5. How about games pitched while under the influence of LSD? Dock Ellis....
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:25 PM
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11. This isn't an easy stat to track...
...but I'm going to guess Bill "Spaceman" Lee has him beat on that one.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:05 PM
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6. Wins
No question. The game has changed so much since those days; even a complete game is now headline-worthy. "Specialty" pitchers are here to stay, and no one's likely to pitch 20 seasons averaging 25 wins per year, either.

Nobody's gonna get within sight of Hoss Radbourne's 60 wins in a season, either. But that was pre-1900.

Second: Bob Gibson's 1.12 ERA in 1968. Superhuman.
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ok_cpu Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:06 PM
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7. I picked pitching wins
but I think the SB record is just as unlikely.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:43 PM
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8. I vote the Strike Out Record . . .
Although I really should've voted Wins record as an after thought.

Furthermore didn't Ryan also have the record for base on balls as well?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:48 PM
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9. another: Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 07:51 PM by fishwax
Pitchers rarely throw complete games anymore, and there are but a handful of active players who have thrown more than one no-hitter.

edited to add: in this poll I voted for pitching wins :)
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:21 PM
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10. I'm gonna say stolen bases.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 08:26 PM by ChoralScholar
Henderson is 468 ahead of the next person (Lou Brock), not to mention, light-years ahead of other active players.

Check this:

1. Rickey Henderson 1406

Active Players (Age) SB:
23. Kenny Lofton* (38) 567
T33.Barry Bonds* (40) 506
46. Eric Young (38) 457
55. Marquis Grissom (38) 429
62. Craig Biggio (39) 407
86. Tom Goodwin* (36) 369
91. Tony Womack* (35) 362
--------------------------------------------------

Not only is no one even CLOSE, no one is even on the way! All the people in the top 100 are either retired or within 3-5 years of retirement.

In order to steal 1406 bases over a 25-year career (long) you have to average over 56. In a 20 year career, you have to steal 70.

Only 3 players have stolen 70+ in the last 15 years. In order to see 100+, you have to go back to Vince Coleman in 1987, and Rickey Henderson in 1983.

I think the record is set for a while.

No one steals bases anymore.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:15 PM
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12. how did I kill THIS thread?
Was my post that stupid, that everyone rolled their eyes and walked away?!?

:)

I provide thread extermination services at a minimal cost.
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