If you had a chance to leave the US would you?

My Culinary Grades at the end of this semester will bring my grades back up and I will be getting out soon. I have had a discussion with several people in charge of my College about getting a Scholarship to the branch in England and they said that they think that I might be able to get it because of my Culinary Skills.
Also, Charlie Trotters has a scholarship for students to continue on and go for a higher degree.

If you had a chance to move to England would you.

For me it would mean a huge change and I might not come back which would be good if Jr steals another election.

And I am over fifty. When I was your age I went to Vietnam (and I am female). I've travelled over the orient and a lot of Europe. I love England. Do NOT let this opportunity pass you by.

I am near your age.

I don't have a family but I do have a Dad and a Sister. I am not attached to anyone in this country so it will be easy to leave and my Dad is showing signs of Alzheimer's.

My only problem are my Cats because I will not part with them.

to take care of mine when I went to Vietnam. But you can get your cats into England. I just don't know how long the "quarantene" time is. I'm sure you could find out easily on the net.

I almost moved to Ireland a few years ago. I couldn't because it would put me too far away from my kids and grandchildren. If you do it now, you won't build up a collection of family, things, and real estate that you can't part with.

because I will be in a crunch when it comes to health care, and Medicare in the not too distant future and I do not like it one bit being at the mercy of the pharma corps-I am trying not to imagine too much at this point, as to what will happen to me- as it is, I am too old to do much now--I love the people of Canada, but I think by now, the people of Canada must hate Americans. :-( If I were younger, I would move to Canada, definately. Canada has shown itself to be far more sane, and far more mature than the United States--unless of course, New England decides to secede. :-) I would leave, if I were you, in a nanosecond.

I think lots of Canadians poke fun at American stereotypes, but it would take much more than that for us to hate you...

Of course, there are some regional and economic issues which can work us up, but hate's a pretty strong word!

Of course, it's fair to say that many, many Canadians hate the shaved chimp who's dragging us all down with him.

But I don't think Canada has an exclusive arrangement in hating Bush. }(

legally, I can get dual citizenship with another country, and I have been looking into taking a powder for a while.

Ireland or Scotland can you get a dual citizenship?

yes.
Expect weird letters from the state department.

I have to find out how long my Cats would have to stay in quarantine.

I wanted to teach at the College and I know that I can later on down the line but I was to leave and start a new life.

to see what the law is. It has been years since I first applied.

So, look into it first, and see what is and is not allowed, what it would do to your American citizenship, if you care, etc.

Good luck.

...you're originating in a non-Commonwealth nation.

Maybe you were a little hasty dumping all that tea into Boston
Harbo(u)r, eh?

Mrs. Amok and I are both dual Canadian/EU passport holders, and we can live/work anywhere in the EU because I was born in the UK.

That said, we're still sitting on our butts not doing anything exciting--what's with us?!

Maybe you were a little hasty dumping all that tea into Boston
Harbo(u)r, eh?>>>

lol, but, I am white but neither anglo-saxon, nor protestant. my ancestors were actually being tortured by the brits at that time in another country, so they were not dumping tea into anything but a teacup.

LC

... international chefs are encouraged to move there to improve the food usually in the hotel and tourist areas. Indian, Chinese and newly emerging Mexican eateries are some of the popular places. However, allot of the natives still prefer their foods over-cooked and frequently bland.

Myself, I'm saving up for a pub in Ireland. Preferrably located in Galway or Kerry.

I have never been to Ireland but I have lived in England when I was a kid and I felt at home.

I had to do it. I just had to.

on edit: My ancestral home is Limerick.

:kick:

..and it will taste better, too.

make sure you go to Belgium for frites met mayonaise...a heart attack in a paper cone.

Why oh why haven't I visited her in a while? :D

Some truth there but a little unfair, I'd say. We've come a long way since 'an English meal' consisted of a slab of dead animal with a couple of over-boiled vegetables on the side. We're a multi-cultural country now and the variety of great food here is huge.
I have to say that when I was in the States with my family the impression we got eating out was that you could have enormous amounts of anything so long as it was stodgy, fatty or dull.

The Brits attempted to conquer the world, not for gain , but simply in search of a good meal.

If you've ever eaten traditional English fare, you likely agree with that opinion.

On topic: I see many who are ready to "jump ship". How many of you who are willing to do so have truly experienced other countries as anything other than a tourist? You may find the reality far different from the travelogues provided by both professionals and amateurs.

I recommend a prolonged visit, say 60 days to start, then extend to a year if it still appeals. If you're still happy with your choice, then by all means stay.

I couldn't help but notice that some of the comments hint rather obviously that the current administration is a prime motivator. Yup, that's how to get things changed: run away from the good fight.

Some may remember that I intend to retire abroad within the next year or so. I did my homework. I intend to maintain my citizenship. I shall vote via absentee ballot in every election.

I prefer it over the slop served in this country!

But move back to England? Never....not me! Talk about a striated society! Perhaps it's changed a bit in the last 15 years?

I'd consider New Zealand or Canada though.

I am not an anti-American American, but until power is put back into the hands of someone who knows how to use it properly and presidentailly, yeah...if I had the chance to expatirate until the storm passes, I would...

My grandfather had the common sense to leave Europe (we're Jewish) in 1938 because he saw what was happening...why would I not do the same? It saved his life, and ultimately my own.

Never pass up a chance like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't when I had the chance (do to family guilt trips) and I've always regretted it. Go,Go,Go you will love England. An added plus is that everybody there hates shrub...found that out on my last visit!

I loved it then and I will love it again.

count yourself lucky.. and be sure to get an absentee ballot.

That sounds like an opportunity of a lifetime. Doesn't mean you could never come back.

I've thought long and hard about it during the last couple of years. The political atmosphere in the U.S. a year ago was very oppressive. I had my eye on Costa Rica as a possible place to bug out to.

But...things are looking up now, I'm seeing a lot of liberal/Democratic momentum, and I think we really have a good chance of taking back this country. If B*s* wins in 2004 though, and we see a real move toward fascism in this country, I'm getting out while I can. If the liberal momentum continues and we don't see anything resembling fascism, I'm staying and doing whatever I can to take back the country.

The problem is getting settled into a new country, earning a livelihood, cultural barriers, possible language barriers, etc. For me unless I had an overseas job offer, it would be a last worst case scenario, something I'd do only if the Bush regime started rounding up liberals, peace activists, and other "dissidents."

Job or school opportunity in England though? Heck yes, go for it.

I love the US, but if the US is seeking world dominance, leaving it for elsewhere would make no sense!

We need to stay and keep our votes going to the right people, even if the worst happens.

Leaving the US is just the same as not voting or voting for a 3rd party (you know, the choice which is just like voting for the republican instead...)

Also, given how the world hates us, you'll be hated by some too. Remember, in England, you're still a Yank. And if they're not fond of Tony Blair, they're even less fond of the US, Bush ,and those who support him. You might be seen as a coward or worse for leaving. But I digress, this is all conjecture and I wanted to leave the US at one point as well...

The choice is yours.

Don't take this post personally or think I'm attacking you. I'm not. I actually sympathize because there's been many a time I've wanted to leave... that's why I'm torn. It's like a nightmare that can't be awoken from and that extends.

If you don't have anything here to stay for and you don't have anything there and Jr steals another election would you want to stay here another 4 years?

It's so dreary here in Chicago at times. It's the same old routine over and over again and you get tired of it.

I'd say that leaving one's country for a few years is a very worthwhile endeavor. As one can still vote from abroad, there is no harm done.
However: I'd love to move to the US for one or two years - as to almost any other developed nation (I'd like the US best). Such a move should IMHO have no political background - and shouldn't be considered political, but educational.

and I do enjoy being here. However, there are some things about the US I miss. I'm glad I'm not too far away. I still don't know if I'm going to be in Canada permanently, but I am enjoying my time here. It is interesting to get a different perspective on American politics.

One thing I don't understand, though. I live in Vancouver. There are several private clinics where you can get MRIs, etc. and pay. Now, the province is planning (as I understand it) to get rid of the private clinics. I don't like losing a choice. I'm very pro-choice oriented. I like options. This is the one thing that bothers me.

My advice to you. If you can, live outside of the US for awhile. It would be good for you and a wonderful opportunity.

:hi: :toast: :donut:

So, that's HEyHEY, Lisa, me and cjm2222 in lower BC... Maybe we could have that Canadian (and guest) DU get-together we're always yappin' about!

A Canadian DU get together? Hmmm, could be fun. I'm in Vancouver.

Nice to have you!

I would live in Alberta near Jasper National Park.

I keep dreaming of visiting the home of my ancestors. I'd love to go with the kids, but I wish they were older and easier to handle for a trip like this.

Especially if it was somewhere where I hadn't been before. Hell, after '04 I might even consider Naru.

I probably would.

My whole family lives in Hawaii and my father and I are moving back next summer. I CAN'T WAIT!!! First thing I'm going to do is get a prescription for Mary Jane.....I have open angle glaucoma......:D

I'd also like to goto Canada.....for reasons purely involved with medical mary jane.....

maybe if I got offered a scholarship to study geology in Italy, I'd move there in a heartbeat.

I regret passing up a chance to move to Japan in 1994 and a chance to move to Australia in 1987.

If someone offered me a job in Japan or Europe or Australia/New Zealand, I'd be mighty tempted to go. The main obstacle is that my mother and stepfather are both ailing, and my brothers and I are looking at finding them some sort of assisted living environment. I wouldn't feel right about flaking out now.

The US has everything.. every group of ppl, every kind of foods, any kind of clubs, eerything of anything AND we live in a country where the tax is low and stuff is cheap.

I have travelled all over and never found a place as great as the US

Four more years of Dumbya, and/or the federal "marriage" amendment's passage, may be enough to drive us across the northern border. I hope not. But: "Live free or die." I'll live free where I can, because I'll be damned if I'll die a second-class citizen.