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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 06:40 AM
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Do you live in a place where people say hello to strangers?
Or in a place where people avoid all acknowledgment of each other?

Which do you prefer?
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:08 AM
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1. We nod hello to strangers here.

I've lived where I was invisible walking down the street, it got a little lonely.

I had a pleasant conversation with a total stranger in the ice cream isle yesterday and it really felt good.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:15 AM
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5. People avoid each other here.
Sometimes I like that, and other times I don't.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:31 AM
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13. Normally I don't want to have conversations with strangers.

It is just way too weird.



But the Ben & Jerry's was on sale. I was buying about 10 pints so I was concentrating on just the right ones.

She said she was going to be home alone for the night and although she doesn't usually eat she was looking for something very chocolaty. It's nice when you're not afraid of telling a stranger that you'll be home alone.
I suggested my favorite.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:48 AM
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19. Ben & Jerry's. MMmmmm.
This one is my favorite:


I do wish I could be more extroverted sometimes. It can be lonely this way.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:43 AM
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24. A pint of Phish Food is in the freezer now.

Unless Jon ate it at 2 AM. :) It's a nice surprise for everyone when there's a sale.


I really am very shy until I get to know someone but I'm pushing myself out into the world because I know I'm missing too much of life. I wouldn't be heading west if I didn't have DU friends to visit. All of my bags might be unpacked before Thanksgiving. :)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:54 AM
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26. How do you push past the shyness, though?
I can never seem to figure that out. I do just fine on DU where I'm anonymous, but in the real world it can just be painful at times.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:14 PM
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52. There is a riddle: How long will a dog sit on a tack?
Edited on Sun May-14-06 12:15 PM by Joan_Alpern
The answer: Until it becomes too painful.

The only way to push_past_the_shyness is to just do_it.


I agree with you, it's often painful reaching out when you're shy. The only answer I can honestly offer you is that sometimes it's more painful to be alone than to take the risk of meeting someone new. No matter what happens you will still be who and what you are. and We will still be here for you to chat with.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:08 AM
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2. Sometimes we do that
but not usually.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:10 AM
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3. me too
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:16 AM
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6. Do what, say hello to strangers?
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:32 AM
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15. Right.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:34 AM
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16. Do you like it that way, or would you prefer more closeness?
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:35 AM
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17. Myself, I prefer greater familiarity
Towns and cities are very lonely places.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:40 AM
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18. There's the word I was looking for -- familiarity. It kept escaping me.
Mine seems lonely now, but it didn't before.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:14 AM
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4. Yes, it's sort of expected here.
To not say, "Buon giorno," would be considered rude. But to say, "Ciao!" to a stranger or an older person is also considered rude. I learned that the hard way. If you say, "Ciao!" to enough people who reply, "Buon giorno," you get the mesage eventually. :blush:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:17 AM
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7. Awww.
:hug:

What does "buon giorno" mean? Good day?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:19 AM
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9. Yep!
And after 5 p.m., you're supposed to say, "Buona sera." ("Good evening.") Needless to say, I had a _lot_ to learn. "Hi!" is sort of a 24/7 greeting. :rofl:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:21 AM
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10. I imagine you did.
:D
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:09 AM
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45. I believe so
Just like Bon Jour in French of Buenas Dias (sp) in Spanish.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:18 AM
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8. I like both. I'm in a place where people avoid each other, but we
have a lake house in Alabama, which must be the friendliest place I've ever been.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:22 AM
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11. I like both, too, depending on my mood.
Where my parents live people say hello to everyone. It can actually be disconcerting at times. :D
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:30 AM
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12. Yes.
In the village most people say good morning to most other people when passing.

I much prefer it - life becomes so impersonal without it.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:32 AM
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14. I've always lived in big-ish towns or cities where people
avoid unnecessary contact. Because of that I think I've grown to prefer anonymity.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:48 AM
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20. Most people avoid each other...
I suppose it's okay for others to dispense with the common courtesies; it only reinforces how degenerated society is becoming.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:50 AM
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22. Now that is true, and disturbing.
:(
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:49 AM
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21. new york city.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:51 AM
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23. Ah yes.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:52 AM
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25. we nod in acknowledgment of each other...
and when driving on lonely country roads we raise the index finger off the steering wheel as we go past each other...that way we still keep both hands on the wheel in the curves
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:55 AM
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27. Do you prefer it that way?
Or would you rather have something more familiar, or more anonymous?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:03 AM
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29. I think I like it just the way it is...it is comforting without being an
invasion of privacy. We know each other is there if needed but, as it appears that everything is okay we can just go on about our way.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:11 AM
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30. That does sound nice.
It's not often you can find a happy medium like that.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:58 AM
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28. In my neighborhood, we all wave to each other.
Once you get outside the neighborhood, not so much.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:12 AM
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31. Is it a suburban type neighborhood?
Edited on Sun May-14-06 09:12 AM by mutley_r_us
I've noticed that it can be that way in the suburbs.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:42 AM
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38. Hm, define "suburb"
We're less than five miles from the metro center, and still in the city, so not really a "burb," but it's a neighborhood with yard type of place, not "urban" landscape proper.

We all see each other out in the yard gardening, lol. :D
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:30 AM
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32. Most everyone says hello
and strangers will stop you in the grocery store to talk about organic soy yogurt. :hi:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:31 AM
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34. That never happens here.
:hi:

Well, it does sometimes when you run into a particularly friendly person.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:41 AM
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37. Hmmm
Maybe it's just the early morning grocery shopping crowd?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:45 AM
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42. Maybe, I shop in the afternoon.
:D
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:30 AM
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33. I live in a suburban town just northwest of Atlanta
People here are fairly friendly. I guess it's the Southern hospitality.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:32 AM
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35. Yes, we Yanks are just rude.
:P
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:40 AM
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36. DC Suburbs, Northern Montgomery County
we avoid acknowledgement partially because there are so many cultures represented around here, everybody is a little uncomfortable because you don't really know what is and isn't traditional. We really do not have a common reference, even the white folks are from all over the place.....

I've lived in parts of the South where cultural norms have been formed over decades so there are rules for acknowledging strangers that most of the strangers understand and I have participated.

I prefer living in places where the cultural norms are constantly in flux - you may think folks are rude, but they're probably just being respectful.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:42 AM
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40. I'm familiar with the area, and I know what you mean.
It is quite similar in Baltimore.
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:42 AM
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39. I live in a historic, small, mining town in the Rockies
Everyone waves to everyone, says hello, etc. We get a lot of cyclists up here and tourists wanting to see the quaint mountain towns. It's really nice, and a big change of pace from the large cities I've lived in. Went riding on a mountain bike trail yesterday and every cyclist we met said hello.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:43 AM
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41. How do you get used to it after living in cities for so long?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:54 AM
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43. when we get a chance, we say "hello" to strangers
We're in a residential neighborhood in small town Connecticut. People are fairly friendly, but folks don't go out of their way to be friendly... everybody waves when they drive by, or whatnot.

My wife & I aren't home enough to get out & meet all the neighbors, though.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:58 AM
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44. Do you wish you could meet the neighbors, or like it better as it is?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:18 AM
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46. Actually, people are quite friendly so far in my block....
there's only about 10 seperate suites in my block, but the people who I've run into in the halls, on the way to the laundry room, etc, have all smiled and said hello to me.

it's refreshing. :)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:44 AM
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47. Not really
Every once in a while, I run into a friendly person, usually elderly, who talks to people. For the most part, though, I feel anonymous. It is a fairly small town, but I am an outsider. Most people have lived here or within a a 30 mile radius their entire lives.
I have anxiety problems so it is probably better that way, but I'd sort of like to be part of a community.
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:47 AM
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48. in Toronto
NO they don't. In fact I had to learn to stop smiling when I walk around town because guys thought I was flirting with them. No one in California ever thought I was trying to get picked up when I would just generally smile. Let alone saying hello to people, gawd forbid.

I do smile at old people and small children though.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:52 AM
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49. Mixed, I think.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:54 AM
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50. People are friendly to strangers here.
I think it goes somewhat with being a tourist destination.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:55 AM
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51. 1st time I went to a place where people were friendly, I was scared
I thought they wanted something. That's what happens when your city is full of de-institutionalized schizophrenics...

But contrary to all popular opinion, people in Philadelphia do talk to one another all the time - you just have to be in a situation where people know you're not crazy/scamming them. People at the ballpark get into conversations, or people in stores. I always chat with other people in the elevator of our building, even though I don't know or recognize any of them (big building - 26 floors - each a different company or companies)
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:35 PM
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53. When i'm in nyc VS boston
NYC: I like that people leave each other alone. So does my bf.

Sometimes, if we're in central park and playing catch, we'll run into some cool people and we'll talk. But I'm not real big on talking to strangers out of formalities; if something catches my eye, I'll bring it up and have a good conversation.

In Boston, people just plain won't make eye contact. Honestly, it doesn't bother me. I'm too much of an urbanite.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:56 PM
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54. Large cities are cold that way.
There are so many people you're forced to ignore most that you pass by. I like how friendly small towns are where the old guys always wave, even if you've never been to town before.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:57 PM
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55. small towns creep me out actually
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:58 PM
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56. you freak
;)
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:03 PM
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57. I acknowledge everyone
Its an old E.S.T. thing..

Of course in the country here(Iowa) I wave at everybody in the passing cars and they usually wave back.. But not in other states though, very strange..
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:19 PM
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58. We wave at people who live in the neighborhood
but not people cutting through. Yeah, it's suburban.

I prefer medium-sized cities, where I can ignore people I am just passing by, but where it's not so socially cold and distant that it would be strange to talk to someone waiting in line at the coffee shop. That's the dotted line down the center of my comfort zone.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:58 PM
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59. Yes & I like it that way
I find strangers often speak to each other here. Not a long conservation but a friendly hello or good morning is common. Some people in line at a store will carry on a conversation with strangers. In fact we can usually recognize the out of area people because they look at us like we are freaks when we do it. :rofl:

If you're on a country road, almost every driver will nod their head or wave in greeting. My relatives from the east once remarked that I sure knew a lot of people, everyone we passed on the road had waved at me. When in town we will wave a thank you to drivers who let us in traffic when exiting parking lots.

I know a lot of people here bash Oklahoma but I find Okies to be genuinely friendly, for the most part. I wouldn't want to live in a place where strangers ignored each other. It would seem so cold to me.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:09 PM
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60. Yup -- they wave at you when you drive by
It freaked me out at first, but I really like it now.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:18 PM
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61. Usually a polite hello or the "nod and smile" will do
"Minnesota Nice" in action.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:19 PM
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62. Yes
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:23 PM
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63. Sometimes
the street that I live on...very few people know their neighbours...or even acknowledge them. :(

Sometimes in grocery store lineups, in parks, etc people will talk to each other. It's a mixed bag, and it all depends who you bump into. I talk to strangers, store clerks, etc.

But in a city this size, almost everyone is a stranger...
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:11 PM
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64. We wave at people in cars coming in the opposite lane
Seriously.

One of the reasons I don't really want to leave the South, despite all the bubbas. :)

I have real conversations with total strangers at least three times a day.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:27 PM
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65. It is very interesting to see the different ways we all live.
Thanks everyone. :hi:
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:30 PM
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66. Harrison is a very friendly place.
It's nothing unusual to speak to people you don't know here.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:46 PM
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67. Not really, beyond my neighborhood
Edited on Sun May-14-06 04:47 PM by mvd
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:49 PM
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68. Yes, and I like it better
We were still living in FL when we came here to visit. Mr 'pede had never been here before. I went into a store while hubby, who was still smoking at the time and is originally from Queens, stayed outside for a cig break. He said a cowboy (well a guy with a cowboy hat and boots) came out, tipped his hat and said "afternoon, sir." When I came out hubby told me about it and said he'd like to had a heart attack.
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